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« on: May 30, 2013, 11:09:19 AM »
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  • Well to hold that (sexual abuse) against ME (or someone in a similar situation) is just a horrible thing to do. My parents didn't tell me anything about that kind of stuff when I was 6 (correction: I was informed I was 6-7 years old when this happened. Forgive me, it was a long time ago) I had NO IDEA what was happening to me. My mother was going in for a prenatal exam for my brother (I think) when this happened. She barely ever left us with a babysitter. I had no reason to not trust this kid. He was put in charge by my parents, and had two little sisters who I was friends with, and was doing it to them, too. Wanna see how he turned out? He's in prison now. Nothing happened to him when I was little because he was a juvenile, apparently not capable of being guilty. But he's getting his "reward" now.

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Vashon-child-molester-faces-indefinite-confinement-4340199.php

    http://vigilant-antis.blogspot.com/2009/07/scott-michael-schoenecker-repeat-sex.html



    Check this out. IT ONLY TOOK 26 YEARS!

    A Vashon Island child molester most recently caught groping boys at a pool there could spend the rest of his life locked up if King County prosecutors get their way.

    Prosecutors have asked that Scott M. Schoenecker be confined indefinitely at a state center for violent sexual predators. Such an order would see Schoenecker locked up at the McNeil Island facility until he is deemed fit for release or dies.

    A twice-convicted child molester, (ONLY TWICE WHAT THE HECK?) Schnoenecker is alleged to have groped more than 20 children in recent years at Western Washington shopping malls. Prosecutors contend he also molested several other children years ago, but was never charged with those allegations.
    (I'll tell you who they were. His two sisters, ME, my brother, and my sister.)

    Arguing for civil commitment, prosecutors contend Schoenecker, 44, is likely to attack other children if freed. Those assertions are supported by a psychological review conducted at the prosecution’s request.

    Under Washington law, county prosecutors or the state Attorney General’s Office can file civil lawsuits asking that convicted sex offenders be confined indefinitely at a Department of Social and Health Services facility, the Special Commitment Center.

    Prosecutors are required to show that an offender is likely to commit another sex crime, and that the offender has a mental abnormality making him more likely than not to reoffend. If a jury or judge agrees with prosecutors, an offender can be sent to the McNeil Island facility.

    The Special Commitment Center is home to about 300 men being held indefinitely. While several offenders have "graduated" from the program and more than a dozen others are living off the island, most remain at the facility. They make up about 1 percent of the sex offenders convicted in Washington courts.

    In December 2009, Schoenecker was sentenced to 3 ½ years in prison after admitting to molesting a 12-year-old boy in the locker room of a Vashon Island swimming pool.

    In that case, Schoenecker grabbed a boy from behind and reached into the boy's swimsuit. The child was able to break free and rushed to a staff member as Schoenecker fled.

    Another boy who saw Schoenecker in the locker room spotted him at the Vashon Library the following day. Police arrested Schoenecker shortly thereafter at a nearby grocery.

    A registered sex offender, Schoenecker been released from prison weeks before the June 2009 attack, having served a 15-month sentence following a 2006 child molestation conviction.

    In that case, Schoenecker was accused of groping several boys at a Tukwilla Target . One 15-year-old boy spotted Schoenecker touching himself while staring at him; the boy told police Schoenecker was wearing partially transparent shorts without underwear.  :barf:

    Speaking with a state psychologist at the Monroe Correctional Complex, Schoenecker admitted to molesting the two boys as well as several other children when he was in his teens. (WOAH! IT WASN'T JUST MY MOM "Watching too many soap operas." LIKE HIS MOTHER TRIED TO SAY WAS MY MOTHER'S PROBLEM WHEN SHE CONFRONTED HER!) According to the civil commitment request, Schoenecker also admitted to groping about 20 other adolescent boys at shopping malls.

    Describing his upbringing as “uneventful,” the Texas native had been consistently employed until his first child molestation conviction in 2006. Since then, Schnoenecker has supported himself through a $100,000 settlement paid out by the Catholic Diocese of Fort Worth to former parishioners sexually assaulted by priests there. (LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE ANOTHER LAWSUIT ON THEIR HANDS. YOU BET YOUR BOOTS I'M CALLING A LAWYER TOMORROW! HE GOT $100,000 FOR THAT? AND WAS MOLESTING ME!?  :devil2:)

    Prior to incarceration, Schoenecker had never been prescribed psychiatric medication nor had he been diagnosed with mental health problems, according to the psychologist’s report. Schoenecker did previously tell police he sought counseling for sexual addition.

