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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: "Catholic Grifters"
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2024, 03:37:39 PM »
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  • That's a good list right there. I still believe Fellay is under the control of the Rothschilds.

    I would not doubt it.  Krah has always been very suspicious, and I find it equally suspicious that +Felly so egregiously shuffled around child predators (putting them into positions to predate even more), thereby becoming an accomplice in their crimes, despite lessons that should have been learned from the NO disaster, making me wonder if someone somewhere doesn't have some "dirt" on +Fellay.  It is my understanding that +Fellay was not on the original list of bishops to be consecrated by +Lefebvre, but then a wealthy/influential Swiss family somehow persuaded +Lefebvre to consecrate him.

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #16 on: February 16, 2024, 05:50:14 PM »
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  • The Dimonds basically invented the trad grift. And I think they're still the best at it. Part of the proof of their success is that no one really thinks of them as grifters. A grifter that everyone knows is a grifter isn't a very good grifter. The key to a successful grift is to pass it off as genuine.  But if you open the hood, you'll see that they're extraordinarily skilled marketers. 
    The Dimonds literally sent me pamphlets and dvds I never asked for and paid for the shipping ($40 usd) all because I bought 1 book on Padre Pio. Grifters do not 'waste' money like this.


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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #17 on: February 16, 2024, 05:52:52 PM »
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  • If you're still on youtube, you aint telling 100 percent of the truth.

    If you tell the truth, you get axed. My opinion.
    To be fair the Dimonds upload their more controversial videos to their own site.

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #18 on: February 16, 2024, 10:40:17 PM »
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  • Beyond Taylor Marshall and Michael Matt I would add Michael Lofton and Trent Horn although I don't think they make a full living off of their brands of apologetics I'm pretty sure they are making something from it and it has to be some revenue stream for them.  

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #19 on: February 17, 2024, 07:09:29 AM »
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  • Beyond Taylor Marshall and Michael Matt I would add Michael Lofton and Trent Horn although I don't think they make a full living off of their brands of apologetics I'm pretty sure they are making something from it and it has to be some revenue stream for them. 
    I would not count Michael Lofton and Trent Horn as being in any way traditionists. If we open up gifter didcussion to include Conciliarist conservatives, the list of gifters would increase exponentially.
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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #20 on: February 17, 2024, 07:27:27 AM »
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  • I would not count Michael Lofton and Trent Horn as being in any way traditionists. If we open up gifter didcussion to include Conciliarist conservatives, the list of gifters would increase exponentially.
    Agreed.  Do these guys even "identify" as Trad?  Aren't they just "popesplainers"?

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #22 on: February 17, 2024, 08:58:48 AM »
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  • The Dimonds literally sent me pamphlets and dvds I never asked for and paid for the shipping ($40 usd) all because I bought 1 book on Padre Pio. Grifters do not 'waste' money like this.

    I had the same experience.  I ordered a DVD for like $5 some years ago and they sent me like 4-5 additional things with it, and the $5 barely covered the postage.  People may not agree with them but they are NOT grifters.


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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #23 on: February 17, 2024, 09:00:56 AM »
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  • To be fair the Dimonds upload their more controversial videos to their own site.

    There are some topics you can't mention or your video will get pulled from Youtube ... Jews, sodomy, the jab.  You'll even see Taylor Marshall self-censoring and not using certain words.  But most of the topics deal with by the Dimonds are theological in nature, EENS, papal teaching, charismatics, evolution, etc.  Those types of things the censors don't even understand and are not on their agenda to deal with.  They consider the Dimonds to be engaged in in-fighting with other Catholics, and so don't really care.

    You'll see videos by Father Jenkins, Bishop Sanborn, et al. on Youtube.  What they discuss are way above the heads of the censors.

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #24 on: February 17, 2024, 09:50:08 AM »
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  • Taylor Marshall charges $27 for a 2024 Calendar that Traditional groups put out (similar quality) for $10-$12.  Dimonds just put a PDF up on their site for people to download.

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #25 on: February 17, 2024, 10:41:23 AM »
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  • Taylor Marshall has to be the ultimate grifter. The Pachamama statues being thrown in the Tiber was financed and orchestrated by him. 

    Then there is his fake presidential run. 

    Everything he does is about marketing. He flirts with sedevacantism on Twitter to get his followers all worked up, then he blocks sedevacntists because he doesn't want his followers to actually hear any of their arguments.

    He's just a slimeball. 

    REVELATION: Dr. Taylor Marshall, ABM, is short - (akacatholic.com)


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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #26 on: February 17, 2024, 10:54:18 AM »
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  • Everything he does is about marketing.

