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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => The Feeneyism Ghetto => Topic started by: TraditionalistThomas on June 03, 2012, 09:41:06 AM
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He seems to make a lot of videos about Jews on YouTube. What do you guys think of him?
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I enjoy him, so far.
I've been learning a LOT about the Judaic mind, lately.
So far, from the few videos of his that I've watched, I am in agreement with him. I do not think it is outlandish to say that, at this point, America is a Judaic colony.
The Judaic minds own Hollywood, the banks, Washington, the news media...and so much more. The Judaic Zeitgeist--if there is such a thing--is leading this land into ruin.
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Now, I must say this. When it come to talking about the "Jews," controversy stirs because different people will think that it is either about a race issue, an ethnicity issue, a religious issue, or a cultural issue. There are many Jews / Hebrew people who are Christian. The crux of the argument's problem is the term: Jew. So many people use the word "Jew" in a confusing manner.
I therefore try to restrict my language by addressing those with "a Judaic mind." Things are clearer that way.
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He's awesome. He tells the truth about the Jews, and he can get away with it (I think) because he's ethnically 'Jєωιѕн'. Plus, because of his background, he seems to have a deeper understanding of the Judaic mindset than even most trads. Too bad he's Orthodox, though.
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He's awesome. He tells the truth about the Jews, and he can get away with it (I think) because he's ethnically 'Jєωιѕн'. Plus, because of his background, he seems to have a deeper understanding of the Judaic mindset than even most trads. Too bad he's Orthodox, though.
Not really, if he were in union with the Latin Church he would've been suppressed years ago.
I believe outside of Bp Williamson no true Roman Catholic clergy has had the shadow of a chance of telling the truth about тαℓмυdic Judaism. Or even the courage to try for that matter.
I've been following Brother Nathaniel for years and the guy is spot on, although he is a bit of a pariah amongst the Orthodox as well.
Telling the truth is never popular.
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He's a little too sensational for me. Don't think I've ever actually disagreed with him on anything, but sometimes I cringe when I watch his videos and it's not always because of what he's talking about.
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He is not Orthodox. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox religious garb would no that no Orthodox priest or Monk dresses like that. He may be associated with some uncanonical group that claims to be Orthodox, just as there are Old Catholic independent groups that claim to be Catholic. He is a nutjob. Please ignore him.
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His website site http://www.realjewnews.com/ (http://www.realjewnews.com/) has a new simple look. It used to be very loud and garish. I wonder if he has followed up this inclination in person. I prefer the new look.
LaramieHirsh:
There are many Jews / Hebrew people who are Christian.
More confusion!
a. You cannot be both Jew and Christian at the one time.
b. Hebrew is a language not a people.
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His website site http://www.realjewnews.com/ (http://www.realjewnews.com/) has a new simple look. It used to be very loud and garish. I wonder if he has followed up this inclination in person. I prefer the new look.
LaramieHirsh:
There are many Jews / Hebrew people who are Christian.
More confusion!
a. You cannot be both Jew and Christian at the one time.
b. Hebrew is a language not a people.
Stop being pedantic, you know what I mean.
There are many people from the race of people that we know as "The Jews," who converted to Christianity during Christ's time on Earth, and many of these same people of that race left the Judaic cult and joined Christianity.
That race of people never disappered. Semites, etc. They're still there.
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He is not Orthodox. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox religious garb would no that no Orthodox priest or Monk dresses like that. He may be associated with some uncanonical group that claims to be Orthodox, just as there are Old Catholic independent groups that claim to be Catholic. He is a nutjob. Please ignore him.
He is, from what I know, in union with the Russian Orthodox Church.
Now, I want you to prove once and for all this is not true.......put up or shut up.
Or stop with the damn calumny and detraction of another mans reputation because you don't like his politics. you're the one that needs to be ignored.
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Okay. Let's start with this. Only novices in the Orthodox monastic world are called Brother. I will agree that in this county this is sometimes not observed, and that monks who are not deacons or priests are called brother. However, only priests in the Russian Orthodox tradition wear pectoral crosses. He has one on, but is not a priest. Also, the crosses worn by priests are suspended on a chain, hanging down to mid chest or even lower. They do not wear chokers.
There is a simple way to resolve this matter. If he really is a canonical "Russian " Orthodox, he will be affiliated either with The Orthodox Church in America, The Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, or the Patriarchate. I will email all three of these bodies and ask if he is one of theirs. I am confident all three will say no, but I will post whatever there responses are.
According to one article I read, he claims to be affiliated with ROCOR. so I will start there.
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This is the content of the email I sent to representative of ROCOR. I will send the same email, with adjustments for the person and jurisdiction. to representatives of the OCA and the patriarchate. Archpriest Serge, to whom this email was sent, is a media representative for the Easter American Diocese of ROCOR. A simple look at their website can confirm this if anyone has doubts.
Archpriest Serge,
As I expect you are aware, there is a man with many videos on Youtube who styles himself Brother Nathaniel Kapner. He claims to be a Russian Orthodox monk. For this to be accurate, I believe he would have to be affiliated with ROCOR, The OCA, or a patriarchal institution. Given the content of his messages and his manner of dress I find this very unlikely. I wonder if, given your role as a media representative for a ROCOR diocese, you could tell me what if any canonical status this man holds within Orthodoxy.
Thank you, Father, for any information you can offer.
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
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He is not Orthodox. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox religious garb would no that no Orthodox priest or Monk dresses like that. He may be associated with some uncanonical group that claims to be Orthodox, just as there are Old Catholic independent groups that claim to be Catholic. He is a nutjob. Please ignore him.
He is, from what I know, in union with the Russian Orthodox Church.
Now, I want you to prove once and for all this is not true.......put up or shut up.
Or stop with the damn calumny and detraction of another mans reputation because you don't like his politics. you're the one that needs to be ignored.
Alaric, I remember this video from quite some time ago. One would real have to dig if they hadn't already seen it to find Brother Nathaniel's video about his Orthodox monastic life. Here it is...http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=643
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
The monastery he attended has left ROCOR. Perhaps that has something to do with the way they answered you.
From Mt. Athos to Boston
Fr. Panteleimon, of Greek descent, became a monk on Mt Athos at St. Pantelemon's Monastery. He later joined the New Skete, and with the blessing of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, moved to the Boston area and founded the Holy Transfiguration Monastery.
1960-1970
The monastery was founded in the winter of 1960 in Haverhill, Massachusetts. A modest house was acquired in early 1961 in Jamaica Plain. The house served well until numbers began to grow and more space was needed.
In 1965, Fr Panteleimon and the monastery left the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, accusing it of ecuмenism and modernism, and entered the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.
1970-Present
The current location of the Monastery is a 3-Story Mansion, built in 1881 in Brookline, Massachusetts. The adjoining coach house has been converted to cells to accommodate the monks. The Monastery property is mostly wooded, and is about 19 acres. Some land is set aside for the keeping of goats, which provide milk and cheese for the monks.
Amidst various moral accusations, the monastery left ROCOR, accusing it of modernism and ecuмenism, and went into various Greek Old Calendarist jurisdictions and, finally, into being the principal monastery for the schismatic Holy Orthodox Church in North America.
http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php/Holy_Transfiguration_Monastery_(Brookline,_Massachusetts)?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikinfo.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DHoly_Transfiguration_Monastery_%28Brookline%2C_Massachusetts%29%26redirect%3Dno
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I wouldn't trust it/him.
There is already plenty of good Catholic coverage of the Jєωιѕн Imperialism that is sufficiently scholarly and intelligent.
This guy seems to go out of his way to look like a whacko, which of course makes all people who decry Judaism look like whackos.
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I wouldn't trust it/him.
There is already plenty of good Catholic coverage of the Jєωιѕн Imperialism that is sufficiently scholarly and intelligent.
This guy seems to go out of his way to look like a whacko, which of course makes all people who decry Judaism look like whackos.
Like who?
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I wouldn't trust it/him.
There is already plenty of good Catholic coverage of the Jєωιѕн Imperialism that is sufficiently scholarly and intelligent.
This guy seems to go out of his way to look like a whacko, which of course makes all people who decry Judaism look like whackos.
Like who?
There's E. Michael Jones' Culture Wars: http://www.culturewars.com ; the Maurice Pinay Blog: http://mauricepinay.blogspot.ca/ and (I think he's Catholic) Michael Hoffman's blog, On the Contrary, here: http://revisionistreview.blogspot.ca/ .
All of them are fairly intellectual.
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
The monastery he attended has left ROCOR. Perhaps that has something to do with the way they answered you.
From Mt. Athos to Boston
Fr. Panteleimon, of Greek descent, became a monk on Mt Athos at St. Pantelemon's Monastery. He later joined the New Skete, and with the blessing of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, moved to the Boston area and founded the Holy Transfiguration Monastery.
1960-1970
The monastery was founded in the winter of 1960 in Haverhill, Massachusetts. A modest house was acquired in early 1961 in Jamaica Plain. The house served well until numbers began to grow and more space was needed.
In 1965, Fr Panteleimon and the monastery left the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, accusing it of ecuмenism and modernism, and entered the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.
1970-Present
The current location of the Monastery is a 3-Story Mansion, built in 1881 in Brookline, Massachusetts. The adjoining coach house has been converted to cells to accommodate the monks. The Monastery property is mostly wooded, and is about 19 acres. Some land is set aside for the keeping of goats, which provide milk and cheese for the monks.
Amidst various moral accusations, the monastery left ROCOR, accusing it of modernism and ecuмenism, and went into various Greek Old Calendarist jurisdictions and, finally, into being the principal monastery for the schismatic Holy Orthodox Church in North America.
http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php/Holy_Transfiguration_Monastery_(Brookline,_Massachusetts)?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikinfo.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DHoly_Transfiguration_Monastery_%28Brookline%2C_Massachusetts%29%26redirect%3Dno
Thanks. That is very interesting. One of the possibilities I mentioned was that he was attached so some non-canonical group that is no more Orthodox than Old Catholics are Catholic. It looks like this may be the case.
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I was under the impression that "Old Catholic" priests are recognized as validly ordained even by the novus ordo - if I'm incorrect, please correct.
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I've never heard of "Brother Nathaniel" nor have I ever been to his website. I'll check it out and give my opinion.
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
That is opinion and conjecture, not proof.
A N.O priest might make the same comment about SSPX.
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
The monastery he attended has left ROCOR. Perhaps that has something to do with the way they answered you.
From Mt. Athos to Boston
Fr. Panteleimon, of Greek descent, became a monk on Mt Athos at St. Pantelemon's Monastery. He later joined the New Skete, and with the blessing of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, moved to the Boston area and founded the Holy Transfiguration Monastery.
1960-1970
The monastery was founded in the winter of 1960 in Haverhill, Massachusetts. A modest house was acquired in early 1961 in Jamaica Plain. The house served well until numbers began to grow and more space was needed.
In 1965, Fr Panteleimon and the monastery left the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, accusing it of ecuмenism and modernism, and entered the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.
1970-Present
The current location of the Monastery is a 3-Story Mansion, built in 1881 in Brookline, Massachusetts. The adjoining coach house has been converted to cells to accommodate the monks. The Monastery property is mostly wooded, and is about 19 acres. Some land is set aside for the keeping of goats, which provide milk and cheese for the monks.
Amidst various moral accusations, the monastery left ROCOR, accusing it of modernism and ecuмenism, and went into various Greek Old Calendarist jurisdictions and, finally, into being the principal monastery for the schismatic Holy Orthodox Church in North America.
http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php/Holy_Transfiguration_Monastery_(Brookline,_Massachusetts)?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikinfo.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DHoly_Transfiguration_Monastery_%28Brookline%2C_Massachusetts%29%26redirect%3Dno
So they're schismatics from a schismatic church? :confused1:
Might the same thing happen to some SSPXer's with the new "agreement" with Rome?
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From the OCA
"To whom it may concern:
While I am not sure to which group the individual in question belongs, I do know that it is not the OCA, nor any of the jurisdictions that are represented on the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of North and Central America, the successor to SCOBA. From what little I know of him or can discern from the internet, he belongs to a group based in Colorado that is not in communion with any Assembly-related jurisdiction."
From the patriarchate
"Hello,
This person, a.k.a. Brother Nathaniel, has nothing to do with the Moscow Patriarchate."
He is not a member of ROCOR. He is not a member of the OCA )Or any canonical Orthodox jurisdiction). He is not a member of the Patriarchate. He is not a canonical Russian Orthodox Monk.
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
That is opinion and conjecture, not proof.
A N.O priest might make the same comment about SSPX.
And if he said the SSPX is not canonical, he would be right. That isn't even debatable. The point is, does canonicity matter?
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
The monastery he attended has left ROCOR. Perhaps that has something to do with the way they answered you.
From Mt. Athos to Boston
Fr. Panteleimon, of Greek descent, became a monk on Mt Athos at St. Pantelemon's Monastery. He later joined the New Skete, and with the blessing of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, moved to the Boston area and founded the Holy Transfiguration Monastery.
1960-1970
The monastery was founded in the winter of 1960 in Haverhill, Massachusetts. A modest house was acquired in early 1961 in Jamaica Plain. The house served well until numbers began to grow and more space was needed.
In 1965, Fr Panteleimon and the monastery left the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, accusing it of ecuмenism and modernism, and entered the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.
1970-Present
The current location of the Monastery is a 3-Story Mansion, built in 1881 in Brookline, Massachusetts. The adjoining coach house has been converted to cells to accommodate the monks. The Monastery property is mostly wooded, and is about 19 acres. Some land is set aside for the keeping of goats, which provide milk and cheese for the monks.
Amidst various moral accusations, the monastery left ROCOR, accusing it of modernism and ecuмenism, and went into various Greek Old Calendarist jurisdictions and, finally, into being the principal monastery for the schismatic Holy Orthodox Church in North America.
http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php/Holy_Transfiguration_Monastery_(Brookline,_Massachusetts)?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikinfo.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DHoly_Transfiguration_Monastery_%28Brookline%2C_Massachusetts%29%26redirect%3Dno
So they're schismatics from a schismatic church? :confused1:
Might the same thing happen to some SSPXer's with the new "agreement" with Rome?
I think that might be a good point.
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From ROCOR,
This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.
That is opinion and conjecture, not proof.
A N.O priest might make the same comment about SSPX.
And if he said the SSPX is not canonical, he would be right. That isn't even debatable. The point is, does canonicity matter?
I thought canonicity referred to, if something was a book of the bible or not.
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It does mean that. It can also apply to an religious order or church. The Melkite Catholic Church is a canonical Catholic Church because it is in communion with the Universal Church and the See of Peter. The Order of Friars Minor is a canonical religious order because their constitutions have been approved by legitimate Catholic authority. Since they are an order of pontifical right, they are approved by the Holy See. (An order of diocesan right would be approved by an diocesan bishop.)
The SSPX In not canonical in the sense that it is not approved by either the Pope or a diocesan bishop. They are irregular. Becoming a regular, canonical society is what Bishop Fellay is seeking.
