LT, you’re missing the point. Apart from the “Limbo of the Just” in the OT, the entire idea of Limbo for the New Testament is speculative. I don’t have to believe any of it. It’s not defined. So no one can say the details 100%.
Limbo of the infants is not "all" speculative.Here's a copy and paste from my archives from like three docuмents. Some quotes my be repeated: The Limbus
Infantium, or Limbo of Infants, is the abode where the souls of those who die in Original Sin, but without personal
(actual) sin, are deprived of the happiness that
would come to them in the supernatural order,
but not of the happiness of the natural order. It is an article of faith,
most recently confirmed at the dogmatic Council
of Trent, that those who die without Baptism, and in whose case the want of Baptism has not been supplied in any other way,
cannot enter heaven. Nothing imperfect
can be in the presence of God, as we know from the Apocalypse: "There shall not enter into it [the
glory of God] any thing defiled"
(21:27/DRV). The great majority of the
authoritative theologians of the
Church, among them Peter Abelard, St. Bonaventure, St. Thomas Aquinas,
Duns Scotus, teach that infants dying in Original Sin suffer no "pain of sense," but are excluded from heaven.
This opinion is no modern invention, for it is found in St. Gregory of nαzιanzus
(Or. in Sanct. Baptism 23, PG XXXVI:389), one of the Great Eastern Fathers of the
Church. St. Thomas Aquinas teaches that such souls do not suffer pain of
sense because pain of punishment is proportioned to personal guilt, which does
not exist here. He says that those in limbo do not grieve because they
cannot see God any more than a bird grieves because it cannot be a king.
"No, they rejoice because they share in God's goodness and in many
natural perfections," he says. The unbaptized in limbo know and love
God by
the use of their natural powers, and have full natural happiness.
(De Malo, 5:3; Sent. II
d. 33 Q. 2 A. 2)
St. Thomas Aquinas, the Church's principal theologian, teaches that
unbaptized children do not suffer pain because of their privation. They are
not capable of the grace of the supernatural order, which is not owed to man
(the word "grace" itself denotes something "gratuitous" from God), but
possess a natural well-being that results from their being united to God by
their participation in His natural goods.
Following the teachings of the Prince of Theologians, St. Augustine
of Hippo, Pope St. Gregory the Great, and the Scholastic Theologians,
including the Seraphic Doctor St. Bonaventure and the Universal Doctor St.
Thomas Aquinas, the Seventeenth Oecuмenical Council in 1438-1445) adopted an
canonized as a matter of faith: "illorum animas, qui in actuali mortali
peccato vel solo originali decedunt, mox in infernum descendere, poenis tamen
disparibus puniendas [the souls of those who die in actual Mortal Sin or only
Original Sin, thereupon descend into Hell, but to be punished with disparate
punishments]."
In 1794 Pope Pius XI confirmed the existence of Limbo as a place
lacking the Beatific Vision, but without the pain of punishment
This is the teaching of the Church and cannot be denied, having behind it
both antiquity from Patristic times and from the Scholastic Theologians,
including St. Thomas Aquinas.
Further Authoritative Teaching of the Church"[Those dying with only original sin on their souls will suffer] no other pain, whether from material fire or from the worm of conscience, except the pain of being deprived forever of the vision of God."-Pope Innocent III (1160-1216), Corp. Juris, Decret. l. III, tit. xlii, c. iii -- Majores“The common teaching of the scholastic theologians is the within the earth there are four inner chambers: one for the damned, another for those being purged of sin, a third for those infants who have died without receiving Baptism, and a fourth which is now empty but once held those just men who died before the passion of Christ.”-Saint Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621), Doctor of the Church“The doctrine which rejects as a Pelagian fable that place of the lower regions (which the faithful generally designate by the name of limbo of the children) in which the souls of those departing with the sole guilt of original sin are punished with the punishment of the condemned, exclusive of the punishment of fire… is false, rash, injurious to Catholic schools.”-Pope Pius VI, Auctorem Fidei, August 28, 1794The Council of Florence, 1438 1445Decree for the GreeksBut the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go down straightaway to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains.(Denzinger 693)The Council of Florence, 1438 1445Bull of Union with the CoptsWith regard to children, since the danger of death is often present and the only remedy available to them is the sacrament of baptism by which they are snatched away from the dominion of the devil and adopted as children of God, it admonishes that sacred baptism is not to be deferred for forty or eighty days or any other period of time in accordance with the usage of some people, but should be conferred as soon as it conveniently can; and if there is imminent danger of death, the child should be baptized straightaway without any delay even by a lay man or a woman in the form of the church, if there is no priest, as is contained more fully in the decree on the Armenians. (Denzinger 712)Council of Lyons IL (1274)The Souls of those that die in mortal sin or in original sin go down into Hell, but there they receive different punishments. (Denzinger 464) Council of Carthage, (417 418)Original Sin and Grace Canon 2If anyone should say that newborn children need not be baptized that no original sin is derived from Adam to be washed away in the laver of regeneration, so that in their case the baptismal formula for the remission of sins is to be taken in a fictitious and not in the true sense, "let him be Anathema" (Denzinger 102)Innocent III 1198 1216The effect of BaptismThe punishment of original sin is the deprivation of the vision of God but the punishment of actual is the torments of everlasting hell ... (Denzinger 410)Errors of the Synod of Pistoia[Condemnations in the Constitution, "Auctorem fidei, " Aug. 28, 1794]The Punishment of Those Who Die with Original Sin[Baptism, sec. 3]26.The doctrine which rejects as Pelagian fable, that place of the lower regions ( which the faithful generally designate by the name of the limbo of children) in which the souls of those departing with the sole guilt of original sin are punished of with the punishment of the condemned, exclusive of the punishment of fire, just as if. by this very fact, that these who remove the punishment of fire introduced that middle place and state free of guilt and of punishment between the kingdom of God and eternal damnation, such as that about which the Pelagians idly talk,false, rash, injurious to Catholic teachings. (CONDEMNED) (Denzinger 1526)