    Describing Schoenecker as an “intelligent and likeable fellow,” the state’s psychologist, John Hupka, opined that Schnoenecker could have been expected to follow the course charted by his siblings, who are now professionals in well-respected fields. Hupka also noted Schnoenecker has received a year of treatment since his last sex offence.

    Nonetheless, the psychologist asserted that Schnoenecker is mentally ill and likely to molest children again.

    “Although Mr. Schnoenecker professes that he has changed, he seems to be at much the same place now as he was … after his first incarceration, i.e. being released into the community without adequate treatment … and thus leaving him at risk to reoffend when he is under stress,” Hupka told the court.

    Schnoenecker’s attorneys have not yet responded to the prosecutors’ allegations in court. He is currently being held at the special commitment center, and is expected to face a jury in November.

    I called a lawyer about this this morning. Why should this scumbag get paid $100,000 and continue to MOLEST KIDS while he's living off the settlement, and my siblings and I got NO JUSTICE AT ALL for what he did. The whole reason this happened was because that novus ordo priest molested him!
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    "A blood boiling post worthy of its own thread"
    « Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 11:23:58 AM »
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  • I'm speechless...
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    « Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 11:34:17 PM »
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  • Sadly, I am not speechless. I am disgusted but not surprised by this.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    "A blood boiling post worthy of its own thread"
    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 12:38:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    Well to hold that (sexual abuse) against ME (or someone in a similar situation) is just a horrible thing to do.


    Well, that's what people who are on the same wavelength as those who abuse vulnerable people would do. ( Not always, there is also serious ignorance )   Either way, such a lack of mercy is incredibly painful to bear, sometimes in a way WORSE than the abuse.

     Offenders very typically blame their targets.  There are any number of transcripts and interviews to prove this.  (not to be viewed without good cause because they are so sickening and scandalous)










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    « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 12:41:54 AM »
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    I called a lawyer about this this morning. Why should this scumbag get paid $100,000 and continue to MOLEST KIDS while he's living off the settlement, and my siblings and I got NO JUSTICE AT ALL for what he did. The whole reason this happened was because that novus ordo priest molested him!


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    « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 01:49:38 AM »
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  • Being the mother of these children, I find it difficult to even talk about this 30 years later.

    We moved to Texas because my husband was transferred there.  When I got pregnant with my fifth child, we were not allowed to bring the children into the doctor's office.  I knew very few people in that town which was a small suburb of Arlington.  When my appointment date came up, I was under the impression that a choir member's daughter was going to babysit my children.  (I was always very careful who I asked to babysit and never left the children with anyone I didn't know and trust.)  The day of the appointment, I was told that her daughter couldn't, but that her very reliable son could watch them for a few hours.  

    It wasn't until a few days later that I found out what happened in my house.  I cannot describe to you how I felt.  As I write this I am crying.   This is so difficult.  How could this happen?  My innocent little ones...how?  If I had any idea....I had no idea...I still feel betrayed.  I feel like some monster stole my children's innocence.  A 14 yr. old monster....yes.  My husband had to talk to his mother.  I couldn't....I just couldn't.  Then to find out she was in denial....she didn't even question.  He didn't do it...The children must have been watching soap operas.... :facepalm: with me :facepalm:  Then only to find out that the very next afternoon after school, he was babysitting for 2 young boys, first and second graders.  That painful information went right over her head.   UNBELIEVABLE!  Then we called the police.  I was informed by a woman detective that he probably had done this before and most likely was a victim himself.  Oh, AND it was very likely that he wouldn't stop.  My husband and I thought maybe it was an older brother or uncle or his grandfather who had abused him.  NEVER had it dawned on my that it was Monseigneur Reilley.....I would never have guessed that...at all.  Yes I am naming him because this is a matter of public record and easy enough to look up.  He died in 1999 of complications of Alzheimer's.  I only hope that he made his peace with God before the dementia took hold of his mind.

    I have thought about it off and on but with this new information, the pain has come back with a fury...  To say that I blame myself goes without saying.  Ultimately the safety of the child is the parent's responsibility.  I feel like I failed them.  
    Amen quippe dico vobis donec transeat caelum et terra iota unum aut unus apex non praeteribit a lege donec omnia fiant  (For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. )

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    « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 12:35:01 PM »
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  • I am so profoundly sorry that his happened to your children.
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    « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2013, 01:11:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: inprincipio
    Being the mother of these children, I find it difficult to even talk about this 30 years later.