I should acknowledge that my son, who is a Byzantine rite priest, tells me I have overplayed my hand in equating the Orthodox and Catholic idea of canonicity. "In Orthodoxy," he assures me, "Canonical is always what WE are. Uncanonical is what THEY are."
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It does mean that. It can also apply to an religious order or church. The Melkite Catholic Church is a canonical Catholic Church because it is in communion with the Universal Church and the See of Peter. The Order of Friars Minor is a canonical religious order because their constitutions have been approved by legitimate Catholic authority. Since they are an order of pontifical right, they are approved by the Holy See. (An order of diocesan right would be approved by an diocesan bishop.)
The SSPX In not canonical in the sense that it is not approved by either the Pope or a diocesan bishop. They are irregular. Becoming a regular, canonical society is what Bishop Fellay is seeking.
I should acknowledge that my son, who is a Byzantine rite priest, tells me I have overplayed my hand in equating the Orthodox and Catholic idea of canonicity. "In Orthodoxy," he assures me, "Canonical is always what WE are. Uncanonical is what THEY are."
So, do you disagree with his videos?
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Canonical is what canonical says.
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Actually I recently wrote to Brother Kapner and asked him about his status. He referred me to his Bishop, His Grace Jerome of The Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (ROCOR). So, I did. He said that Brother Kapner is indeed an Orthodox Christian and while he is not a full monk, he is a novice, which makes him a monastic.
The bishop made some additional comments about the "context" of Brother Kapner's comments, which I think may have a lot to do with Brother Kapner's "style." I thought those comments were interesting, but not in any way condemning of Brother Kapner.
God Bless :pray:
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The background of ROCOR is fascinating! It was formed in response to the bolshevik takeover of russia, in 1917. In 2007, only 90 years later,
"The Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia officially signed the Act of Canonical Communion with the Moscow Patriarchate on May 17, 2007 restoring the canonical link between the churches. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church_Outside_Russia
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It does mean that. It can also apply to an religious order or church. The Melkite Catholic Church is a canonical Catholic Church because it is in communion with the Universal Church and the See of Peter. The Order of Friars Minor is a canonical religious order because their constitutions have been approved by legitimate Catholic authority. Since they are an order of pontifical right, they are approved by the Holy See. (An order of diocesan right would be approved by an diocesan bishop.)
The SSPX In not canonical in the sense that it is not approved by either the Pope or a diocesan bishop. They are irregular. Becoming a regular, canonical society is what Bishop Fellay is seeking.
I should acknowledge that my son, who is a Byzantine rite priest, tells me I have overplayed my hand in equating the Orthodox and Catholic idea of canonicity. "In Orthodoxy," he assures me, "Canonical is always what WE are. Uncanonical is what THEY are."
So, do you disagree with his videos?
Yes. Profoundly.
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Actually I recently wrote to Brother Kapner and asked him about his status. He referred me to his Bishop, His Grace Jerome of The Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (ROCOR). So, I did. He said that Brother Kapner is indeed an Orthodox Christian and while he is not a full monk, he is a novice, which makes him a monastic.
The bishop made some additional comments about the "context" of Brother Kapner's comments, which I think may have a lot to do with Brother Kapner's "style." I thought those comments were interesting, but not in any way condemning of Brother Kapner.
God Bless :pray:
That is interesting. There is a Bishop Jerome listed as the vicar bishop of the Diocese of Eastern America on the ROCOR website. As nearly as I can figure, a vicar bishop is an auxiliary. Archpriest Serge, whom I contacted for the ROCOR perspective, is the media representative for the same diocese. I am not sure what to think now. If he is a ROCOR monastic, even a novice, he dresses like no eastern monk I have ever seen, Byzantine or Orthodox.
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The background of ROCOR is fascinating! It was formed in response to the bolshevik takeover of russia, in 1917. In 2007, only 90 years later,
"The Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia officially signed the Act of Canonical Communion with the Moscow Patriarchate on May 17, 2007 restoring the canonical link between the churches. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church_Outside_Russia
It is fascinating. I wish some one would write a book about it, one that included everything leading up to the restoration of ecclesiastical communion with the Russian Patriarchate.
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It does mean that. It can also apply to an religious order or church. The Melkite Catholic Church is a canonical Catholic Church because it is in communion with the Universal Church and the See of Peter. The Order of Friars Minor is a canonical religious order because their constitutions have been approved by legitimate Catholic authority. Since they are an order of pontifical right, they are approved by the Holy See. (An order of diocesan right would be approved by an diocesan bishop.)
The SSPX In not canonical in the sense that it is not approved by either the Pope or a diocesan bishop. They are irregular. Becoming a regular, canonical society is what Bishop Fellay is seeking.
I should acknowledge that my son, who is a Byzantine rite priest, tells me I have overplayed my hand in equating the Orthodox and Catholic idea of canonicity. "In Orthodoxy," he assures me, "Canonical is always what WE are. Uncanonical is what THEY are."
So, do you disagree with his videos?
Yes. Profoundly.
What do you disagree with?
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I disagree with what I see as virulent antisemitism that has crossed over into paranoia.
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He is not Orthodox. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox religious garb would no that no Orthodox priest or Monk dresses like that. He may be associated with some uncanonical group that claims to be Orthodox, just as there are Old Catholic independent groups that claim to be Catholic. He is a nutjob. Please ignore him.
More telling rhetoric indicating Sigismund is a crypto-Jew.
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Get those тαℓмυd reading Judaizers and Zionists, Brother Nathanael! :drillsergeant:
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I disagree with what I see as virulent antisemitism that has crossed over into paranoia.
You have to do better than that, just what is "virulent antisemitism" anyway? You know as everybody does who has a clue to the games Jews play with the word "antisemitism" which means whatever they want to mean at that time. Whenever one goes against their agenda in some way or is not on board with what is "good for Jews" is labeled an "antisemite"
But you have a real problem with Br Nathan because he speaks the truth and is a member of the tribe, a double-whammy for god's chosen who have no real answers for this guy other to dismiss him as a "nutjob".
Granted his approach and style seems a little too cinematic or perhaps a little flair for the dramatic, but make no mistake this guy is spot on. I challenge anyone on this forum to rebuke any of the claims or content of his videos other than just calling the man a crazed impostor.
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Must mean that I'm a crypto-Jew too, even though I'm 100% Irish. I see Bro. Nate as being nothing more than a self hating Jew which is pathetic. All he does is spew hatred. If he had any real charity for his fellow Jews he would long for their conversion. His method only alienates them even further.
I trust Bro. Nate as much as I do Vladimir Putin, which is not at all. He clearly seems to have an agenda to promote Russia and Putin in particular as being the big saviors of the world. His infatuation with Putin is beyond bizarre. To be perfectly frank, Putin and Russia are not our friends but rather dangerous enemies. Anyone who has taken the time to study this subject knows that Russia poses a very real strategic threat to America's security.
I'm always suspicious of those who emit retarded NWO and Jєωιѕн cօռspιʀαcιҽs which in my opinion are a load of nonsense. The real danger facing the world is a resurgence of communism which is making great inroads all over the world. Bro. Nate is either a complete stooge or a mole for Russia.
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Must mean that I'm a crypto-Jew too, even though I'm 100% Irish. I see Bro. Nate as being nothing more than a self hating Jew which is pathetic. All he does is spew hatred. If he had any real charity for his fellow Jews he would long for their conversion. His method only alienates them even further.
I trust Bro. Nate as much as I do Vladimir Putin, which is not at all. He clearly seems to have an agenda to promote Russia and Putin in particular as being the big saviors of the world. His infatuation with Putin is beyond bizarre. To be perfectly frank, Putin and Russia are not our friends but rather dangerous enemies. Anyone who has taken the time to study this subject knows that Russia poses a very real strategic threat to America's security.
I'm always suspicious of those who emit retarded NWO and Jєωιѕн cօռspιʀαcιҽs which in my opinion are a load of nonsense. The real danger facing the world is a resurgence of communism which is making great inroads all over the world. Bro. Nate is either a complete stooge or a mole for Russia.
The only thing worse than self-hating Jews and exKGB Russians are whiny Irish liberals, the worst.
The only thing Br Nathaniel is spewing is the truth.
There's nothing wrong with calling snakes, snakes.
Unless you have a problem with Jesus because that's what he called the Pharisees.
He also didn't spend much time trying to convert them either.
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I have explained my views on Jews and antisemitism on several threads on this forum. Do a search if you like. My views are easily accessible, generally well knonn by others here, and not at all popular. I have not time to repeat myself.
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I'm always suspicious of those who emit retarded NWO and Jєωιѕн cօռspιʀαcιҽs which in my opinion are a load of nonsense. The real danger facing the world is a resurgence of communism which is making great inroads all over the world. Bro. Nate is either a complete stooge or a mole for Russia.
Do some research on Jews and the NWO. Then, after it all makes sense to you, come back and we'll try having a serious discussion.
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If the powers-that-be talk about the NWO nonchalantly,& how they are trying to make it happen, how pray tell can anyone doubt it?!!
The devil loves it too when people deny that he exists. The field is wide open then.
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I think it's worth watching this interview Alex Jones had with CNN analyst (and notorious Bohemien Grove member) David Gergen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM
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Kevin McDonald has done interviews with Brother Kapner and they seem to agree on a lot of things.
He's also done internet radio shows with E. Michael Jones and they didn't seem to have any major disagreements.
Brother Kapner's Bishop seemed to imply that Br. Kapner's style was appropriate for his intended audience, which he seemed to imply was jews. I thought that might surprise some people, but it makes sense to me, since jews are often flamboyant and edgy and minority politics is "like that." You know, african comedians will use the n word endlessly, but if a european guy does it, it sets off a media firestorm.
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I disagree with what I see as virulent antisemitism that has crossed over into paranoia.
Israeli Minister: "We always use the 'anti-Semitism' trick or bring up the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst'" to silence people. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpikU5iGC9A)
Jєωιѕн girl with fake tears gets ripped by Dr. Norman Finkelstein when she tries to criticize him. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5drXEXkf9s&feature=fvwrel)
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Brother Nate is not telling us anything new about some Jews, this information has been already well known for ages. It shouldn't come as a shock to anyone that some bad apples can be found amongst the Jews. However this is true about every race, religion and ethnic group under the sun. Evil greedy people exist everywhere and its unfair to single out the Jews and cast all the blame for the worlds woes on them. There is ample evidence that many Gentiles are working against the best interests of the common good. The vast majority of Jews are not conspiring to overturn civilization in order to bring about a Jєωιѕн utopia. I'd wager to be that most Jews are completely unaware of what's contained in the тαℓмυd.
As for Brother Nate, I really don't believe that he's a stooge or an agent of Russia, I think he's just eccentric. I can understand why he feels the way he does considering that he was raised Jєωιѕн and familiar with the ѕуηαgσgυє. Once a Jєωιѕн person converts to Christianity, often their family and friends disown them, they consider them as being dead. Often times they hold sitting shiva (sp) ceremonies for them. Perhaps this explains Brother Nates bitterness.
Thorn - I don't doubt that there is a conspiracy to bring about change in the world model, however, its not the NWO but rather Communism. You should read the article I posted in the resistance section about what the NWO really is.
SpiritusSanctus - Sorry, Alex Jones has no credibility in my book. Haven't listened to him in years.
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Thorn - I don't doubt that there is a conspiracy to bring about change in the world model, however, its not the NWO but rather Communism. You should read the article I posted in the resistance section about what the NWO really is.
The NWO supports Communism. No one is interested in reading that article because the man who wrote it doesn't know what he's talking about.
SpiritusSanctus - Sorry, Alex Jones has no credibility in my book. Haven't listened to him in years.
This isn't about his credibility. He interviewed David Gergen, who got mad when Jones asked him about Bohemien Grove.
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Aleric said:
I believe outside of Bp Williamson no true Roman Catholic clergy has had the shadow of a chance of telling the truth about тαℓмυdic Judaism. Or even the courage to try for that matter
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Thats not true at all. Bishop Mark Pivarunus spoke about the Jews at a conference a few years ago. As a result, St Michaels Church in Spokane is on the Southern Poverty Law centers lists of racist groups.
Bishop Williamson is courageous, thats true, but hes not the only one who sees and speaks about the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan.
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Aleric said:
I believe outside of Bp Williamson no true Roman Catholic clergy has had the shadow of a chance of telling the truth about тαℓмυdic Judaism. Or even the courage to try for that matter
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Thats not true at all. Bishop Mark Pivarunus spoke about the Jews at a conference a few years ago. As a result, St Michaels Church in Spokane is on the Southern Poverty Law centers lists of racist groups.
Bishop Williamson is courageous, thats true, but hes not the only one who sees and speaks about the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan.
Well now, isn't that special.......I wonder if Bro. Nate is on their list as well.
Enquiring minds want to know.
Isn't is funny when anyone speaks against what a Jews is doing , all of the sudden they're put on the "list". I mean, these are the same people who scream about "persecution", nαzι's and "hate".
The Jews are full of chutzpah and for you clueless goy who are oblivious to the meaning of this, it means that they are notoriously guilty of the very thing they are accusing you of, kind of like beating you over the head while he screams out in pain, classic false victimization. It's been their M.O for ever and the brain-dead nonJєωιѕн sheeple fall for it every time. The more things change, the more they stay the same, except god's chosen, they become more brazen and full of hubris until the times comes for the next "h0Ɩ0cαųst" or pogrom that comes down the pike from a culture that can no longer stomach their infection and regurgitates them with extreme prejudice. It's a never ending cycle that will continue until God finally, once and for all, puts an end to it.
Until then, they will truly be our misfortune.
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I heard a description that has stuck in my mind ever since.
You are walking down the street in New York and you see a man wearing a black suit and a tall black hat, with a long beard and "fringes" dangling from his coat, who approaches another man walking toward him. He begins to speak accusations and confrontations to the man he meets, and then suddenly the man with the hat slaps the other man on the face, while he demands, vociferously, that the other man cease slapping him on the face (but the other man is not doing the slapping!). The man with the black hat continues to shout accusations, and slaps the other again, erupting with further demands that he stop slapping him (but he isn't slapping him). From an observational point, it appears that the accused is simply confused and doesn't know what to do about the situation. Finally, a foot officer interrupts, whereupon the man with the black hat claims that he was simply minding his own business when this other man walked up and started attacking him on the street, but the other man says, "no, that's what happened to me, not to him," etc. The policeman doesn't know what to make of it either, since he's trained to take the testimony of the first one to speak up, which was the man in the black hat.
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I heard a description that has stuck in my mind ever since.
You are walking down the street in New York and you see a man wearing a black suit and a tall black hat, with a long beard and "fringes" dangling from his coat, who approaches another man walking toward him. He begins to speak accusations and confrontations to the man he meets, and then suddenly the man with the hat slaps the other man on the face, while he demands, vociferously, that the other man cease slapping him on the face (but the other man is not doing the slapping!). The man with the black hat continues to shout accusations, and slaps the other again, erupting with further demands that he stop slapping him (but he isn't slapping him). From an observational point, it appears that the accused is simply confused and doesn't know what to do about the situation. Finally, a foot officer interrupts, whereupon the man with the black hat claims that he was simply minding his own business when this other man walked up and started attacking him on the street, but the other man says, "no, that's what happened to me, not to him," etc. The policeman doesn't know what to make of it either, since he's trained to take the testimony of the first one to speak up, which was the man in the black hat.