    Agreed.  In even a short 30-minute Youtube that he might put out, if you played a drinking game every time he plugged one of his books, his calendar, or anything else he sells, you'd pass out drunk.  Sometimes he keeps the book cover up in the corner next to his head for the entire video.

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #27 on: February 17, 2024, 01:27:04 PM »
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  • REVELATION: Dr. Taylor Marshall, ABM, is short
    [color=var(--superb-pixels-foreground)]Louie, [color=var(--superb-pixels-foreground)]April 1, 2020[/color][/font][/size][/color]
    [color=var(--superb-pixels-foreground)]Screen Shot 2020-04-01 at 12.44.34 PM[/iurl]Dr. Taylor Marshall, charter member of Trad, Inc., isn’t the slimiest of that lot – a distinction that belongs to any who would deliberately play both sides of important issues in order to maximize personal income – but he’s certainly not a straight shootin’, truth tellin’ choir boy rendering selfless service to the Church either.[/size]
    His apparent motto and field of expertise? ABM: Always Be Marketing.
    As reported by LifeSite News, another charter member of the aforementioned mockingbird media movement, Marshall recently revealed that he was secretly in cahoots with Alexander Tschugguel, the celebrated Pachamama-slayer-turned-prophet:
    Dr. Taylor Marshall revealed in a March 27 interview with Alexander Tschugguel, the young Austrian man who removed the pagan idols from the church and threw them into the Tiber, his role in the story for the first time. Marshall not only helped plan the purge, but he provided funds to see it accomplished (see comments beginning at 106:41 [color=var(--superb-pixels-foreground)]here[/color][/b][/u]).[/size]
    Do click on the link provided. What you’ll see, if you can stomach it, is great theater. Otherwise, just follow the transcript below:
    Marshall: Everyone knows you as the guy who threw the Pachamama idols in the river and we, we thank you again for doing that, that was a great, a great moment of a victory and joy. [Nota Bene: At this point in the interview, Marshall’s stuttering mention of the Pachamama drowning comes out of left field; it’s well out of context with the banter that preceded it.]
    Tschugguel: Isn’t now the time to, to tell people a little bit about, about how we were in contact?
    Marshall: [With sheepish grin appearing even as Tschugguel is speaking] I guess perhaps we can, uh, uh, I wasn’t prepared for that, but yeah…
    Marshall then proceeded to come clean, revealing for the first time that he played an integral role in the drowning of those hideous idols. The real story here, however, is that Taylor Marshall has outed himself as a self-promoting phony.
    For months on end now he has been putting on an act with regard to the Pachamama drowning event, behaving as if he, like everyone else, initially had no idea who performed that surprising but welcome act.
    He joined his voice to others wondering (pretending to wonder, that is) if the hero’s identity would ever be made known, but only after taking pains to make certain that everyone knew that it was he who broke the story first (more on that in a moment).
    And when at last Alexander Tschugguel stepped into the limelight (another orchestrated event) and right onto Tayler Marshall’s stage, and on the very same day he went public, the latter was pleased to let viewers believe that his was the go-to outlet among many that Tschugguel just happened to grace with an interview.
    Knowing what we know now, the opening of that interview ([color=var(--superb-pixels-foreground)]HERE[/color][/b][/u]) is disgusting:[/size]
    Marshall: I’m here with Alexander Tschugguel. Did I say that correctly Alexander? … Alexander welcome today, thanks for coming on with me.
    Tschugguel: Thank you very much Taylor, for inviting me. I’m very glad we can talk about it in a very nice way.
    Yes, nice and phony. It’s obvious already that Tschugguel, for his part, is cut from the same cloth as Marshall, but we’ll come back to that later as well.
    Now, we are being asked in this latest video to believe that Marshall, out of nowhere, just happened to interject the Pachamama incident into the conversation, and Tschugguel took Marshall utterly by surprise in calling him out, thus moving his humble host to reluctantly fess up to his role in the affair, even though he wasn’t prepared to do so.
    If you believe that, you probably also believe that Coronavirus began when some hungry Chinaman decided to snack on a bat.
    In telling of his role in the great Pacha-heist, Marshall recounts:
    You [Tschugguel ] worked out your plan with your friend and I wired you some money for airfare, and you guys flew from Vienna over to Rome, and you got it done. A wonderful thing!
    This part of the story includes a little zinger presumably intended to excite the wallets of TM’s starry-eyed groupies; the underlying hint is clear: Do you people have any idea how much round trip airfare from Vienna to Rome costs? Well, multiply it by two! As you can imagine, it set me back a pretty penny!  
