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Re: Why Feeneyites Hate Catholic Teaching
« Reply #95 on: August 16, 2017, 09:57:32 AM »
Well, yes, it is based on the revelation of a nun, which puts it in the realm of the subjective, and therefore not absolute, of course. But it does give an indication that she was saved - not by her religion, but because of God's grace, due to her son's fervent prayers for her. Cannot God be moved to tell the truth about Our Lord and His Church to an unbaptized person, due to fervent prayers for that person?
Why did you chose to leave out the rest of what I wrote? It is the most important part. There are like three stories like yours in the history of the Church, that's it. It sounds like you are choosing teachers according to your own desires. The story you posted is teaching that people in all religions can be saved, is that what you believe?

The rest of what I wrote that you left out:

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Meanwhile there are hundreds of thousands of authenticated Catholic accounts of people barely hanging onto life for long periods of time (the Indians of the Americas) till a missionary wanders in to baptize them, then they died within minutes. You can read about it in Father De Smet's biography  The life of Father De Smet, The Apostle of the Rockies and also in Isaac Jogues's biography Saint Among Savages: The Life of St. Isaac Jogues. There are also hundreds of accounts of people being brought back from the dead just to be baptized then they die right after the baptism. I place one such account below.


Re: Why Feeneyites Hate Catholic Teaching
« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2017, 10:01:27 AM »
Read the entire post, Dizzy. She did convert.
1. Non-responsive.
2. I did, perhaps you should. .^. the question/point. To spell it out , first of all your acct is contradictory, i.e. , and subject matter/content aside, NOT CATHOLIC.

I'm trying very hard to at least be civil, perhaps you would try to do likewise?


Re: Why Feeneyites Hate Catholic Teaching
« Reply #97 on: August 16, 2017, 10:04:57 AM »
What's your obsession with this issue, LoT?  It's at the point of being a mental problem.  Aren't there bigger fish to fry than a handful of marginalized and ridiculed people who take the EENS dogma at face value?
All he is doing is posting quotes about BOD of the catechumen and BOB, one at a time, none of which apply to what he believes and is trying to convert others to believe; that Jews, Mohamedans, Hindus, Buddhists etc can be saved. If he posted quotes that taught Jews, Mohamedans, Hindus, Buddhists etc can be saved, he would have nothing to post but the mental gymnastics of modern theologians.

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Re: Why Feeneyites Hate Catholic Teaching
« Reply #98 on: August 16, 2017, 10:05:12 AM »
Why did you chose to leave out the rest of what I wrote? It is the most important part. There are like three stories like yours in the history of the Church, that's it. It sounds like you are choosing teachers according to your own desires. The story you posted is teaching that people in all religions can be saved, is that what you believe?

The rest of what I wrote that you left out:

I'm quite familiar with the lives of the North American Martyrs. I recommend an excellent book about their lives, called, "Saints of the American Wilderness."

I left it out because I wasn't interested in your extreme view. You are saying that those who believe in Bod believe that those in all religions can be saved, and that's not what I'm saying at all. You take an extreme and untruthful view of what I said, and then you expect that I am supposed accept and comment on what you are saying. Until you can, in a mature manner, truthfully comment on what I said, I will not respond further to you.

Re: Why Feeneyites Hate Catholic Teaching
« Reply #99 on: August 16, 2017, 10:07:40 AM »
I'm quite familiar with the lives of the North American Martyrs. I recommend an excellent book about their lives, called, "Saints of the American Wilderness."

I left it out because I wasn't interested in your extreme view. You are saying that those who believe in Bod believe that those in all religions can be saved, and that's not what I'm saying at all. You take an extreme and untruthful view of what I said, and then you expect that I am supposed accept and comment on what you are saying. Until you can, in a mature manner, truthfully comment on what I said, I will not respond further to you.
If you believe that Jєωιѕн mother was saved as it is described, then why not a Mohamedan, Buddhist, Hindu, indeed any religion be saved the same way? There is in your quote not one indication that the Jewess was a catechumen or had the explicit desire to be a Catholic in her last moments. Based on the story, I have to ask: then why not a Mohamedan, Buddhist, Hindu, indeed any religion be saved the same way?