" The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you".
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The guys a nutjob, here's an article about him before he became a "Russian Orthodox"
Profiles of the Homeless
The Clergy's Charge
By David Abel
Globe Staff
12/27/2002
BROOKLINE -- When he first showed up a few months ago, the bearded man in the bright Sephardic yarmulke stood out from the ѕуηαgσgυє's other congregants. For one thing, he carried a crucifix. During services, he constantly walked in and out of the sanctuary. And after the rabbi's sermons, the former salesman would clap - a no-no in any temple.
At Young Israel of Brookline, the first impulse of most congregants was to help Milton Kapner, a 52-year-old fellow Jew who had been living in his green Buick since the summer. The rabbi welcomed him to services, answered his questions in classes, and bought him a membership to a health spa so he could shower. Others offered him clothes or took him out for dinners at nice restaurants. One woman even gave him a place to stay for the night.
But after a few months - when, temple officials say, he harassed congregants, crashed a wedding, and twice forced them to call the police - they barred him from the ѕуηαgσgυє. Most recently, Kapner, who plays music for money in Harvard Square, stood in front of the temple and heckled congregants as they arrived for services.
"We don't know what to do with him," said Jerry Baronofsky, the orthodox ѕуηαgσgυє's president, who has sought help from Jєωιѕн Family and Children's Services, a social-services provider. "We want to help him, but the truth is we're not sure the best way to go about it."
It's a quandary common to many churches and ѕуηαgσgυєs: As more needy people seek shelter and sustenance from religious institutions, where does a congregation draw the line between its interests, whether it be security or order in the sanctuary, and its mission to help the poor?
Clergy members at churches and ѕуηαgσgυєs throughout the area say they've seen a rise in the number of needy people, many of them homeless, who slip in for meals after services or sit quietly to stay warm for a while.
For the most part, unless they're disruptive, the needy are welcomed, or at least tolerated. Some of the major churches in downtown Boston even have street ministries, special outreach offices for the homeless. On Tremont Street, the Episcopal Cathedral of St. Paul, for example, provides pastoral counseling, referral services, and a telephone to those in need.
Not all churches or ѕуηαgσgυєs are as welcoming. In some cases, those scruffy, loud newcomers who aren't members or are deemed to be dressed inappropriately are turned away at the door.
"They won't let them in either because of past problems or because they anticipate the person isn't going to behave within the norms of the institution," said the Rev. Deborah W. Little, who founded Common Cathedral, an outdoor worshipping community of about 150 homeless people in Boston. "It's not always easy to find the right balance."
At St. Paul's, long a draw for the homeless, church officials had to hire a security guard because so many people crowded onto their porch, either to sleep or do drugs. Recently, after someone rubbed feces on the wall of one of the bathrooms, they decided to review an old policy of allowing the homeless to use the toilet.
"Many of the homeless are members of our congregation in good standing," said the Rev. Sarah Fike of St. Paul's. "But sometimes it can be a struggle with maintaining as much openness as possible and the necessary safety and cleanliness. Our kids, after all, need clean bathrooms."
The Arlington Street Church, which also attracts many homeless, especially to its Friday night "supper club," has a special policy for those who disrupt services. When someone disrupts repeatedly, said associate minister Carol Strecker, church officials approach the person and ask them to agree to a verbal contract. Often, in order to stay, the person must consent to therapy sessions and to allow a church member to sit next to them during services.
Sometimes, however, no matter how hard church officials try, the disruptive person is beyond help - and can be a threat to the congregation.
At the Park Street Church, one homeless man reached into the collection basket and instead of adding a donation, he grabbed all the cash. Church officials called the police.
At the Ruggles Baptist Church on Beacon Street, according to the Rev. Larry Showalter, one woman insisted on remaining after hours to play the piano. When church officials asked her to leave, she refused. When they banned her from entering, she began stalking them, demanding they let her in to play the piano. After she violated a restraining order, police arrested her and sent her to jail for six months.
"It's sad when there's nothing you can do to help," Showalter said.
For the congregants of Young Israel, which like many ѕуηαgσgυєs is increasingly security-conscious since Sept. 11, Milton Kapner never posed a physical threat. But the fast-talking guest, who told congregants he graduated from Columbia University and lost his home in Needham, began making people feel uncomfortable, even chasing some away from services.
"The truth is he was welcome here, as long as he followed the rules," said Robert Wolff, the ѕуηαgσgυє's former president. "But after a while, people lost their patience."
Approached recently at the McDonald's on Harvard Street, where he often cajoles people to buy him a free meal, Kapner refused to speak. In a previous phone interview, he complained: "I've been excommunicated. It's the worst thing that can happen to a Jew."
A few days later, after a crossing guard reported Kapner was endangering himself walking through traffic on Washington Street, he ambled into Brookline District Court and started screaming, police said. Health officials decided to commit him to a hospital, where he will stay until doctors release him.
"Maybe this is the best thing for him," said Baronofsky, Young Israel's president. "Hopefully, it will help."
David Abel can be reached at dabel@globe.com.
Copyright, The Boston Globe
posted by David Abel
http://davidabel2.blogspot.ca/2005/05/clergys-charge.html
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The guy is mentally ill, that's about it, it's quite easy to have a few facts straight when you generally talk about jews holding power.
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The guys a nutjob, here's an article about him before he became a "Russian Orthodox"
Profiles of the Homeless
The Clergy's Charge
By David Abel
Globe Staff
12/27/2002
BROOKLINE -- When he first showed up a few months ago, the bearded man in the bright Sephardic yarmulke stood out from the ѕуηαgσgυє's other congregants. For one thing, he carried a crucifix. During services, he constantly walked in and out of the sanctuary. And after the rabbi's sermons, the former salesman would clap - a no-no in any temple.
At Young Israel of Brookline, the first impulse of most congregants was to help Milton Kapner, a 52-year-old fellow Jew who had been living in his green Buick since the summer. The rabbi welcomed him to services, answered his questions in classes, and bought him a membership to a health spa so he could shower. Others offered him clothes or took him out for dinners at nice restaurants. One woman even gave him a place to stay for the night.
But after a few months - when, temple officials say, he harassed congregants, crashed a wedding, and twice forced them to call the police - they barred him from the ѕуηαgσgυє. Most recently, Kapner, who plays music for money in Harvard Square, stood in front of the temple and heckled congregants as they arrived for services.
"We don't know what to do with him," said Jerry Baronofsky, the orthodox ѕуηαgσgυє's president, who has sought help from Jєωιѕн Family and Children's Services, a social-services provider. "We want to help him, but the truth is we're not sure the best way to go about it."
It's a quandary common to many churches and ѕуηαgσgυєs: As more needy people seek shelter and sustenance from religious institutions, where does a congregation draw the line between its interests, whether it be security or order in the sanctuary, and its mission to help the poor?
Clergy members at churches and ѕуηαgσgυєs throughout the area say they've seen a rise in the number of needy people, many of them homeless, who slip in for meals after services or sit quietly to stay warm for a while.
For the most part, unless they're disruptive, the needy are welcomed, or at least tolerated. Some of the major churches in downtown Boston even have street ministries, special outreach offices for the homeless. On Tremont Street, the Episcopal Cathedral of St. Paul, for example, provides pastoral counseling, referral services, and a telephone to those in need.
Not all churches or ѕуηαgσgυєs are as welcoming. In some cases, those scruffy, loud newcomers who aren't members or are deemed to be dressed inappropriately are turned away at the door.
"They won't let them in either because of past problems or because they anticipate the person isn't going to behave within the norms of the institution," said the Rev. Deborah W. Little, who founded Common Cathedral, an outdoor worshipping community of about 150 homeless people in Boston. "It's not always easy to find the right balance."
At St. Paul's, long a draw for the homeless, church officials had to hire a security guard because so many people crowded onto their porch, either to sleep or do drugs. Recently, after someone rubbed feces on the wall of one of the bathrooms, they decided to review an old policy of allowing the homeless to use the toilet.
"Many of the homeless are members of our congregation in good standing," said the Rev. Sarah Fike of St. Paul's. "But sometimes it can be a struggle with maintaining as much openness as possible and the necessary safety and cleanliness. Our kids, after all, need clean bathrooms."
The Arlington Street Church, which also attracts many homeless, especially to its Friday night "supper club," has a special policy for those who disrupt services. When someone disrupts repeatedly, said associate minister Carol Strecker, church officials approach the person and ask them to agree to a verbal contract. Often, in order to stay, the person must consent to therapy sessions and to allow a church member to sit next to them during services.
Sometimes, however, no matter how hard church officials try, the disruptive person is beyond help - and can be a threat to the congregation.
At the Park Street Church, one homeless man reached into the collection basket and instead of adding a donation, he grabbed all the cash. Church officials called the police.
At the Ruggles Baptist Church on Beacon Street, according to the Rev. Larry Showalter, one woman insisted on remaining after hours to play the piano. When church officials asked her to leave, she refused. When they banned her from entering, she began stalking them, demanding they let her in to play the piano. After she violated a restraining order, police arrested her and sent her to jail for six months.
"It's sad when there's nothing you can do to help," Showalter said.
For the congregants of Young Israel, which like many ѕуηαgσgυєs is increasingly security-conscious since Sept. 11, Milton Kapner never posed a physical threat. But the fast-talking guest, who told congregants he graduated from Columbia University and lost his home in Needham, began making people feel uncomfortable, even chasing some away from services.
"The truth is he was welcome here, as long as he followed the rules," said Robert Wolff, the ѕуηαgσgυє's former president. "But after a while, people lost their patience."
Approached recently at the McDonald's on Harvard Street, where he often cajoles people to buy him a free meal, Kapner refused to speak. In a previous phone interview, he complained: "I've been excommunicated. It's the worst thing that can happen to a Jew."
A few days later, after a crossing guard reported Kapner was endangering himself walking through traffic on Washington Street, he ambled into Brookline District Court and started screaming, police said. Health officials decided to commit him to a hospital, where he will stay until doctors release him.
"Maybe this is the best thing for him," said Baronofsky, Young Israel's president. "Hopefully, it will help."
David Abel can be reached at dabel@globe.com.
Copyright, The Boston Globe
posted by David Abel
http://davidabel2.blogspot.ca/2005/05/clergys-charge.html
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The guy is mentally ill, that's about it, it's quite easy to have a few facts straight when you generally talk about jews holding power.
So, what's your opinion of what he has to say in his videos? What do you think of his overall message?
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His overall message is so broad, it's going to hit some points obviously. It's just a shame to see people actually look up to him as some kind of martyr. I can't take the guy seriously. I simply can't take a formerly homeless mentally ill jews word, especially one that is so promoted and not censored by the internet, like alot of other people are that talk about the things he does. He simply restates alot of stuff that people already know, or if they didn't know, he's about the last person I'd ever say go listen to this guy and what he's saying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUWK-WaLSOE
I wouldn't say he's any kind of double agent, I'd simply say he's mentally ill
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The guys a nutjob, here's an article about him before he became a "Russian Orthodox"
Profiles of the Homeless
The Clergy's Charge
By David Abel
Globe Staff
12/27/2002
BROOKLINE -- When he first showed up a few months ago, the bearded man in the bright Sephardic yarmulke stood out from the ѕуηαgσgυє's other congregants. For one thing, he carried a crucifix. During services, he constantly walked in and out of the sanctuary. And after the rabbi's sermons, the former salesman would clap - a no-no in any temple.
At Young Israel of Brookline, the first impulse of most congregants was to help Milton Kapner, a 52-year-old fellow Jew who had been living in his green Buick since the summer. The rabbi welcomed him to services, answered his questions in classes, and bought him a membership to a health spa so he could shower. Others offered him clothes or took him out for dinners at nice restaurants. One woman even gave him a place to stay for the night.
But after a few months - when, temple officials say, he harassed congregants, crashed a wedding, and twice forced them to call the police - they barred him from the ѕуηαgσgυє. Most recently, Kapner, who plays music for money in Harvard Square, stood in front of the temple and heckled congregants as they arrived for services.
"We don't know what to do with him," said Jerry Baronofsky, the orthodox ѕуηαgσgυє's president, who has sought help from Jєωιѕн Family and Children's Services, a social-services provider. "We want to help him, but the truth is we're not sure the best way to go about it."
It's a quandary common to many churches and ѕуηαgσgυєs: As more needy people seek shelter and sustenance from religious institutions, where does a congregation draw the line between its interests, whether it be security or order in the sanctuary, and its mission to help the poor?
Clergy members at churches and ѕуηαgσgυєs throughout the area say they've seen a rise in the number of needy people, many of them homeless, who slip in for meals after services or sit quietly to stay warm for a while.
For the most part, unless they're disruptive, the needy are welcomed, or at least tolerated. Some of the major churches in downtown Boston even have street ministries, special outreach offices for the homeless. On Tremont Street, the Episcopal Cathedral of St. Paul, for example, provides pastoral counseling, referral services, and a telephone to those in need.
Not all churches or ѕуηαgσgυєs are as welcoming. In some cases, those scruffy, loud newcomers who aren't members or are deemed to be dressed inappropriately are turned away at the door.
"They won't let them in either because of past problems or because they anticipate the person isn't going to behave within the norms of the institution," said the Rev. Deborah W. Little, who founded Common Cathedral, an outdoor worshipping community of about 150 homeless people in Boston. "It's not always easy to find the right balance."
At St. Paul's, long a draw for the homeless, church officials had to hire a security guard because so many people crowded onto their porch, either to sleep or do drugs. Recently, after someone rubbed feces on the wall of one of the bathrooms, they decided to review an old policy of allowing the homeless to use the toilet.
"Many of the homeless are members of our congregation in good standing," said the Rev. Sarah Fike of St. Paul's. "But sometimes it can be a struggle with maintaining as much openness as possible and the necessary safety and cleanliness. Our kids, after all, need clean bathrooms."
The Arlington Street Church, which also attracts many homeless, especially to its Friday night "supper club," has a special policy for those who disrupt services. When someone disrupts repeatedly, said associate minister Carol Strecker, church officials approach the person and ask them to agree to a verbal contract. Often, in order to stay, the person must consent to therapy sessions and to allow a church member to sit next to them during services.
Sometimes, however, no matter how hard church officials try, the disruptive person is beyond help - and can be a threat to the congregation.
At the Park Street Church, one homeless man reached into the collection basket and instead of adding a donation, he grabbed all the cash. Church officials called the police.
At the Ruggles Baptist Church on Beacon Street, according to the Rev. Larry Showalter, one woman insisted on remaining after hours to play the piano. When church officials asked her to leave, she refused. When they banned her from entering, she began stalking them, demanding they let her in to play the piano. After she violated a restraining order, police arrested her and sent her to jail for six months.
"It's sad when there's nothing you can do to help," Showalter said.
For the congregants of Young Israel, which like many ѕуηαgσgυєs is increasingly security-conscious since Sept. 11, Milton Kapner never posed a physical threat. But the fast-talking guest, who told congregants he graduated from Columbia University and lost his home in Needham, began making people feel uncomfortable, even chasing some away from services.