    We moved to Texas because my husband was transferred there.  When I got pregnant with my fifth child, we were not allowed to bring the children into the doctor's office.  I knew very few people in that town which was a small suburb of Arlington.  When my appointment date came up, I was under the impression that a choir member's daughter was going to babysit my children.  (I was always very careful who I asked to babysit and never left the children with anyone I didn't know and trust.)  The day of the appointment, I was told that her daughter couldn't, but that her very reliable son could watch them for a few hours.  

    It wasn't until a few days later that I found out what happened in my house.  I cannot describe to you how I felt.  As I write this I am crying.   This is so difficult.  How could this happen?  My innocent little ones...how?  If I had any idea....I had no idea...I still feel betrayed.  I feel like some monster stole my children's innocence.  A 14 yr. old monster....yes.  My husband had to talk to his mother.  I couldn't....I just couldn't.  Then to find out she was in denial....she didn't even question.  He didn't do it...The children must have been watching soap operas.... :facepalm: with me :facepalm:  Then only to find out that the very next afternoon after school, he was babysitting for 2 young boys, first and second graders.  That painful information went right over her head.   UNBELIEVABLE!  Then we called the police.  I was informed by a woman detective that he probably had done this before and most likely was a victim himself.  Oh, AND it was very likely that he wouldn't stop.  My husband and I thought maybe it was an older brother or uncle or his grandfather who had abused him.  NEVER had it dawned on my that it was Monseigneur Reilley.....I would never have guessed that...at all.  Yes I am naming him because this is a matter of public record and easy enough to look up.  He died in 1999 of complications of Alzheimer's.  I only hope that he made his peace with God before the dementia took hold of his mind.

    I have thought about it off and on but with this new information, the pain has come back with a fury...  To say that I blame myself goes without saying.  Ultimately the safety of the child is the parent's responsibility.  I feel like I failed them.  


    What a sad, horrible story. May Our Lady console you.

    What strikes me about this story is just how irrational and detached from reality some women can be. ESPECIALLY when it's about her own children.

    I wouldn't believe it possible if I didn't come across so many cases of it.

    I mean, if there were good Catholic psychologists out there (who don't follow frauds like Freud) they would have their work cut out for them, with some of the individuals I've met, as well as read about.
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    I have thought about it off and on but with this new information, the pain has come back with a fury...  To say that I blame myself goes without saying.  Ultimately the safety of the child is the parent's responsibility.  I feel like I failed them.  


    You have my empathy and prayers.  Mother of Sorrows, help us with the blaming of ourselves, trying to embrace the Cross and falling. :pray: :pray: :pray:

    I recently alluded to my experiences at  SSPV-ICA, and the reaction of one of our posters was to repeatedly warn others of my unreliability, that I am a troublemaker, I keep changing my story, etc.

    New info had surfaced which ripped my heart out.  There are some seriously disturbed trad Catholic kids with parents who are enabled by merciless, face-saving adults.

    edit: I don't even cry, I just am having a panic attack this minute, but I do know the shaking goes away after an hour or so.

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  • Inprincipio-  :pray: :pray: :pray:

    Elizabeth too  :pray:

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    What strikes me about this story is just how irrational and detached from reality some women can be. ESPECIALLY when it's about her own children.
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    Or priests, when it is about their own family members or favorites.
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  • Perpetrators typically blame their victims. What is worse is that members of the public often act as co-perpetrators. To protect their view of the world as a safe place, and to maintain their own cognitive consonance, they often join the perps in blaming the victim or victims. Nowhere is this more clear than in multi-  perpetrator, multi-victim cases. For co-perpetrators, that really rocks their world. What? multiple perps? child porn? ritual abuse? No, they can't handle reality. Not content to simply go into denial, they often engage in joining in the game of blaming the victim or victims.
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    « Reply #12 on: June 01, 2013, 02:49:22 PM »
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  • Your stories bring tears to my eyes ... I will remember you who have suffered in my rosaries.  May our Most Holy Mother and Queen console you.

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  • Thank you so much for your prayers.

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    I have thought about it off and on but with this new information, the pain has come back with a fury...  To say that I blame myself goes without saying.  Ultimately the safety of the child is the parent's responsibility.  I feel like I failed them.  


    How can parents prevent this from happening?

    How can parents help children that have been molested?

    Do you know warnings that most people ignore, or things that could help this kind of things from happening?

    It hurts me to read about this, I'm a father too, and I would go crazy if anything like this would happen to my little one.

    Talking about this is painful for you, but if you can advise us (parents) maybe something productive can come out of your experience.

    But if you don't feel ready, that's fine, I understand.
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