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Offline Matto

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Traditional Catholic Devotional Candles?
« on: January 18, 2020, 06:51:59 PM »
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  • Hi. I wanted to buy devotional Candles with the image of Archbishop Lefebvre on them, but I do not know where to find them or if anyone makes them. I would also like to get a devotional candle with the image of Bishop Pivarunas on it for my sedevacantist friend. I think that one would be hard to find. If there are none available, I would have to get them custom made (I found websites to do this). But I would rather find someone who is selling them than have them custom made because of the expense. Does anyone know any place where I could find such candles?
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    Re: Traditional Catholic Devotional Candles?
    « Reply #1 on: January 18, 2020, 07:26:46 PM »
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  • I think that this would be a little odd ... since neither has been canonized yet, and the one is even alive.


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    Re: Traditional Catholic Devotional Candles?
    « Reply #2 on: January 18, 2020, 07:32:56 PM »
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  • I think that this would be a little odd ... since neither has been canonized yet, and the one is even alive.

    I don't think Lefebvre not being canonized yet is an issue. That is not how canonization works in my mind. It is not an ultimatum from above, but subsidiary. It is not as if we are not allowed to have a devotion to someone or pray to him or honor him before the process of canonization begins. Devotion begins before canonization. First a saintly man dies, then a cult emerges, people pray to a saint, miracles are granted if he is really in heaven, and then, years later the process begins (as opposed to modernist political canonizations like Escriva or the modernist popes/antipopes). I agree that Pivarunas would be strange as he is not dead yet, but I also think it would be cool. The downside being that if normies found out about it they would accuse us of being cult members.
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    Re: Traditional Catholic Devotional Candles?
    « Reply #3 on: January 18, 2020, 07:42:15 PM »
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  • I does sound a bit cult-like to decorate a candle with a living person. And it would hardly be a traditional candle.
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    Re: Traditional Catholic Devotional Candles?
    « Reply #4 on: January 18, 2020, 09:05:36 PM »
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  • It does sound a bit cult-like to decorate a candle with a living person. And it would hardly be a traditional candle.

    Nadir's concerns are, I believe, the ones that ought to be foremost in your mind, Matto. This is an area where one ought to tread with the maximum of care.

    Why not buy traditional candles and include with them a nicely printed prayer for either the archbishop or the bishop. (Don't Kinko and similar places do specialized printing on the sort of heavy stock used for invitations to weddings and other formal celebratory events and for funeral announcements?) For the archbishop, the prayer would be easy; something along the following lines:

    "O heavenly Father, we beseech Thee, in the name of Thy beloved Son, to look favorably upon the virtues and good works of Marcel Lefebvre, Thy faithful servant and archbishop, and if it be for Thy glory and the sanctification of souls, mercifully hear our prayer that he soon may be raised to the altars of Thy holy Church."

    A hundred or so years ago, when I was in high school, we students were regularly called upon to pray a similar prayer for the canonization of the founder of the Irish Christian Brothers, the Venerable Edmund Ignatius Rice. So far, no luck, but once Jorge canonizes Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, perhaps he'll find a moment to consider an actual Catholic. Or perhaps he won't—so much the better for Brother Rice.

    It would be a bit trickier for +Pivarunas, but the wording might include something like "we pray that Thou wilt vouchsafe Thy servant the grace to persevere in his efforts to spread devotion to Thy holy Name and restore the holy Church established by Thy beloved Son to a state consonant with Thy will." And so forth.


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    Re: Traditional Catholic Devotional Candles?
    « Reply #5 on: January 18, 2020, 09:10:18 PM »
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  • I does sound a bit cult-like to decorate a candle with a living person. And it would hardly be a traditional candle.
    I do not think Archbishop Lefebvre would like it either.  He has said that he wanted people to believe the true Church that he represents.  He expressed his abhorrence of anyone who glorifies him.   I wish I could find the exact quote because he did not use the word 'glorify' as such but that was the meaning he seemed to convey.
    "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."