"The truth is he was welcome here, as long as he followed the rules," said Robert Wolff, the ѕуηαgσgυє's former president. "But after a while, people lost their patience."
Approached recently at the McDonald's on Harvard Street, where he often cajoles people to buy him a free meal, Kapner refused to speak. In a previous phone interview, he complained: "I've been excommunicated. It's the worst thing that can happen to a Jew."
A few days later, after a crossing guard reported Kapner was endangering himself walking through traffic on Washington Street, he ambled into Brookline District Court and started screaming, police said. Health officials decided to commit him to a hospital, where he will stay until doctors release him.
"Maybe this is the best thing for him," said Baronofsky, Young Israel's president. "Hopefully, it will help."
David Abel can be reached at dabel@globe.com.
Copyright, The Boston Globe
posted by David Abel
http://davidabel2.blogspot.ca/2005/05/clergys-charge.html
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The guy is mentally ill, that's about it, it's quite easy to have a few facts straight when you generally talk about jews holding power.
LOL. This article was written by a Jew. He's lying and trying to discredit Brother Nathanael. That's what Jews do - they lie... and they smear people who expose their subversion, corruption, deception, manipulation, etc.
And that ad hominem of a video you posted showing Br Nat dancing with a cross proves nothing about him, although, I do disagree with Br Nat's demeanor there, yet there is nothing sinful about what he did there. It only shows what some people might consider an "eccentric" person using unorthodox methods to attract people to his message that exposes the Jews and Zionists.
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So, anyone who says anything bad about Jews, no matter how clearly mentally ill they are, has instant credibility?
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So, anyone who says anything bad about Jews, no matter how clearly mentally ill they are, has instant credibility?
who the hell says he's "mentally ill".......you? Or Abe Foxman?
That's the classic excuse for anyone who condemns anything about Judaics, all of the sudden they have a "mental disorder".
Well you know what Sigge, I've got news for you, most of тαℓмυdic Judaism is a mental disorder, that's the point. Many Jews have all kinds of psychological issues as well as moral one's, that religion breeds insanity, yet with their interior compunction to project their chutzpah, they accuse everyone else what their guilty of, things like mental illness and "hate".
Instead of feeling good for Bro Nathaniel breaking the cycle and escaping the ʝʊdɛօ-sphere you would rather condemn and reject him as nothing less than a "nutjob", yet you or not one poster on this thread can produce a single rebuttal for anything he has said in his videos.
So I challenge you and others to show us that this Russian Orthodox is in error anywhere, especially when it comes to the chosen.
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His overall message is so broad, it's going to hit some points obviously. It's just a shame to see people actually look up to him as some kind of martyr. I can't take the guy seriously. I simply can't take a formerly homeless mentally ill jews word, especially one that is so promoted and not censored by the internet, like alot of other people are that talk about the things he does. He simply restates alot of stuff that people already know, or if they didn't know, he's about the last person I'd ever say go listen to this guy and what he's saying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUWK-WaLSOE
I wouldn't say he's any kind of double agent, I'd simply say he's mentally ill
I like him myself, but he's like Ramzpaul, you can't help but get sick of the guy. Or that other guy, DrinkingWithBob. Look at Robin Williams. How could you say Br. Nathanael is any crazier than him? It's not like Bishop Williamson, who you could listen to for a couple hours a day and never get tired of him. Still, they have their place.
He reminds me of David Cole. Some whiney Jєωιѕн kid, who acts like a girl. Who wants to watch that? Aren't their better men to challenge the h0Ɩ0cαųst? Sure, but they aren't Jєωιѕн!
So, if you're a jew and you challenge Jєωιѕн power, it makes you important; it makes you "somebody."
Wow, even right wing white guys, can't help but give jews affirmative action :jester:
Anyway though, guys like him are kind of heroes to the cause. So, if you support that cause, you should probably show them more respect, than you have been. Even if you think they are a bit "off the wall."
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Oh, and brother nathanael is not a "jew" anymore, he's a christian.
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So, anyone who says anything bad about Jews, no matter how clearly mentally ill they are, has instant credibility?
who the hell says he's "mentally ill".......you? Or Abe Foxman?
That's the classic excuse for anyone who condemns anything about Judaics, all of the sudden they have a "mental disorder".
Well you know what Sigge, I've got news for you, most of тαℓмυdic Judaism is a mental disorder, that's the point. Many Jews have all kinds of psychological issues as well as moral one's, that religion breeds insanity, yet with their interior compunction to project their chutzpah, they accuse everyone else what their guilty of, things like mental illness and "hate".
Instead of feeling good for Bro Nathaniel breaking the cycle and escaping the ʝʊdɛօ-sphere you would rather condemn and reject him as nothing less than a "nutjob", yet you or not one poster on this thread can produce a single rebuttal for anything he has said in his videos.
So I challenge you and others to show us that this Russian Orthodox is in error anywhere, especially when it comes to the chosen.
I am not a mental health professional. Maybe this sort of bizarre behavior is consistent with sanity. To my non-clinical, non-professional eye, however, he looks pretty unbalanced.
I have only watched two of his videos. I have no intention of watching more. In them, he made lots of statements of opinion, but backed these opinions up with very little evidence for me or anyone else to refute.
I don't think Brother Nathaniel is actually Russian Orthodox at all, given that no Russian Orthodox jurisdiction I contacted would claim him. However, if he is, the fact that he is Orthodox and not Catholic means he is "in error" about quite a lot.
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This Bro. Nathaniel looks pretty strange to me.
However, the Jews foster hatred of non-Jews in all their literature, sacred and profane so it's really only natural that this would be noticed by even people who are outside the mainstream.
Just like Popes are to be guardians of the deposit of faith, we as Catholics are to be guardians of our souls and anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear can figure out pretty quickly that the Jєωιѕн people in general wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if their activities caused a "gentile" to become condemned. Harsh words, but true.
Pray for the Jews that they can renounce their spiritual wretchedness.
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LOL. This article was written by a Jew. He's lying and trying to discredit Brother Nathanael. That's what Jews do - they lie... and they smear people who expose their subversion, corruption, deception, manipulation, etc.
Regardless if it was written by a jew, it was written before he was even "brother" Nathanael, so what is your point? This was written before when he was a homeless jew still going to the ѕуηαgσgυє, and committed to a psych ward by his rabbi.
It's quite scary how a jew can be thrown out by his fellow jews and then be accepted as a Monk, or he sometimes declares himself a subdeacon, yet there is no proof that backs up his lies. I find it hilarious and scary at the same time that you think a jew can un jew himself overnight and speak about some common topics that everyone already knows about and you rabidly support him. There's nothing new that he's saying, plus I find it questionable how a bunch of people like Frederick Toben will get locked up and censored, where as he's given free reign. But then again, he looks like such a nutter, he does more damage then good in the end, which is why he's probably allowed free reign in his websites. Like if you went from being a homeless jew to a fake Catholic αnтι-ѕємιтє and got to live in a house on the condition you uploaded youtube videos and operated a website, I'd really question the reason why he's doing all this. I remember when I first came across him he was spouting that the war in the balkans as the beginning of WW3, and yet we still aren't there. I also don't understand what Ramzpaul has to do with Milton L. Kapner other than they both upload youtube videos, but Ramzpaul is actually entertaining and you can tell when he's joking.
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LOL. This article was written by a Jew. He's lying and trying to discredit Brother Nathanael. That's what Jews do - they lie... and they smear people who expose their subversion, corruption, deception, manipulation, etc.
Regardless if it was written by a jew, it was written before he was even "brother" Nathanael, so what is your point? This was written before when he was a homeless jew still going to the ѕуηαgσgυє, and committed to a psych ward by his rabbi.
It's quite scary how a jew can be thrown out by his fellow jews and then be accepted as a Monk, or he sometimes declares himself a subdeacon, yet there is no proof that backs up his lies. I find it hilarious and scary at the same time that you think a jew can un jew himself overnight and speak about some common topics that everyone already knows about and you rabidly support him. There's nothing new that he's saying, plus I find it questionable how a bunch of people like Frederick Toben will get locked up and censored, where as he's given free reign. But then again, he looks like such a nutter, he does more damage then good in the end, which is why he's probably allowed free reign in his websites. Like if you went from being a homeless jew to a fake Catholic αnтι-ѕємιтє and got to live in a house on the condition you uploaded youtube videos and operated a website, I'd really question the reason why he's doing all this. I remember when I first came across him he was spouting that the war in the balkans as the beginning of WW3, and yet we still aren't there. I also don't understand what Ramzpaul has to do with Milton L. Kapner other than they both upload youtube videos, but Ramzpaul is actually entertaining and you can tell when he's joking.
He was a Christian before this fabrication of an article was written... that's my point. Prove to me he was a "homeless Jew" at that time. You can't do it because he was a Christian at that time, AND he was not homeless. The Jew author Abel utterly lied about Br Nat.
If you question the authenticity of Br Nat being an Orthodox monastic novice, all you have to do is write his Patriarch/Bishop (whatever the Orthodox are called), and he will confirm to you Br Nat is one of them and in good standing. What would prevent you from writing him? Discovering the truth?
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...... in fact, Brother Nathanael lived a monastic communal life from 1996-2005. Afterwards, he has been engaged in a public mission through his Street Evangelism efforts and as an Internet publicist. So, I'm mistaken when I called him a "novice". Also, if he was living in an Orthodox Christian monastic community in 2002, then how could he have been "homeless" and "attending a ѕуηαgσgυє", and subsequently "sent to a psych ward"?
Again, if you don't believe he was an Orthodox monk in 2002, then write his superior to confirm it. He is with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia. Write him.
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LOL. This article was written by a Jew. He's lying and trying to discredit Brother Nathanael. That's what Jews do - they lie... and they smear people who expose their subversion, corruption, deception, manipulation, etc.
Regardless if it was written by a jew, it was written before he was even "brother" Nathanael, so what is your point? This was written before when he was a homeless jew still going to the ѕуηαgσgυє, and committed to a psych ward by his rabbi.
It's quite scary how a jew can be thrown out by his fellow jews and then be accepted as a Monk, or he sometimes declares himself a subdeacon, yet there is no proof that backs up his lies. I find it hilarious and scary at the same time that you think a jew can un jew himself overnight and speak about some common topics that everyone already knows about and you rabidly support him. There's nothing new that he's saying, plus I find it questionable how a bunch of people like Frederick Toben will get locked up and censored, where as he's given free reign. But then again, he looks like such a nutter, he does more damage then good in the end, which is why he's probably allowed free reign in his websites. Like if you went from being a homeless jew to a fake Catholic αnтι-ѕємιтє and got to live in a house on the condition you uploaded youtube videos and operated a website, I'd really question the reason why he's doing all this. I remember when I first came across him he was spouting that the war in the balkans as the beginning of WW3, and yet we still aren't there. I also don't understand what Ramzpaul has to do with Milton L. Kapner other than they both upload youtube videos, but Ramzpaul is actually entertaining and you can tell when he's joking.
He was a Christian before this fabrication of an article was written... that's my point. Prove to me he was a "homeless Jew" at that time. You can't do it because he was a Christian at that time, AND he was not homeless. The Jew author Abel utterly lied about Br Nat.
If you question the authenticity of Br Nat being an Orthodox monastic novice, all you have to do is write his Patriarch/Bishop (whatever the Orthodox are called), and he will confirm to you Br Nat is one of them and in good standing. What would prevent you from writing him? Discovering the truth?
I contacted The Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia, the Orthodox Church in America, and the patriarchal Russian Orthodox hierarchy in the US. All stated that he was not a monastic associated with them, His garb is also not what an Orthodox monk would wear. The white hat is clearly something he threw together. Russian Orthodox priests wear pectoral crosses. Monks who are not priests do not, even i they are "subdeacons."
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LOL. This article was written by a Jew. He's lying and trying to discredit Brother Nathanael. That's what Jews do - they lie... and they smear people who expose their subversion, corruption, deception, manipulation, etc.
Regardless if it was written by a jew, it was written before he was even "brother" Nathanael, so what is your point? This was written before when he was a homeless jew still going to the ѕуηαgσgυє, and committed to a psych ward by his rabbi.
It's quite scary how a jew can be thrown out by his fellow jews and then be accepted as a Monk, or he sometimes declares himself a subdeacon, yet there is no proof that backs up his lies. I find it hilarious and scary at the same time that you think a jew can un jew himself overnight and speak about some common topics that everyone already knows about and you rabidly support him. There's nothing new that he's saying, plus I find it questionable how a bunch of people like Frederick Toben will get locked up and censored, where as he's given free reign. But then again, he looks like such a nutter, he does more damage then good in the end, which is why he's probably allowed free reign in his websites. Like if you went from being a homeless jew to a fake Catholic αnтι-ѕємιтє and got to live in a house on the condition you uploaded youtube videos and operated a website, I'd really question the reason why he's doing all this. I remember when I first came across him he was spouting that the war in the balkans as the beginning of WW3, and yet we still aren't there. I also don't understand what Ramzpaul has to do with Milton L. Kapner other than they both upload youtube videos, but Ramzpaul is actually entertaining and you can tell when he's joking.
He was a Christian before this fabrication of an article was written... that's my point. Prove to me he was a "homeless Jew" at that time. You can't do it because he was a Christian at that time, AND he was not homeless. The Jew author Abel utterly lied about Br Nat.
If you question the authenticity of Br Nat being an Orthodox monastic novice, all you have to do is write his Patriarch/Bishop (whatever the Orthodox are called), and he will confirm to you Br Nat is one of them and in good standing. What would prevent you from writing him? Discovering the truth?
I contacted The Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia, the Orthodox Church in America, and the patriarchal Russian Orthodox hierarchy in the US. All stated that he was not a monastic associated with them, His garb is also not what an Orthodox monk would wear. The white hat is clearly something he threw together. Russian Orthodox priests wear pectoral crosses. Monks who are not priests do not, even i they are "subdeacons."
I contacted his bishop and he said he was an orthodox from rocor. You never checked up on that. So, you should shut up.
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Actually I did. The office of the First Hierarch, their metropolitan, said otherwise. I don't know why you were told what you were told, and I do not doubt your word, but I am going with the information I was given. Perhaps he was affiliated with ROCOR at one time. As I recall, I asked if he was a ROCOR monk now.
I will however shut up abut it because I have nothing new to say.
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Actually I did. The office of the First Hierarch, their metropolitan, said otherwise. I don't know why you were told what you were told, and I do not doubt your word, but I am going with the information I was given. Perhaps he was affiliated with ROCOR at one time. As I recall, I asked if he was a ROCOR monk now.
I will however shut up abut it because I have nothing new to say.
O.k., so you don't think I'm lying, you just think his bishop, from rocor is lying! Did it ever occur to you that maybe the guy you talked to was wrong? After all, he isn't as close to Br. Nathanael as the bishop that I emailed. And, to be fair, I asked Br. Nathanael what his status was and he referred me to his bishop. So, it stands to reason that maybe the guy you talked to wasn't aware.
