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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: TheRealMcCoy on January 03, 2016, 04:39:12 AM

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on January 03, 2016, 04:39:12 AM

Anyone ever been "blessed" by lay people?  This is a common practice in Novus Ordo churches.  Mostly women do it.  Back in my NO days I was frequently "blessed" by women without my permission.  By "blessed" I mean raising of the right hand and performing a "benediction" and making the sign of the cross over the target before they could protest.

Curious if anyone else has suffered this stupid indignity.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: LaramieHirsch on January 03, 2016, 04:47:59 AM

I do know that parents have the authority to bless their children, and that kings had authority to bless citizens.  

But this new feminism blessing thing you're talking about?  Sounds new to me.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: poche on January 03, 2016, 05:16:49 AM

I have seen parents and those who take the place of parents bless the bride and groom before a wedding.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on January 03, 2016, 05:35:56 AM

Let me be more specific.  Being "blessed" by total strangers when a priest is present during Mass.  

I'm NOT talking about family.  I'm referring to females you do not even know "blessing" other lay people when actual ministers are present.  What blessing do they impart? Why are they raising their hand?  What about when they lay hands on you?  What power do they have?  Are they ordained?  

Thanks.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: OHCA on January 03, 2016, 05:37:09 AM

I don't recollect that specific one but it doesn't shock me coming from conciliardom.  My favorite was during the bastardized "mass" the girls and limp-wrist dudes who would mimic all of the prietender's hand gestures.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: 2Vermont on January 03, 2016, 06:52:17 AM

It seems appropriate to post this which I found for another friend on the pre-Vatican II teaching on the Priestly Power to Bless.  It appears there is a clear distinction between laity type blessings and those of the priesthood.  However, I wonder whether the NO laity that perform them really believe that.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7702

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: TKGS on January 03, 2016, 11:49:49 AM

It's not happened to me, personally, but I have seen women "Eucharistic ministers" bless people, usually with a host in their hand.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: Miseremini on January 03, 2016, 11:53:56 AM

Quote from: TKGS

It's not happened to me, personally, but I have seen women "Eucharistic ministers" bless people, usually with a host in their hand.

I think you meant "Extraordinary ministers"
Only a priest is an Eucharistic Minister.
It's so easy to slip into liberal Novus Ordo language.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: Capt McQuigg on January 03, 2016, 08:52:25 PM

Quote from: TheRealMcCoy

Let me be more specific.  Being "blessed" by total strangers when a priest is present during Mass.  

I'm NOT talking about family.  I'm referring to females you do not even know "blessing" other lay people when actual ministers are present.  What blessing do they impart? Why are they raising their hand?  What about when they lay hands on you?  What power do they have?  Are they ordained?  

Thanks.

Standard practice in the novus ordo.  

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: Capt McQuigg on January 03, 2016, 08:53:54 PM

Quote from: Miseremini

Quote from: TKGS

It's not happened to me, personally, but I have seen women "Eucharistic ministers" bless people, usually with a host in their hand.

I think you meant "Extraordinary ministers"
Only a priest is an Eucharistic Minister.
It's so easy to slip into liberal Novus Ordo language.

It is what it is.

Title: "Blessed" by Lay People
Post by: poche on January 04, 2016, 10:50:59 PM

Quote from: TKGS

It's not happened to me, personally, but I have seen women "Eucharistic ministers" bless people, usually with a host in their hand.

That is forbidden.