    No doubt, given that we live in a day and age when the expectation of integrity has no place in our cult of personality society, even among otherwise sober-minded Catholics, I have little doubt that many of Marshall’s adoring fans will defend his blatant dishonesty.
    Even so, it seems plain enough to me that from day one, this entire thing has been a set-up and, ultimately, one big marketing effort.
    If you’re not sufficiently disturbed already, go back and watch Taylor Marshal “break” the Pachamama in the Tiber story in the wee hours of Oct 21, 2019. What you’ll see is a man who is well at ease with deception.
    “I salute these men as heroes… pray for these, these heroes. We salute them,” he says.
    In hindsight, it now seems rather plain that Marshall considers himself one of the story’s heroes. At several points in the 22-minute video, Marshall emphasizes that it’s very early in the morning in the States; i.e., he literally had to crawl out of bed to break the big news:
    “It’s very early in the morning it’s the middle of the night here in Texas because this just happened in Rome … [it’s] early in the morning in Rome, that’s why it’s dark right here in Texas, it’s late … It’s very early in the morning as you can tell. I haven’t even shaved, combed my hair or anything … My challenge before I turn off and go back to bed…”
    The marketing message here is equally as clear: Don’t forget, you heard it here first! Look at how singularly connected I am to events unfolding in Rome! See how hard I work for you, Mr. and Mrs. Donor, even going so far as to disrupt my slumber so you can stay informed?
    There are, I suppose, plenty of Mr. and Mrs. Donors out there who are so desperate for a hero with “inside info” that they will continue to reward Taylor Marshall, in spite of the now indisputable fact that he evidently takes them for fools.
    Speaking of the irrational need that some persons have for a hero, let’s talk about Trad, Inc.’s newest celebrity, Alexander Tschugguel, shall we.
    As reported by LifeSite News:
    “Regarding his own miserable weeks with coronavirus, Tschugguel revealed that after serious prayer and reflection and reception of the sacraments from a brave Catholic priest, he discerned why in particular he had been chosen to suffer. However, he also explained that he is yet not ready to reveal the reason.”
    Evidently, Tschugguel has learned well at the knee of the marketing guru, Marshall, laboring to create a sense of anticipation among the mindless masses, faithful followers whom he hopes will be eagerly awaiting the great day of revealing when the prophet Alexander will at long last let the world know why he in particular, among all of the laborers in the vineyard of the Lord, had been chosen to suffer!
    You can’t make this kind of melodramatic narcissism up!
    As mentioned, it seems that Marshall and Tschugguel are cut from the same cloth, and a narcissistic cloth it is indeed.
    The photo below (and also at the top of this post) is the screen shot that Taylor Marshall chose for a [color=var(--superb-pixels-foreground)]video[/color] that he made and posted on YouTube of Tschugguel giving a speech in Texas back in November.[/size]
    [color=var(--superb-pixels-foreground)]Screen Shot 2020-04-01 at 12.44.34 PM[/color][/size]
    Get this… the first thing that Taylor Marshall writes (annoyingly referring to himself in the third person) in the video’s description is the following:
    “Height reference: Alexander is 6’8″. Taylor is 5’11”.”
    Yes, because God forbid anyone might get the wrong impression and mistakenly conclude that Taylor Marshall is short!
    Well, now we know; the man is exceedingly short, on integrity, that is, and either it matters in the world of Catholic media, or it doesn’t.[/font][/size][/color]
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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #28 on: February 17, 2024, 01:33:32 PM »
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  • Yeah, Marshall definitely is a grifter. After seeing a few of his early episodes, my intuition told me he was a fraud. I remember Marshall slandering E Michael Jones by saying that Jones called Mother Angelica a lesbian when Jones never did. Surprisingly, he had so many followers at the Neo-SSPX chapel. I used to go to. I guess I should not be surprised by now. 

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    Re: "Catholic Grifters"
    « Reply #29 on: February 17, 2024, 01:36:26 PM »
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  • Taylor Marshall has to be the ultimate grifter. The Pachamama statues being thrown in the Tiber was financed and orchestrated by him.

    Then there is his fake presidential run.

    Everything he does is about marketing. He flirts with sedevacantism on Twitter to get his followers all worked up, then he blocks sedevacntists because he doesn't want his followers to actually hear any of their arguments.

    He's just a slimeball.

    REVELATION: Dr. Taylor Marshall, ABM, is short - (akacatholic.com)

    Sums up my opinion of him. Yes, I think he gets the "Ultimate Trad Grifter" award.
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