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That is certainly possible. I think it is unlikely that the metropolitan would not know such things, but it could be that the person I talked to simply did not know and lacked the time or motivation to investigate further.
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That is certainly possible. I think it is unlikely that the metropolitan would not know such things, but it could be that the person I talked to simply did not know and lacked the time or motivation to investigate further.
I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop. In regards to br. nathanael's perceived "oddness," that seems easily explained, given his apparent background. So, I wouldn't see any reason to doubt the bishop. And, seeing how many people are so offended by br. nathanael, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks weren't anxious to associate themselves with him.
Also, I've noticed how some people successfully market themselves, by appearing "different" from everyone else. He's certainly distinguished himself, in that regard. So, that might have something to do with his success. I don't see anything particularly wrong with it, provided it is restricted to certain venues (like not for a sunday morning sermon).
Also, people like jeff rense (for example), seem to use oddness as a shield. It's hard to imagine anybody treating jeff rense as badly as ernst zundel or bishop williamson were treated, precisely because he portrays himself as a nut! :laugh1: I can't really fault a guy for that.
Still, with your background, I can see how you might be inclined to think br. nathanael is a fake and perhaps even has a malicious agenda.
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I may not agree with Sigismund on The Jєωιѕн Question, I happen to agree with most other members here on principles; though I do believe there can be obsession on the issue- when the focus becomes more about Jew's than Jesus Christ, there's a problem. Its good to know about who the Banksters are; who controls the media and how it corrupts our children; etc.
However, I wanted to say that I am disgusted by the utter vitriol spewed here. I understand we disagree with him, but Sigismund, in disagreeing with who this Brother Nathaniel is (or isn't- frankly I'd never heard of him until now), did so in a charitable manner- citing what he knew to be factual and logical. He also cited sources from e-mails he'd received from Orthodox officials only to be responded to with "put up or shut up" saying he was spewing "damn calumny".
Give me a break.
On behalf of Trad's, Sigismund- I'm sorry for these obtuse comments you find on here....
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I may not agree with Sigismund on The Jєωιѕн Question, I happen to agree with most other members here on principles; though I do believe there can be obsession on the issue- when the focus becomes more about Jew's than Jesus Christ, there's a problem. Its good to know about who the Banksters are; who controls the media and how it corrupts our children; etc.
However, I wanted to say that I am disgusted by the utter vitriol spewed here. I understand we disagree with him, but Sigismund, in disagreeing with who this Brother Nathaniel is (or isn't- frankly I'd never heard of him until now), did so in a charitable manner- citing what he knew to be factual and logical. He also cited sources from e-mails he'd received from Orthodox officials only to be responded to with "put up or shut up" saying he was spewing "damn calumny".
Give me a break.
On behalf of Trad's, Sigismund- I'm sorry for these obtuse comments you find on here....
I think you see mountains, where there are only ant hills. Of course, i've held grudges against other myself in the past. All i can say is, you'd be better off without it. :pray:
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I think you see mountains, where there are only ant hills. Of course, i've held grudges against other myself in the past. All i can say is, you'd be better off without it. :pray:
Don't worry Marcelino- there are no grudges here- not by a long shot. The only grudge I hold is against error and erronious thinking that is formed by internet videos and fora; the thinking which is not led by a father confessor and prayer. But thank you for the advice.
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I think you see mountains, where there are only ant hills. Of course, i've held grudges against other myself in the past. All i can say is, you'd be better off without it. :pray:
Don't worry Marcelino- there are no grudges here- not by a long shot. The only grudge I hold is against error and erronious thinking that is formed by internet videos and fora; the thinking which is not led by a father confessor and prayer. But thank you for the advice.
I think you are in "denial"/ De-Nile is not a river in egypt :laugh1:
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I think you see mountains, where there are only ant hills. Of course, i've held grudges against other myself in the past. All i can say is, you'd be better off without it. :pray:
Don't worry Marcelino- there are no grudges here- not by a long shot. The only grudge I hold is against error and erronious thinking that is formed by internet videos and fora; the thinking which is not led by a father confessor and prayer. But thank you for the advice.
I think you are in "denial"/ De-Nile is not a river in egypt :laugh1:
I think you're obtuse. Obtuse isn't an angle :fryingpan:
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I may not agree with Sigismund on The Jєωιѕн Question, I happen to agree with most other members here on principles; though I do believe there can be obsession on the issue- when the focus becomes more about Jew's than Jesus Christ, there's a problem. Its good to know about who the Banksters are; who controls the media and how it corrupts our children; etc.
However, I wanted to say that I am disgusted by the utter vitriol spewed here. I understand we disagree with him, but Sigismund, in disagreeing with who this Brother Nathaniel is (or isn't- frankly I'd never heard of him until now), did so in a charitable manner- citing what he knew to be factual and logical. He also cited sources from e-mails he'd received from Orthodox officials only to be responded to with "put up or shut up" saying he was spewing "damn calumny".
Give me a break.
On behalf of Trad's, Sigismund- I'm sorry for these obtuse comments you find on here....
Well, I haven't seen any "sources" about any of the misinfo we were spoon fed about BN legitimacy. Maybe i'm wrong, but i'm not going back eight pages to verify it, so he should produce actual emails to back himself up to prove BN isn't affiliated with the ROCOR. Otherwise like Marcelino said, stuff a sock in it.
And speaking of "calumny", you don't seem to have a problem with some on here bashing BN credibility without a shred of evidence, other than he's some kind of "nutjob".
Whatever this ex-Jew affiliation with the OC is irrelevant to me, the point is he is exposing тαℓмυdic Jews for their usurping ways when no one else has the balls to do it, so, he's OK in my book.
And I don't want to hear anything about him being a "schismatic" which has nothing to do with what he's doing and he damn sure doesn't touch about any theological issues or attacks Rome in his videos. So give it a rest.
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I have visited www.mauricepinay.com in regards to this topic
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Well, I haven't seen any "sources" about any of the misinfo we were spoon fed about BN legitimacy. Maybe i'm wrong, but i'm not going back eight pages to verify it, so he should produce actual emails to back himself up to prove BN isn't affiliated with the ROCOR. Otherwise like Marcelino said, stuff a sock in it.
And speaking of "calumny", you don't seem to have a problem with some on here bashing BN credibility without a shred of evidence, other than he's some kind of "nutjob".
Whatever this ex-Jew affiliation with the OC is irrelevant to me, the point is he is exposing тαℓмυdic Jews for their usurping ways when no one else has the balls to do it, so, he's OK in my book.
And I don't want to hear anything about him being a "schismatic" which has nothing to do with what he's doing and he damn sure doesn't touch about any theological issues or attacks Rome in his videos. So give it a rest.
As expected, you've missed the entire point; your lack of charity because of your lack of ability to discuss the issue with out being so emotional is evidence of why. And, frankly, you give him too much credit as being the only one to have "the balls" to expose Jews. Ever hear of the man, 'Bishop Williamson'?
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Don't pull the "charity" card on my mister innocent, I'm fresh out.
Yes Bp Williamson has done his share questioning the holahoax, but this guy BN really gets to the core of the Jєωιѕн onslaught on Church and culture.
And this drives the Zio-philes nuts.
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I think you are in "denial"/ De-Nile is not a river in egypt :laugh1:
Feminists trads and ethnic Catholics (the type whose families would stop attending mass at any church over a perceived slight) are in deep denial about the the antagonism of their values and motivations with the Catholic religion.
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Don't pull the "charity" card on my mister innocent, I'm fresh out.
Yes Bp Williamson has done his share questioning the holahoax, but this guy BN really gets to the core of the Jєωιѕн onslaught on Church and culture.
And this drives the Zio-philes nuts.
The guy doesn't even claim to be Catholic.. what church are you talking about?
You are really a mole here.
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I think you are in "denial"/ De-Nile is not a river in egypt :laugh1:
Feminists trads and ethnic Catholics (the type whose families would stop attending mass at any church over a perceived slight) are in deep denial about the the antagonism of their values and motivations with the Catholic religion.
Why do you bring up an issue like this Telesphorous? My parents made a mistake which I'd brought up on this forum, and you are retelling it here? Why? Aren't you the one who claims that people wrong you because they so often bring up "the issue"? I will pray for you to stop being such a Trad-pharasiee.
And what this has to do with ethnicity is anyones guess....?
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And what this has to do with ethnicity is anyones guess....?
Well in terms of ethnicity and gender Hispanic gangs are most definitely mysogynist. :smirk:
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And what this has to do with ethnicity is anyones guess....?
Well in terms of ethnicity and gender Hispanic gangs are most definitely mysogynist. :smirk:
And this is relevant to the discussion how?
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And this is relevant to the discussion how?
I just felt like mentioning it. :wink:
Anyway...in terms of Bishop Williamson while he was brave to take a stand like that there is a lot more to the Jews than just doubts about the h0Ɩ0cαųst, their role in cultural Marxism for instance.
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And this is relevant to the discussion how?
I just felt like mentioning it. :wink:
Anyway...in terms of Bishop Williamson while he was brave to take a stand like that there is a lot more to the Jews than just doubts about the h0Ɩ0cαųst, their role in cultural Marxism for instance.
Calling someone a "mole" for thinking Br. Nathanael has important things to say is ridiculous.
That is Raoul-style paranoia.
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And this is relevant to the discussion how?
I just felt like mentioning it. :wink:
Anyway...in terms of Bishop Williamson while he was brave to take a stand like that there is a lot more to the Jews than just doubts about the h0Ɩ0cαųst, their role in cultural Marxism for instance.
Calling someone a "mole" for thinking Br. Nathanael has important things to say is ridiculous.
That is Raoul-style paranoia.
Huh. Ya that is really rediculous. Who ever would call someone a "mole" because Br Nathanael has important things to say clearly doesn't know what they're talking about!
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And this is relevant to the discussion how?
I just felt like mentioning it. :wink:
Anyway...in terms of Bishop Williamson while he was brave to take a stand like that there is a lot more to the Jews than just doubts about the h0Ɩ0cαųst, their role in cultural Marxism for instance.
Bishop Williamson certainly knows there's more to the Jews than the h0Ɩ0h0αx. You're not giving him enough credit.
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I never said he didn't, I said there are more to the Jews.
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Don't pull the "charity" card on my mister innocent, I'm fresh out.
Yes Bp Williamson has done his share questioning the holahoax, but this guy BN really gets to the core of the Jєωιѕн onslaught on Church and culture.
And this drives the Zio-philes nuts.
The guy doesn't even claim to be Catholic.. what church are you talking about?
You are really a mole here.
What's that have to do with anything? Even if he's Orthodox, he still talking about the Church universal ( See Catholic), the body of Christ which is being attacked by carnivorous Judaics.
The very same group which you seem to go out of your way to protect and derail the discussion about, if anyone's a mole here, it's you.
Or something that rhymes with mole.
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Don't pull the "charity" card on my mister innocent, I'm fresh out.
Yes Bp Williamson has done his share questioning the holahoax, but this guy BN really gets to the core of the Jєωιѕн onslaught on Church and culture.
And this drives the Zio-philes nuts.
The guy doesn't even claim to be Catholic.. what church are you talking about?
You are really a mole here.
What's that have to do with anything? Even if he's Orthodox, he still talking about the Church universal ( See Catholic), the body of Christ which is being attacked by carnivorous Judaics.
The very same group which you seem to go out of your way to protect and derail the discussion about, if anyone's a mole here, it's you.
Or something that rhymes with mole.
Good point!, but in the end, I don't think he cares. I think what he's on about, is a personal grudge he's been nursing.
In a way, it's easy to see why he and telesphosphorous get into it, because they both seem like the type to get "stuck in a rut." Of course, the only reason i know anything about that, is because i can be even worse.
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I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop.
Wow, the fact he had to refer you to a particular Bishop didn't set off any red flags? You can really find out alot about this guy simply by searching his real name on the internet,
http://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=toolbar-instant&hl=en&ion=1&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enCA386CA386#hl=en&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enCA386CA386&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=milton%20l.%20kapner&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=f16e275ddabd83c&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1382&bih=715
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MinistersOfTheGospelOnline/message/6382
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My dear brothers and sisters,
I was in an Orthodox monastery in Boston for 6 years, but then, not
knowing what I was getting into, went to a more "secluded" Orthodox
Christian monastery in the mountains of Buena Vista CO.
To let you all know more about this monastery that was actually
a "cult," here is an excerpt of a letter I sent off to the
Government Officials and Churches of Buena Vista CO. (I left
this "cult-monastery" in July of 2005.)
- March 4 2006
TO THE GOVERMENT AND CHURCH OFFICIALS OF BUENA VISTA COLORADO
I write this affirmation as A WARNING for all who might entertain
joining Dormition Skete Monastery or Archbishop Gregory's 'church,'
that they would be joining A CULT.
Taking full responsibility for the following statements, I now list
my reasons for this, my testimony, of cultic-activities with respect
to archbishop Gregory and his operations:
1) I, Sub Deacon Nathaniel Kapner, (Milton L Kapner), was a member
of Dormition Skete Monastery from February 1, 2004 until June 25,
2005, when priest-monk Peter Wheeler put me in Jail for stealing my
own "monk's uniform," (I produced a letter to the police afterwards
of proof of my ownership), and Archbishbp Gregory fully supported
him!
2) Archbishbp. Gregory instills "fear" into his monks, "nun," and
parishioners, by stating that he, by virtue of his office as
a "right-confessing" bishop, is the only true 'church' left on
earth. Thus, if a monk, nun, or parishioner should entertain leaving
him, he or she fears that he or she is doomed to Hell! ...
[END OF EXCERPT]
I invite you all to visit my Live Journal @
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/ for a fuller expose' of how
an Orthodox Monastery, (which I believe can serve a very good
purpost if run according to Orthodox rules), can become a cult!
--
Brother Nathanael +monk
"WARNING! THIS MONASTERY IS A CULT!" @
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/
(scroll down one article for more "cultic activity")
Number 2 there sounds just like the SSPX, if you aren't a part of the true Catholic faith then your doomed to hell basically. Gotta love the online Ministers of the internets.
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I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop.
Wow, the fact he had to refer you to a particular Bishop didn't set off any red flags? You can really find out alot about this guy simply by searching his real name on the internet,
http://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=toolbar-instant&hl=en&ion=1&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enCA386CA386#hl=en&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enCA386CA386&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=milton%20l.%20kapner&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=f16e275ddabd83c&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1382&bih=715
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MinistersOfTheGospelOnline/message/6382
I WAS IN AN ORTHODOX MONASTERY CULT! Topic List < Prev Topic | Next Topic >
Reply < Prev Message | Next Message >
My dear brothers and sisters,
I was in an Orthodox monastery in Boston for 6 years, but then, not
knowing what I was getting into, went to a more "secluded" Orthodox
Christian monastery in the mountains of Buena Vista CO.
To let you all know more about this monastery that was actually
a "cult," here is an excerpt of a letter I sent off to the
Government Officials and Churches of Buena Vista CO. (I left
this "cult-monastery" in July of 2005.)
