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Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
« Reply #165 on: November 10, 2017, 08:22:29 AM »
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  • Circuмcision was not a precept, it was a commandment of God, starting with Abraham.

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    There really are no words.


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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #166 on: November 10, 2017, 08:23:50 AM »
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  • :facepalm:

    There really are no words.
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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #167 on: November 10, 2017, 08:25:57 AM »
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    You think so?
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    A precept is a general rule of behavior.  A commandment is a Divine rule, like the ten commandments and if you break that rule, you die i.e. mortal sin.
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    Did you find that in Webster's dictionary?

    Motorede is correct.

    You really have no clue whatsoever about the distinction between necessity of means and necessity of precept.

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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #168 on: November 10, 2017, 09:25:14 AM »
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  • Catechumens do not have supernatural faith until it is infused in them through water baptism along with hope and charity. No water baptism, no salvific faith.
    The Church teaches otherwise.

    Take an exaggerated example for the purpose of making a point.  

    What would you say if an atheist, a person who has publically announced how he hated Catholics and everything related to God.  He, unfortunately, was involved in an accident that left him brain dead.  While in this state, a religious member of his family poured water over him and said the proper words, just as the Church does before he died. 
     
    Now consider a person who had as the Bible states (amen I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you shall say to this mountain, Remove from hence hither, and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible to you."
    [Matthew 17:19] )  He too was killed in an accident while on his way to the Church to be Baptised.  
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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #169 on: November 10, 2017, 09:43:09 AM »
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  • This brings to mind another error of BOD supporters, which is that they claim an "act of perfect love" suffices for salvation. Yet how can that act be greater than one who has received the Sacrament of baptism (in which supernatural charity is infused into the soul)? If it is not greater, then how could it be perfect?
    This above brings to mind a grave error of those who deny God's Mercy.
    They continue to put the cart before the horse, thereby throwing off balance of logic.  
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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #170 on: November 10, 2017, 10:46:48 AM »
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  • those who deny God's Mercy

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    No, Myrna, it's people like you who deny God's Mercy.  You impose your own notion of "mercy" on God and then would accuse Him of lacking in mercy if He doesn't conform to your notions about what would be merciful and what would not.  That takes a lot of hubris.

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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #171 on: November 10, 2017, 10:48:39 AM »
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  • This brings to mind another error of BOD supporters, which is that they claim an "act of perfect love" suffices for salvation.

    When human actions are salvific, you've crossed the line into Pelagianism.  99.9% of BoDers are Pelagians.

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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #172 on: November 10, 2017, 11:07:11 AM »
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    It really is pointless to argue with those, who believe in BOD.  No matter how much truth is thrown at them, they will not believe.  Even Jesus said;
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    John 10:26 But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep.
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    They don't even believe the bible, they call you a prot or a Jєω, its amazing.  They always claim misinterpretation, out of context, these are the things that liars say.
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    John 10:26 But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep.
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    They don't even believe the bible, they call you a prot or a Jєω, its amazing.  They always claim misinterpretation, out of context, these are the things that liars say.


    Here is a mirror for you.



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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #173 on: November 10, 2017, 11:42:29 AM »
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    No, Myrna, it's people like you who deny God's Mercy.  You impose your own notion of "mercy" on God and then would accuse Him of lacking in mercy if He doesn't conform to your notions about what would be merciful and what would not.  That takes a lot of hubris.
    So please explain in lay man's terms how I accuse Him of lacking in mercy.  I would not want to be guilty of that, therefore I really want to know more about this grave sin you accuse me of. 
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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #174 on: November 10, 2017, 11:47:51 AM »
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  • So please explain in lay man's terms how I accuse Him of lacking in mercy.  I would not want to be guilty of that, therefore I really want to know more about this grave sin you accuse me of.

    I just did ... the very quote to which you're responding.

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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #175 on: November 10, 2017, 11:53:45 AM »
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  • Logic says that God does not command impossibilities. If a person is of good will, God can preserve him (through His mercy) to receive the Sacrament of Baptism. For although you believe in God's mercy (as I do), you deny His justice and His power.
    You may be correct in that God can certainly preserve him, and I agree He can and has. 
    That would be God exception to His rule, and according to others of your beliefs, they deny God's exceptions to His rules, if you are one who does not deny His exception then you would have to consider that the person with Faith is favored by God if they should pass away suddenly but had every intention of receiving the Sacrament of Baptism because what comes first, grace or mercy?  
     
    This is why murder cries out to God for vengeance since murder interrupts the plan of God for a particular person.
    People die when God had other plans for them to live. 
    There is so much that we really don't know but it is important to stay with what the Church teaches and not blame Modernist from centuries ago for inserting things in writings that you don't agree with.  Have a little Faith in the Holy Ghost and the teachings of the Baltimore Catechism and other teachings like Trent.  "Or desire"!
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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #176 on: November 10, 2017, 11:55:15 AM »
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  • I just did ... the very quote to which you're responding.
    Clever way of wiggling out!  :laugh2:  
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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #177 on: November 10, 2017, 12:17:37 PM »
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  • Clever way of wiggling out!  :laugh2:  

    Evidently you're just not good at reading.  Would you like me to re-paste it for you?

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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #178 on: November 10, 2017, 12:28:13 PM »
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  • No, just explain what you are trying to say in simpler terms, give me examples.  

    Maybe I am just slow today but I want to know exactly how I am guilty of denying the Mercy of God, this is serious to me, I am sincere in asking.  

    Leaving for Mass right now and will talk to God about this.  Yes, I am worried, I don't agree with you but do respect you.  
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    Re: Why so many Feeneyites on Cathinfo?
    « Reply #179 on: November 10, 2017, 01:11:01 PM »
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  • ... exceptions to God's rules, like LYING, and engaging in SELF-CONTRADICTION.
    "Lord, have mercy".