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Offline Geremia

Re: Will the Real Catechism of Pius X Please Stand Up?
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2019, 12:25:00 PM »
Here is the English translation of Pope St. Pius X's Compendio della Dottrina Cristiana, which contains all three of his catechisms:
  • Prime nozioni di Catechismo per i fanciulli di tenera età
  • Catechismo breve. Prima parte del Compendio della Dottrina Cristiana per le Classi Inferiori
  • Catechismo maggiore
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Offline Struthio

Re: Will the Real Catechism of Pius X Please Stand Up?
« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2020, 11:11:44 AM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on August 10, 2019, 03:55:16 PM
Will the Real Catechism of Pius X Please Stand Up?

On the website of the Museo San Pio X in Salzano (Venezia) there are digital transcripts of three versions of what is called "Catechism of Pius X" including


Scanning the text for "batt"esimo (baptism), "sang"ue (blood), and "desi"derio (desire) I could not find any reference to BoB or BoD.


The other two later versions found on that site do talk about Battesimo di sangue, Battesimo di desiderio, desiderio almeno implicito etc.



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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Will the Real Catechism of Pius X Please Stand Up?
« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2020, 11:56:34 AM »
It's well known that the American Baltimore catechism of the 1800s had BOD and BOB in there, and the US bishops included them, not rome.  It would not be surprising that the US Bishops inserted BOD and BOB into Pius X's catechism as well. 
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Offline Struthio

Re: Will the Real Catechism of Pius X Please Stand Up?
« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2020, 12:05:56 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on February 24, 2020, 11:56:34 AM
It's well known that the American Baltimore catechism of the 1800s had BOD and BOB in there, and the US bishops included them, not rome.  It would not be surprising that the US Bishops inserted BOD and BOB into Pius X's catechism as well.

BoB and BoD also were inserted ex post in the early 1800s in Bavaria, home of Adam Weishaupt, in the Catechism of St. Petrus Canisius. Differing versions are available on archive.org.

The italian wikipedia-page

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechismo_di_Pio_X

has a different story though on the "Catechism of Pius X." It starts with Il Catechismo di Pio X è una sintesi di un catechismo unico del Congresso Catechistico nαzιonale svolto a Piacenza nel 1889 and has, as far as I could find so far, no real proof that St. Pius X approved what is sold as his Catechism. It is an odd wiki-page with more footnotes than text.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Will the Real Catechism of Pius X Please Stand Up?
« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2020, 02:52:09 PM »
Quote from: Struthio on February 24, 2020, 11:11:44 AM
On the website of the Museo San Pio X in Salzano (Venezia) there are digital transcripts of three versions of what is called "Catechism of Pius X" including


Scanning the text for "batt"esimo (baptism), "sang"ue (blood), and "desi"derio (desire) I could not find any reference to BoB or BoD.


The other two later versions found on that site do talk about Battesimo di sangue, Battesimo di desiderio, desiderio almeno implicito etc.

This one in the link here is from a manuscript written in St. Pius X's own hand (when he was still a priest) ... and makes no mention of BoD or BoB.  Do you have direct links to the other two (I could not find them)?
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