- March 4 2006
TO THE GOVERMENT AND CHURCH OFFICIALS OF BUENA VISTA COLORADO
I write this affirmation as A WARNING for all who might entertain
joining Dormition Skete Monastery or Archbishop Gregory's 'church,'
that they would be joining A CULT.
Taking full responsibility for the following statements, I now list
my reasons for this, my testimony, of cultic-activities with respect
to archbishop Gregory and his operations:
1) I, Sub Deacon Nathaniel Kapner, (Milton L Kapner), was a member
of Dormition Skete Monastery from February 1, 2004 until June 25,
2005, when priest-monk Peter Wheeler put me in Jail for stealing my
own "monk's uniform," (I produced a letter to the police afterwards
of proof of my ownership), and Archbishbp Gregory fully supported
him!
2) Archbishbp. Gregory instills "fear" into his monks, "nun," and
parishioners, by stating that he, by virtue of his office as
a "right-confessing" bishop, is the only true 'church' left on
earth. Thus, if a monk, nun, or parishioner should entertain leaving
him, he or she fears that he or she is doomed to Hell! ...
[END OF EXCERPT]
I invite you all to visit my Live Journal @
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/ for a fuller expose' of how
an Orthodox Monastery, (which I believe can serve a very good
purpost if run according to Orthodox rules), can become a cult!
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Brother Nathanael +monk
"WARNING! THIS MONASTERY IS A CULT!" @
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/
(scroll down one article for more "cultic activity")
Number 2 there sounds just like the SSPX, if you aren't a part of the true Catholic faith then your doomed to hell basically. Gotta love the online Ministers of the internets.
I got the bishop's email address directly from ROCOR. So, no that didn't "set off any red flags."
In regards to the rest, i'm not sure what your point is, but maybe i just don't "get it."
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I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop.
Wow, the fact he had to refer you to a particular Bishop didn't set off any red flags? You can really find out alot about this guy simply by searching his real name on the internet,
http://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=toolbar-instant&hl=en&ion=1&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enCA386CA386#hl=en&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADRA_enCA386CA386&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=milton%20l.%20kapner&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=f16e275ddabd83c&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1382&bih=715
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MinistersOfTheGospelOnline/message/6382
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My dear brothers and sisters,
I was in an Orthodox monastery in Boston for 6 years, but then, not
knowing what I was getting into, went to a more "secluded" Orthodox
Christian monastery in the mountains of Buena Vista CO.
To let you all know more about this monastery that was actually
a "cult," here is an excerpt of a letter I sent off to the
Government Officials and Churches of Buena Vista CO. (I left
this "cult-monastery" in July of 2005.)
- March 4 2006
TO THE GOVERMENT AND CHURCH OFFICIALS OF BUENA VISTA COLORADO
I write this affirmation as A WARNING for all who might entertain
joining Dormition Skete Monastery or Archbishop Gregory's 'church,'
that they would be joining A CULT.
Taking full responsibility for the following statements, I now list
my reasons for this, my testimony, of cultic-activities with respect
to archbishop Gregory and his operations:
1) I, Sub Deacon Nathaniel Kapner, (Milton L Kapner), was a member
of Dormition Skete Monastery from February 1, 2004 until June 25,
2005, when priest-monk Peter Wheeler put me in Jail for stealing my
own "monk's uniform," (I produced a letter to the police afterwards
of proof of my ownership), and Archbishbp Gregory fully supported
him!
2) Archbishbp. Gregory instills "fear" into his monks, "nun," and
parishioners, by stating that he, by virtue of his office as
a "right-confessing" bishop, is the only true 'church' left on
earth. Thus, if a monk, nun, or parishioner should entertain leaving
him, he or she fears that he or she is doomed to Hell! ...
[END OF EXCERPT]
I invite you all to visit my Live Journal @
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/ for a fuller expose' of how
an Orthodox Monastery, (which I believe can serve a very good
purpost if run according to Orthodox rules), can become a cult!
--
Brother Nathanael +monk
"WARNING! THIS MONASTERY IS A CULT!" @
http://sbn-nathanael.livejournal.com/
(scroll down one article for more "cultic activity")
Number 2 there sounds just like the SSPX, if you aren't a part of the true Catholic faith then your doomed to hell basically. Gotta love the online Ministers of the internets.
Andjew, why don't you get these "letters" from Br Nathanael's official websites such as Real Jew News and The Brother Nathanael Foundation? Is it because they don't exist?
Another thing, although SSPX believe Christians outside the Catholic faith are in defect and a far less perfect road to salvation than the true Catholic Faith, the SSPX believe in salvation outside the Catholic faith, too, as long as they are Christians who believe and serve Christ, and they're not in the state of mortal sin.
Andjew, you don't have any facts. The only thing you have contributed here is disinformation.
"The greatest thing about the internet is you can quote something and just make up the source" ~ Thomas Jefferson
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That is certainly possible. I think it is unlikely that the metropolitan would not know such things, but it could be that the person I talked to simply did not know and lacked the time or motivation to investigate further.
I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop. In regards to br. nathanael's perceived "oddness," that seems easily explained, given his apparent background. So, I wouldn't see any reason to doubt the bishop. And, seeing how many people are so offended by br. nathanael, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks weren't anxious to associate themselves with him.
Also, I've noticed how some people successfully market themselves, by appearing "different" from everyone else. He's certainly distinguished himself, in that regard. So, that might have something to do with his success. I don't see anything particularly wrong with it, provided it is restricted to certain venues (like not for a sunday morning sermon).
Also, people like jeff rense (for example), seem to use oddness as a shield. It's hard to imagine anybody treating jeff rense as badly as ernst zundel or bishop williamson were treated, precisely because he portrays himself as a nut! :laugh1: I can't really fault a guy for that.
Still, with your background, I can see how you might be inclined to think br. nathanael is a fake and perhaps even has a malicious agenda.
My background?
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I may not agree with Sigismund on The Jєωιѕн Question, I happen to agree with most other members here on principles; though I do believe there can be obsession on the issue- when the focus becomes more about Jew's than Jesus Christ, there's a problem. Its good to know about who the Banksters are; who controls the media and how it corrupts our children; etc.
However, I wanted to say that I am disgusted by the utter vitriol spewed here. I understand we disagree with him, but Sigismund, in disagreeing with who this Brother Nathaniel is (or isn't- frankly I'd never heard of him until now), did so in a charitable manner- citing what he knew to be factual and logical. He also cited sources from e-mails he'd received from Orthodox officials only to be responded to with "put up or shut up" saying he was spewing "damn calumny".
Give me a break.
On behalf of Trad's, Sigismund- I'm sorry for these obtuse comments you find on here....
Well, I haven't seen any "sources" about any of the misinfo we were spoon fed about BN legitimacy. Maybe i'm wrong, but i'm not going back eight pages to verify it, so he should produce actual emails to back himself up to prove BN isn't affiliated with the ROCOR. Otherwise like Marcelino said, stuff a sock in it.
And speaking of "calumny", you don't seem to have a problem with some on here bashing BN credibility without a shred of evidence, other than he's some kind of "nutjob".
Whatever this ex-Jew affiliation with the OC is irrelevant to me, the point is he is exposing тαℓмυdic Jews for their usurping ways when no one else has the balls to do it, so, he's OK in my book.
And I don't want to hear anything about him being a "schismatic" which has nothing to do with what he's doing and he damn sure doesn't touch about any theological issues or attacks Rome in his videos. So give it a rest.
I did not save the actual emails. I had no trouble believing that Marcelino was accurately and honestly representing wheat he was told by the Orthodox bishop he contacted even though it was inconsistent with what a ROCOR Archpriest told me. I don't mind if you think the information I posted was in error. It may have been. I do mind if you are accusing me of dishonesty.
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I may not agree with Sigismund on The Jєωιѕн Question, I happen to agree with most other members here on principles; though I do believe there can be obsession on the issue- when the focus becomes more about Jew's than Jesus Christ, there's a problem. Its good to know about who the Banksters are; who controls the media and how it corrupts our children; etc.
However, I wanted to say that I am disgusted by the utter vitriol spewed here. I understand we disagree with him, but Sigismund, in disagreeing with who this Brother Nathaniel is (or isn't- frankly I'd never heard of him until now), did so in a charitable manner- citing what he knew to be factual and logical. He also cited sources from e-mails he'd received from Orthodox officials only to be responded to with "put up or shut up" saying he was spewing "damn calumny".
Give me a break.
On behalf of Trad's, Sigismund- I'm sorry for these obtuse comments you find on here....
Well, I haven't seen any "sources" about any of the misinfo we were spoon fed about BN legitimacy. Maybe i'm wrong, but i'm not going back eight pages to verify it, so he should produce actual emails to back himself up to prove BN isn't affiliated with the ROCOR. Otherwise like Marcelino said, stuff a sock in it.
And speaking of "calumny", you don't seem to have a problem with some on here bashing BN credibility without a shred of evidence, other than he's some kind of "nutjob".
Whatever this ex-Jew affiliation with the OC is irrelevant to me, the point is he is exposing тαℓмυdic Jews for their usurping ways when no one else has the balls to do it, so, he's OK in my book.
And I don't want to hear anything about him being a "schismatic" which has nothing to do with what he's doing and he damn sure doesn't touch about any theological issues or attacks Rome in his videos. So give it a rest.
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I may not agree with Sigismund on The Jєωιѕн Question, I happen to agree with most other members here on principles; though I do believe there can be obsession on the issue- when the focus becomes more about Jew's than Jesus Christ, there's a problem. Its good to know about who the Banksters are; who controls the media and how it corrupts our children; etc.
However, I wanted to say that I am disgusted by the utter vitriol spewed here. I understand we disagree with him, but Sigismund, in disagreeing with who this Brother Nathaniel is (or isn't- frankly I'd never heard of him until now), did so in a charitable manner- citing what he knew to be factual and logical. He also cited sources from e-mails he'd received from Orthodox officials only to be responded to with "put up or shut up" saying he was spewing "damn calumny".
Give me a break.
On behalf of Trad's, Sigismund- I'm sorry for these obtuse comments you find on here....
Thank you.
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Don't pull the "charity" card on my mister innocent, I'm fresh out.
Well, I would say that is pretty clear.
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That is certainly possible. I think it is unlikely that the metropolitan would not know such things, but it could be that the person I talked to simply did not know and lacked the time or motivation to investigate further.
I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop. In regards to br. nathanael's perceived "oddness," that seems easily explained, given his apparent background. So, I wouldn't see any reason to doubt the bishop. And, seeing how many people are so offended by br. nathanael, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks weren't anxious to associate themselves with him.
Also, I've noticed how some people successfully market themselves, by appearing "different" from everyone else. He's certainly distinguished himself, in that regard. So, that might have something to do with his success. I don't see anything particularly wrong with it, provided it is restricted to certain venues (like not for a sunday morning sermon).
Also, people like jeff rense (for example), seem to use oddness as a shield. It's hard to imagine anybody treating jeff rense as badly as ernst zundel or bishop williamson were treated, precisely because he portrays himself as a nut! :laugh1: I can't really fault a guy for that.
Still, with your background, I can see how you might be inclined to think br. nathanael is a fake and perhaps even has a malicious agenda.
My background?
I thought you said your son was an orthodox priest.
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Maybe Sigismund and Brother Nathaniel are one and the same?
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:jester:
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That is certainly possible. I think it is unlikely that the metropolitan would not know such things, but it could be that the person I talked to simply did not know and lacked the time or motivation to investigate further.
I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop. In regards to br. nathanael's perceived "oddness," that seems easily explained, given his apparent background. So, I wouldn't see any reason to doubt the bishop. And, seeing how many people are so offended by br. nathanael, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks weren't anxious to associate themselves with him.
Also, I've noticed how some people successfully market themselves, by appearing "different" from everyone else. He's certainly distinguished himself, in that regard. So, that might have something to do with his success. I don't see anything particularly wrong with it, provided it is restricted to certain venues (like not for a sunday morning sermon).
Also, people like jeff rense (for example), seem to use oddness as a shield. It's hard to imagine anybody treating jeff rense as badly as ernst zundel or bishop williamson were treated, precisely because he portrays himself as a nut! :laugh1: I can't really fault a guy for that.
Still, with your background, I can see how you might be inclined to think br. nathanael is a fake and perhaps even has a malicious agenda.
No. My son is Byzantine Catholic priest.
My background?
I thought you said your son was an orthodox priest.
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That is certainly possible. I think it is unlikely that the metropolitan would not know such things, but it could be that the person I talked to simply did not know and lacked the time or motivation to investigate further.
I would be inclined to think that, because his bishop seemed to know exactly who he was and he seemed to know a lot about him. Also, Br. Nathanael referred me to the bishop. In regards to br. nathanael's perceived "oddness," that seems easily explained, given his apparent background. So, I wouldn't see any reason to doubt the bishop. And, seeing how many people are so offended by br. nathanael, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks weren't anxious to associate themselves with him.
Also, I've noticed how some people successfully market themselves, by appearing "different" from everyone else. He's certainly distinguished himself, in that regard. So, that might have something to do with his success. I don't see anything particularly wrong with it, provided it is restricted to certain venues (like not for a sunday morning sermon).
Also, people like jeff rense (for example), seem to use oddness as a shield. It's hard to imagine anybody treating jeff rense as badly as ernst zundel or bishop williamson were treated, precisely because he portrays himself as a nut! :laugh1: I can't really fault a guy for that.
Still, with your background, I can see how you might be inclined to think br. nathanael is a fake and perhaps even has a malicious agenda.
My background?
I thought you said your son was an orthodox priest.
No. My son is a Byzantine Rite Catholic priest.
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Maybe Sigismund and Brother Nathaniel are one and the same?
Well, no one has ever seen the two of us together. :laugh1:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGT_hrHeGEw&feature=player_embedded#!
Here's an "unorthodox" means of reaching out to people with a message also.
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"I may not agree with Sigismund on The Jєωιѕн Question, I happen to agree with most other members here on principles; though I do believe there can be obsession on the issue- when the focus becomes more about Jew's than Jesus Christ, there's a problem. Its good to know about who the Banksters are; who controls the media and how it corrupts our children; etc.
However, I wanted to say that I am disgusted by the utter vitriol spewed here. I understand we disagree with him, but Sigismund, in disagreeing with who this Brother Nathaniel is (or isn't- frankly I'd never heard of him until now), did so in a charitable manner- citing what he knew to be factual and logical. He also cited sources from e-mails he'd received from Orthodox officials only to be responded to with "put up or shut up" saying he was spewing "damn calumny".
Give me a break."
Obsession?
We are at war and have been, with Jewry. (se: THE PLOT AGAINST THE CHURCH-Maurice Pinay) -link to it online & Free. Written by high ranking clergy as a warning to attending Vatican 2 Bishops.
http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/
KNOWING your enemy requires steadfeast knowledge and/or obsession of their ways, degeneracy, more or lack thereof and subversion.
In addition to Banking, Jews control our Media, Government, Law, Military, Education, Abortion, Marxism, Feminism, Pornography, Organ Trafficking, and most importantly, the destruction of our Faith.
They were directly involved in helping sponsor and write NOSRA AETATE which undermined our Faith post Vatican 2.
