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Offline holysoulsacademy

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"Alter Christus" vs "In Persona Christi"
« on: January 12, 2014, 10:04:50 PM »
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  • Pls. explain "Alter Christus" & "In Persona Christi" in relation to Priests, the Priesthood.


    Offline Frances

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    "Alter Christus" vs "In Persona Christi"
    « Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 10:14:51 PM »
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  •  Frances, the :dancing-banana: is no theologian!
    I THINK the term 'alter Christus' refers to the Mass, or else the Sacrament is not Confected.  'In Persona' is usually mentioned when speaking of Confession. It probably has something to do with the specific action being performed.  
    Thanks!  You've given me something to think about this week!
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    "Alter Christus" vs "In Persona Christi"
    « Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 01:04:13 AM »
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  • Ha! Ha! I know what you mean - it actually came up in a discussion my children and I were having regarding Confession and Mass.

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    "Alter Christus" vs "In Persona Christi"
    « Reply #3 on: January 13, 2014, 02:09:43 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    Frances, the :dancing-banana: is no theologian!
    I THINK the term 'alter Christus' refers to the Mass, or else the Sacrament is not Confected.  'In Persona' is usually mentioned when speaking of Confession. It probably has something to do with the specific action being performed.  
    Thanks!  You've given me something to think about this week!


    This is how I understand it also.

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    "Alter Christus" vs "In Persona Christi"
    « Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 10:30:18 PM »
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  • Alter Christus is what every Christian should be in their daily life. This is particularly true for the priests. It means "another Christ." The priest is a representative of Christ to the Christian community.
    "In persona Christi" is how the priest acts in his administration of the sacraments. The priest as an "Alter Christl" does not act on his own during the administration of the sacraments. He acts in persona Christi, that is Christ acts through the priest in the administration of the sacraments. For example, when you go to confession and recieve absolution you don't recieve absolution in the name of the priest himself, you recieve it from Christ who acts through the priest. The priest acts "in persona Christi" and not on his own.
    I hope this is helpful.
     


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    "Alter Christus" vs "In Persona Christi"
    « Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 12:23:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    Alter Christus is what every Christian should be in their daily life. This is particularly true for the priests. It means "another Christ." The priest is a representative of Christ to the Christian community.
    "In persona Christi" is how the priest acts in his administration of the sacraments. The priest as an "Alter Christl" does not act on his own during the administration of the sacraments. He acts in persona Christi, that is Christ acts through the priest in the administration of the sacraments. For example, when you go to confession and recieve absolution you don't recieve absolution in the name of the priest himself, you recieve it from Christ who acts through the priest. The priest acts "in persona Christi" and not on his own.
    I hope this is helpful.
     


    I had someone once say that we can never contradict a priest because their an "alter Christus".  
    She meant it in such a way to almost kiss the ground the priest walked on, to the point of overlooking many possible faults.
    And we ought to overlook his behavior because he is an "alter Christus".  
    Is there catholic teaching that backs this up?

    I teach my children that everyone (especially priests) deserve a certain level of respect.
    But the priest is also human, ergo fallen nature - just like each and everyone of us, and will err.  
    So even if he is an "alter Christus", we cannot expect him to always behave like Christ.  
    I encourage my children to always pray for our priests, to keep them out of trouble, and to take them out of it if they already are.

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