Im a fan of Brother Kapner, I hope he converts to Catholicism eventually if not sooner.
Im also a fan of other noteable Self hating Jews like: Bobby Fisher, Benjamin Freedman, Norman Finklestein, Schlomo Sands, Arthur Koestler, David Cole et al
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGT_hrHeGEw&feature=player_embedded#!
Here's an "unorthodox" means of reaching out to people with a message also.
Would they have arrested him if he was saying the same things about catholics? How about the white race? How about blacks? How about men? How about women?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGT_hrHeGEw&feature=player_embedded#!
Here's an "unorthodox" means of reaching out to people with a message also.
You mean he's a Jew like Bro Nate too?
Although I suspect he's Norvus Ordo wearing that Elmo suit. :wink:
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Why Israel is a threat to world peace. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fuIXc74Zn0&list=UUtBqVgzL_cDv_t9o2hFiXXg&index=1&feature=plcp)
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Brother Nathanael is a heretic and we should not support his "ministry" in any way. He needs our prayers for conversion to the True Catholic faith.
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Brother Nathanael is a heretic and we should not support his "ministry" in any way. He needs our prayers for conversion to the True Catholic faith.
We should support anyone telling the truth when it comes to the Jews, heretic or not.
Besides, none of his videos have anything to do with bashing the true faith.
Maybe some "catholic" clergy can grow a pair and start telling everyone what;s really going on between the Judaics and the Church.
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We should support anyone telling the truth when it comes to the Jews, heretic or not..
If he can't even know the truth of faith how do we know he tells the truth about the Jews?
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We should support anyone telling the truth when it comes to the Jews, heretic or not..
If he can't even know the truth of faith how do we know he tells the truth about the Jews?
First of all, Orthodox are not heretics, their schismatics.
And many people who don't know the truth of the faith have the Jews pinned for what they are. But unlike most modern day "christians", they have the guts to express it and in some cases even do something about it.
This man speaks the truth about the Jew, he was a Jew and knows all about their agenda and tactics. But you, like most people, do not want to deal with the obvious facts that he proclaims but would rather αssαssιnαtҽ his character as a "heretic".
This is the MO of the Christian these days when it comes to those who expose the Jews and their lies, it's all about attacking other Christians for daring to speak out against their тαℓмυdic masters.
The Christian has become nothing better than a self-hating, pathetic, spiritual weakling.
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This man speaks the truth
Taken from article about the real Milton Kapner (http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20060908/NEWS/109080054)
SILVERTHORNE - "I'm not here to save anybody," says Milton Kapner, which seems like only a half-truth on this Tuesday morning. He holds a crucifix in his left hand and, with his right, waves to a man driving a diesel truck through the busiest intersection in Summit County. Kapner, who also goes by "Brother Nathaniel," wears a black robe, white gloves and a pair of well-kept New Balance running shoes. The diesel driver honks and waves back.
"Today's a little quiet," he explains. "Some days, it gets quite noisy."
If you've seen him, you would remember. Since December, four days a week, Kapner has strolled down Highway 9 in Silverthorne, strutting with his crucifix like a boombox in Harlem. He spins, twirls, waves, flashes peace signs and raises his fist like the revolution is only days away. He starts around 7 a.m. and finishes two hours later.
Brother Nathaniel, 56, then spends the rest of the day in his Leadville home, in quiet, unless he wants to head downhill in the evenings to inspire those caught in rush hour. Overall, while it's quiet he desires, it's the same quiet he's spent most of the past few years resisting ... that, and our PC nation.
A salesman in Pittsburgh
Milton was born on Sept. 5, 1950, to Solomon and Rebecca Kapner, both Jєωιѕн, but both accepting of other ideas. In the Bible, Solomon, whose name means "Messenger of God" in Hebrew, was given beauty in exchange for his acts of faith. The gift, for the Kapners, was a middle-class house in a mixed suburb in Pittsburgh. Poor, black, white, Christian - neighbors were neighbors and the term "politically correct" had yet to reach its tentacles into middle America.
Religion was a Sunday activity and, every day, Milton said the Lord's Prayer before school started.
Even during Christmas, Milton would join his Catholic friends in going door-to-door, singing Christmas carols.
"And here I was, supposed to be this Jєωιѕн kid," he joked.
Kapner gained an early affinity for Christmas songs, despite his own religion's views that Christmas, well, was based on a lie. His father didn't help. On Christmas, when most kids were tripping over themselves to open gifts, his father would put on Ed Ames' "Oh Holy Night" and ask the whole family to join in on the melody, when Ames would belt out, "Fall on your knees ..."
This obscure devotion ultimately would be the spark for a major conversion in Milton's life, and help guide him toward the Highway 9 street corner he stands on today.
In 1968, during the Summer of Love, along with a few million other people his age, Kapner followed the counter-culture movement. He left Pittsburgh, grew out his hair and a beard, and decided to study music composition at the Art Institute of California. He played guitar in a rock band called "Rebecca and the Sunnybrook Farmers," which benefited from some choice contacts made at the music school. Between 1968 and 1971, the band opened for Jethro Tull, Alice Cooper, and Blood, Sweat and Tears, to name a few. A review from a West Coast magazine called the psychedelic feel, "Eclectic, almost to a fault."
"I had met Frank Zappa before he died," Kapner said. "He was a genius. I admire Hendrix, too, the way he wore all those colors (my emphasis). This was the generation we lived in. Now, the kids and the bands all wear black," he said, pointing to his own garment. "Are they depressed?"
Right on cue, he met the love of his life, a violinist named Ilene Novig. She refused to marry him, however, so Kapner looked East and away from California. Alone and searching, he cut his hair, shaved his beard and, as he put it, "started groping to find something."
With the spiritual momentum of the psychedelic movement long faded, Kapner moved back to Pittsburgh and took a job selling industrial chemicals, fertilizers, paints, cleaners ... anything to help a factory stay clean. Along the way, he also became active in "Jews for Jesus", whose goal is to convince Jews that Jesus is the Messiah, and landed a huge account, U.S. Steel.
As a salesman, he set his own hours, met his quota and earned a six-figure salary. "I was good," he said. "I did this for 25 years and met people from all walks of life. I had a very broad customer base - Christians, atheists, blacks, whites. I guess I learned through that, you better treat people as individuals."
In Pittsburgh, he joined a few friends on the street handing out information about Jews for Jesus, or Messianic Jews. "I was dedicated, but I still had a day job," he said. Still searching, Kapner decided he needed to try the East Coast. California and Pittsburgh would only be stops along his spiritual quest, not the destination.
In 1987, he transferred to a new job in Boston working as a salesman for State Chemical Company. "That's when things really started happening for me," Kapner said. "I wanted a challenge and Boston seemed to be more exciting. I lived right next door to Paul Revere's park on Salem Street."
There, he opened big accounts with the electrical companies and continued to build up a healthy lifestyle. He was heralded for his work with big money but, just when he was reaching the peak of his career, he dropped all of it - the money, the job, the city he lived in, and his friends, including Jews for Jesus.
A monk in Colorado
In 1988, a refreshed Kapner found himself under water. In the gothic hallways of the Russian Orthodox Christian Church, he discovered his spiritual home and asked to be baptized.
"There was a mystical event that entered into me," he said. "Something internally changed inside me. Be quiet. Go deeper into Christ. Be still. Let it come over you. Be receptive. Don't be a salesman ..."
That idea, "Don't be a salesman," distracted him enough that he spent the next four years losing his accounts, missing financial goals and, along the way, coming to an understanding with himself. When the day finally came, he gave his notice at work. One of the company's best salesmen wanted to become a monk.
"You're a salesman. Pray on Sundays," they'd quip.
"I'm just not into it," he'd reply.
So in 1992, Kapner joined the Transfiguration Monastery in Brookline, Mass., which had 30 monks and controlled all aspects of his life. At 7 a.m., they started work on religious pictures and other goods they would sell to fund the monastery. Instead of selling industrial cleaners, he made incense.
"It brought me back to the hippie days," he explained. "It was like living on a commune." Each day, he would attend a service at 4 p.m., which was followed by a meal at 6 p.m. A midnight liturgy usually lasted until 4 a.m., after which the monk would rest until rising again at 7 a.m.
The routine, however, didn't fit his developing personality, so he moved on. Father Isaac, the head of the Brookline monastery, would only call him "eccentric," when interviewed for the story; he wouldn't comment any further. Brother Nathaniel doesn't deny the eccentric claim.
"I moved to a new monastery in Buena Vista in 2003, which was much smaller, only like five monks," Kapner said. "It was way back in the mountains and very secluded, which was very good for someone like me who just wants a whole lot of quiet. It was perfect."
He spent the next two years removed from society, from the news, from everything "modern." His desire for this life, however, returned when a parishioner visited the monastery and asked if he had heard the news about Wal-Mart and Christmas.
'War against Christmas'
In 2005, Wal-Mart announced it would replace all "Merry Christmas" signs with "Happy Holidays." It also meant the chain would stop playing traditional Christmas songs over the intercom.
The bad news sent Kapner into his Bishop's room, to begin a new chapter in his life.
"I told my Bishop, this is a war on Christmas," Kapner said. "This is a war on Christ. I don't know if Jesus wants me to do something, I don't know if you want me to do anything, but I'm doing something."
Turns out, the monastery and the church would have rather kept him quiet. There is nothing orthodox in a vocal protest movement. Forced or not (Kapner wouldn't say), he moved away from the monastery, living on his pension, away from people who would rather he minister quietly. Instead, he got an apartment in Leadville and decided to live off the pension built up from his years in sales.
"I watch my expenses. I got myself ready. I prayed," he said. "I went on the internet and read the news for the first time in years. I wanted to get back in touch with the world."
Finally, after Kapner had read more about Wal-Mart in an online chatroom, his life began to piece itself back together. The groping stopped. His next move surprised even him. He walked into the Wal-Mart in Frisco and starting singing "Oh Come All Ye Faithful" in the aisles.
"The customers sang with me, the clerks were singing with me, but the store manager finally didn't know what to do, and finally asked me to stop. He had to do his job. ... But my point got across," he said.
And that's also when Kapner hired a lawyer. He understood that his message would alienate many folks, who would turn to the police to keep him away from Wal-Marts and street corners.
One of his first run-ins came in Breckenridge, on a snowbank where he sang "Joy to the World," certainly not a criminal act. Alas, someone called the police, who showed up and asked him for his ID.
"I showed him that, but I also showed them my lawyer's card," he said, managing a smirk. "The police's jaws dropped - this nut has a lawyer?"
Another time, a pastor came up to him with a critical voice. "He asked me, 'Is this how Jesus dressed?' I said, 'He dressed like a Hebrew. I'm a monk.'"
On other occasions along the highway, he gets the finger and shrugs it off. When pressed, though, he relaxes and calls the past year "overwhelmingly positive."
It's not hard to understand why. If you spend a few hours with him at the busy street corner, you'll notice the positive energy he receives back. Folks honk and wave. Some park their car and start up a conversation. It's that connection with people that will keep him returning to Silverthorne - a place he now calls his home, despite living in Leadville - and continuing to brighten the days of those who, most of all, are surprised at an older man, dressed like a monk, twirling and jigging to a silent music.
"We're all dissatisfied with some things, or many things," Kapner said. "We're all trying to make ends meet. Wars, this problem, that problem. I say, 'Hey everybody, here's Jesus Christ. Let's dance.'"
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The Catechism of Saint Pius X
Article 27
Q: Can one be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church?
A: No, no one can be saved outside the Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church, just as no one could be saved from the flood outside the Ark of Noah, which was a figure of the Church (emphasis mine).
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It also says this:
17 Q: Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way?
A: The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire.
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It also says this:
17 Q: Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way?
A: The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire.
I agree with this, but if I may add one note, this does not in any way contradict what Catechist quoted, because Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood don't mean that one dies outside the Church. Rather, those who die with the desire to be baptised die as members of the Church. Same goes for Baptism of Blood.
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It does say implicit. It seems that this leaves open the possibility that one might experience baptism of desire without consciously understanding that salvation comes only through the Catholic Church.
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It also says this:
17 Q: Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way?
A: The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire.
All I am doing is quoting a saint and pope here. What is there to down-thumb?
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It does say implicit. It seems that this leaves open the possibility that one might experience baptism of desire without consciously understanding that salvation comes only through the Catholic Church.
That only applies to the unbaptized. We are talking about baptized heretics and schismatics. Baptism of Desire does not apply to those who have received water baptism as all Orthodox have. They only apply to those who cannot receive water baptism through no fault of their own. They may be admitted to the Beatific Vision provided the person has received sanctifying grace through an act of perfect contrition or pure love of God. This cannot apply to infants.
Baptism of Blood (martyrdom for Christ) applies to an person who has not received water baptism but nonetheless has willingly sacrificed life in defense of the Faith or some Christian virtue (chastity for example).
Neither of these conditions can ever apply to a baptized person who is outside the Catholic Church without conversion. Conversion is required. Even at the moment of death it is possible for conversion but it is required.
But I could be wrong about all of this. :fryingpan:
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Actually I had never thought about it that way, but I suppose you are right.
It still seems to me that someone who was a material heretic or schismatic, but not a formal one, could possibly be saved. Such a person, if saved, would still be saved through the Catholic Church
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Whole thread is being manipulated by the faux-jew bretheren!
Sigismund poster = Sigismund Schlomo Freud; 6 May 1856 – 23 September 1939) was an Austrian-born Jew fraud!
etc
They are practising their Austrian Skool of barking mad 'Freudulant' psychology on you!
Bruvver Nathaniel is another stooge/useful idiot front for the furthering of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan NWO.
Hiis website is called a 'deflator'
ie where people go to vent, after they suss the faux-jew subversion/corruption/immorality/whats happening in the World and he writes stuff you already know in agreement.
His constant jew whining for more money is typical jew behaviour to get false "compassionate attention" from an innocent audience
( in UK tv star jew Stephan Fry constantly goes on about his "suicidal thoughts" regarding his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity - yet he carries on sticking his dick where he shouldn't)
Note his surname has a 'cooking' connection > babylonian тαℓмυdist "cook Jesus in excrement" Scottish Masons "........... JUS" logo (a jus is french cook word for a type of sauce or gravy)
(Why do think we are inundated with chef progs and Ramsey "Masonic Dagger" symbolism)
I've tried posting on Bro Nathaniel website and nearly All my posts are deleted or sneakily rewritten with added/subtracted words/lines!
Examples of deleted posts
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“Victoria Nuland (formerly Nudelman), the Assistant Secretary of State who is pushing the Ukrainian ‘revolution’, is the wife of Robert Kagan, the founder of the Project for the New American Century."
Faux-Jew land Khazaria = Ukraine
"Robert Kagan"
Look up and learn the roles of a Khagan + Bek in Khazaria!
Khagan or Kahn Khan or Qagan (Old Turkic: 𐰴𐰍𐰣, kaγan;
Mongolian: хаан, Khaan) .... such peoples as the Khazars (cf. the compound military title Khagan Bek
Khazar kingship was divided between the khagan(religous ruler) and the Bek(Army+general organiser)
Dual kingship/leadership K/B stylee (coalitions) are in Bible for end-times "They constantly squabble in disagreement and indecision!")
(they 'created' Manhatten Henge where they carry out Mammons work in the rotten "Big Apple' which affects all commerce/finance around the World (with London bankers eg Rothschild jews set Gold price twice a day)!
The bastards also crash the UK economy every 18yrs (havent looked at US) pretending its a finance 'cycle'(eliot on bike in front of full moon)
That it is is a Jew thing ie at Bar Mitzvah they give presents of money in multiples of 18 (harry potter platform 9 3/4 haven't worked that out yet) Thus they gorge themseles parasitically by adding more usury lending and buying stuff land/companies/houses etc up cheap - Geddit?)
All USA towns and cities are laid out in aligned grid-lines so they can satanically 'hex' them!
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Errrrrrrrrrrrr
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman were Jews!
Just like Joe ‘Jewson’ Stalin, Churchill, Eisenhower,loads of other WW2 top brass
Mussolini had a Viennese Jew mistress(black bloodline?) organising the Fascist party criminal acts too!
Roosevelt deliberately made the depression far worse with govt policies & caused a genocide when millions of yanks starved to death!
“According to the US statistics, the US lost not less than 8 million 553 thousand
people from 1931 to 1940. Afterwards, population growth indices change twice instantly exactly between 1930-1931: the indices drop and stay on the same level for ten years. There can no explanation to this phenomenon found in the extensive text of the report by the US Department of Commerce “Statistical Abstract of the United States,”
“Conditions and death rate at those works are to be studied separately. A member of public works would make $30, and pay $25 of taxes from this amount. So a person could make only $5 for a month of hard work in malarial swamps.”
"The conditions, under which people were working for food, could be compared to Stalin’s GULAG camps."
Glaston
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If you do a search of every post I have made on this forum, somewhere among the 5K + posts you will find the reason for my screen name. Hint: It has nothing to do with Freud or any one who is Jєωιѕн. Have fun!
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If you do a search of every post I have made on this forum, somewhere among the 5K + posts you will find the reason for my screen name. Hint: It has nothing to do with Freud or any one who is Jєωιѕн. Have fun!
For those of you picking this up from search engines - the fraudulant website has now posted my previously deleted posts but ONLY those that I have repeated on here!(the power of the Internet)
Bruvver Nathaniel (Another misleading anti-christ?) Website is another complete FRAUDULANT place run by SATANIC Tricksters (he may be an unknowing 'useful idiot')
He constantly moans about having no money for rent or to live on but runs a vastly expensive website that never goes offline!
Hmmmmmmm
Same as outed "Alex JONES" "David ICKE" etc etc
MAT 10:16
"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."
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Best info on the Jews and their interactions with the world/the church is E. Michael Jones's "The Jєωιѕн Revolutionary Spirit and It's Impact on World History".
I own it and was given it by a revisionist friend. Great book and exhaustive on the info of WHY the Jews are the way they are and how long they have been that way.-rebellious against God with an arrogance for the world.
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Best info on the Jews and their interactions with the world/the church is E. Michael Jones's "The Jєωιѕн Revolutionary Spirit and It's Impact on World History".
I own it and was given it by a revisionist friend. Great book and exhaustive on the info of WHY the Jews are the way they are and how long they have been that way.-rebellious against God with an arrogance for the world.
Sounds like a good read. Thank you for the recommendation. :reading:
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Amazing sig. Canterella
Acually it was Pope Paul 3's (interpretation?)
"Pope Paul III, The Council of Trent, Can. 5 on the Sacrament of Baptism, Sess. 7, 1547, ex cathedra:
“If anyone says that baptism [the sacrament] is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation (cf. Jn. 3:5): let him be anathema.”68"
Are not the (jesuit?) тαℓмυdist jew-run & mis-lead Masons made to clamber in and out of a coffin within their first 3 degrees and told they are symbolically 'born again'? Loads of Scottish ministers, jesuits etc are Masons
"The Freemason initiation ceremony of being " re-born " or "Born Again". The novice is required to physically lie down inside the coffin and arise"
Selling their souls to Satan!
“Timeless truth I am telling you: “If a person is not born from water and The Spirit, it is impossible that he shall enter the Kingdom of God.
John 3:5 Aramaic
'anathema' - means "'dead'icated to EVIL" if you dont use Holy Water!
Another nail in the dead-end of 'trickster' lead Masons!
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Did you know the USA elites spend Billions of taxpayer $$$ collecting papyri scraps of Biblical text in middle east, store and preserve them in special built conditioned rooms - yet can't find the cash or time to translate them!
(Ditto Vatican paid 'expeditions')
What are they hiding?
USA Universities were given Billions of Taxpayer Dollars a decade+ ago to form huge networks of knowledge for scanning- putting books etc online.
They cut off the general public (taxpayer) by shifting the networks onto hidden network nodes. You can't see or access without right equipment/network cards etc!
Demand access to what your taxed dollars paid for - fekk the satanist-elites wishes trying to 'dumb down' the masses!
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Whole thread is being manipulated by the faux-jew bretheren!
Sigismund poster = Sigismund Schlomo Freud; 6 May 1856 – 23 September 1939) was an Austrian-born Jew fraud!
etc
They are practising their Austrian Skool of barking mad 'Freudulant' psychology on you!
Bruvver Nathaniel is another stooge/useful idiot front for the furthering of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan NWO.
Hiis website is called a 'deflator'
ie where people go to vent, after they suss the faux-jew subversion/corruption/immorality/whats happening in the World and he writes stuff you already know in agreement.
His constant jew whining for more money is typical jew behaviour to get false "compassionate attention" from an innocent audience
( in UK tv star jew Stephan Fry constantly goes on about his "suicidal thoughts" regarding his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity - yet he carries on sticking his #### where he shouldn't)
Note his surname has a 'cooking' connection > babylonian тαℓмυdist "cook Jesus in excrement" Scottish Masons "........... JUS" logo (a jus is french cook word for a type of sauce or gravy)
(Why do think we are inundated with chef progs and Ramsey "Masonic Dagger" symbolism)
I've tried posting on Bro Nathaniel website and nearly All my posts are deleted or sneakily rewritten with added/subtracted words/lines!
Examples of deleted posts
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“Victoria Nuland (formerly Nudelman), the Assistant Secretary of State who is pushing the Ukrainian ‘revolution’, is the wife of Robert Kagan, the founder of the Project for the New American Century."
Faux-Jew land Khazaria = Ukraine
"Robert Kagan"
Look up and learn the roles of a Khagan + Bek in Khazaria!
Khagan or Kahn Khan or Qagan (Old Turkic: 𐰴𐰍𐰣, kaγan;
Mongolian: хаан, Khaan) .... such peoples as the Khazars (cf. the compound military title Khagan Bek
Khazar kingship was divided between the khagan(religous ruler) and the Bek(Army+general organiser)
Dual kingship/leadership K/B stylee (coalitions) are in Bible for end-times "They constantly squabble in disagreement and indecision!")
(they 'created' Manhatten Henge where they carry out Mammons work in the rotten "Big Apple' which affects all commerce/finance around the World (with London bankers eg Rothschild jews set Gold price twice a day)!
The bastards also crash the UK economy every 18yrs (havent looked at US) pretending its a finance 'cycle'(eliot on bike in front of full moon)
That it is is a Jew thing ie at Bar Mitzvah they give presents of money in multiples of 18 (harry potter platform 9 3/4 haven't worked that out yet) Thus they gorge themseles parasitically by adding more usury lending and buying stuff land/companies/houses etc up cheap - Geddit?)
All USA towns and cities are laid out in aligned grid-lines so they can satanically 'hex' them!
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Errrrrrrrrrrrr
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman were Jews!
Just like Joe ‘Jewson’ Stalin, Churchill, Eisenhower,loads of other WW2 top brass
Mussolini had a Viennese Jew mistress(black bloodline?) organising the Fascist party criminal acts too!
Roosevelt deliberately made the depression far worse with govt policies & caused a genocide when millions of yanks starved to death!
“According to the US statistics, the US lost not less than 8 million 553 thousand
people from 1931 to 1940. Afterwards, population growth indices change twice instantly exactly between 1930-1931: the indices drop and stay on the same level for ten years. There can no explanation to this phenomenon found in the extensive text of the report by the US Department of Commerce “Statistical Abstract of the United States,”
“Conditions and death rate at those works are to be studied separately. A member of public works would make $30, and pay $25 of taxes from this amount. So a person could make only $5 for a month of hard work in malarial swamps.”
"The conditions, under which people were working for food, could be compared to Stalin’s GULAG camps."
Glaston
I don't see the purpose in Brother Nathanael being a fraud. Why would he make known what the Jews are trying to do if he were just a Jew in disguise? Wouldn't the Jews want to keep their agenda secret? It doesn't make any sense. Its almost like calling the cops on yourself before you go out and commit a crime. What would that accomplish? It would give people a reason to stop you or even despise you. Why would Brother nathanael Kapner want to get people riled up agains the Jews like that? If he were a Jew in disguise?
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Like I said, he could be a 'programmed' useful idiot.
While the B'nai B'rith, J.D.L. run the website deleting posts they don't want out in public.
(Anyway They hardly care anymore, because they are nearing completion of their take-over of the World)
That's why they keep bringing up in media Munch's "The Scream"(of nature)!
The fence rail represents 'linear time', trying to keep on the 'straight and narrow' during one's lifetime path! (in my humble view - think for yourself!)
The rail-road (tracks/parallel rails) conquered the Wild West ie represents spread of Bible/Gods word across the World! "Iron Horse"
"In contrast to the 'linear style' used in the Pauline epistles,
John's thought moves in loops or circles forming a slowly advancing sequence of thought."
(Amazingly, The Ger-man army were ordered by their satanic-occult elites "to drive round in circles for hours" whilst waiting for order to blitzkreig Poland! There is film of them doing it! dunno if it fits here - but a real coincidence)
"This is similar to the parallel structure of Hebrew poetry, in which the second verse of a couplet often carries the same meaning as the first, though in the epistle the frequent recapitulations of already expressed ideas serve also to add to what has previously been said. In summary, the epistle may be said to exhibit a paraenetic style which is "marked by personal appeal, contrasts of right and wrong, true and false, and an occasional 'rhetorical question'".
Some scholars have proposed the idea that the epistle is really John's commentary on a selection of traditional parallel couplets.
Apostles went out to spread the word in pairs - that's probably why there will be "Two Witnesses!"
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PS
President Assad of Syria is a crypto-Jew (he even had a jew mistress)
Kerry is a Jew like Hollande/sarkovsky, Merkel, Cameron, Osborne, Salmond etc
Why are the jews fomenting major war over Syria ?
(note they are leaders of countries on both sides so can extend length of war = Xra deaths, manipulate internal factions hatred of each other & its outcome etc)
They have already let rip with internal genocides I think because ANTIOCH is in SYRIA
What's special about Antioch you ask?
Antioch was a chief center of early Christianity
“It was at Antioch that they were called Christian for the first time,” writes Luke in the Acts of the Apostles.
The word "Christian" is comparatively rare, appearing only three times(??)
So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch
Antioch, at the time, vied for 2nd most important City in the Roman Empire
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Infinite:
I don't see the purpose in Brother Nathanael being a fraud. Why would he make known what the Jews are trying to do if he were just a Jew in disguise? Wouldn't the Jews want to keep their agenda secret? It doesn't make any sense. Its almost like calling the cops on yourself before you go out and commit a crime. What would that accomplish? It would give people a reason to stop you or even despise you. Why would Brother nathanael Kapner want to get people riled up agains the Jews like that? If he were a Jew in disguise?
I'm with you on this, Infinite. If this is a hidden Jєωιѕн strategy on the part of Bro. Nathanael, then I fail to see what end it has in view. Is the brother calling the cops on himself? To tell you the truth, I am more suspicious of Glaston's motives at this point than I am of Bro. Nathanael's. Glaston's contributions are disjointed and practically unintelligible, IMO. They are full of puzzling phrases, esoteric meanderings, and strange anecdotal allusions. I just don't understand him at all.
On the other hand, I understand Bro. Kapner quite well. I don't share his Orthodox Faith, certainly, anyway, as it touches the papacy and the filioque. But the renewed spiritual awareness in Russia, and Putin's efforts to renew Russian Orthodoxy as the very soul of his country has got to impress us all on some level. By contrast, here in the West we labor under the heavy oppressive yoke of Godless judaism, and have, morally speaking, just about hit rock bottom. The only thing I see Russia needing is a final and conclusive dose of papal Consecration-to-the-Immaculate-Heart-of-Mary. She will then become like a lone star of great magnitude, shining star in a universe of brown and black dwarfs.
Check out the latest video of Real Jew New. Herein you will find Obama and his smiling sidekick Biden glowing over same sex unions, with plenty of help from innocent children. It makes you want to puke!
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=913
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Infinite: I don't see the purpose in Brother Nathanael being a fraud. Why would he make known what the Jews are trying to do if he were just a Jew in disguise? Wouldn't the Jews want to keep their agenda secret? It doesn't make any sense. Its almost like calling the cops on yourself before you go out and commit a crime. What would that accomplish? It would give people a reason to stop you or even despise you. Why would Brother nathanael Kapner want to get people riled up agains the Jews like that? If he were a Jew in disguise?
I'm with you on this, Infinite. If this is a hidden Jєωιѕн strategy on the part of Bro. Nathanael, then I fail to see what end it has in view. Is the brother calling the cops on himself? To tell you the truth, I am more suspicious of Glaston's motives at this point than I am of Bro. Nathanael's. Glaston's contributions are disjointed and practically unintelligible, IMO. They are full of puzzling phrases, esoteric meanderings, and strange anecdotal allusions. I just don't understand him at all.
On the other hand, I understand Bro. Kapner quite well. I don't share his Orthodox Faith, certainly, anyway, as it touches the papacy and the filioque. But the renewed spiritual awareness in Russia, and Putin's efforts to renew Russian Orthodoxy as the very soul of his country has got to impress us all on some level. By contrast, here in the West we labor under the heavy oppressive yoke of Godless judaism, and have, morally speaking, just about hit rock bottom. The only thing I see Russia needing is a final and conclusive dose of papal Consecration-to-the-Immaculate-Heart-of-Mary. She will then become like a lone star of great magnitude, shining star in a universe of brown and black dwarfs.
Check out the latest video of Real Jew New. Herein you will find Obama and his smiling sidekick Biden glowing over same sex unions, with plenty of help from innocent children. It makes you want to puke!
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=913
Why would Kapner delete/hide/rewrite my posts (from readers), which are on topic, informative, mainly agree with what he has said & add to the threads?
Total fraud site!
KAP-ner
- it refers to the little cap (hence kap'l) hassidic boys wore before bar mitzva
You go ahead and plant your false IMPressions about me then - I'm quite used to it! http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=post&s=reply&t=19083&f=4&qu=368595# esp off the Masons!
Signing himself off + Bruvver
- is what 'Arch Bishops' do too!
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I do not trust Bro either. To understand the modern Jєωιѕн mind you must understand that conversion to Christianity does not in their mind change their Jєωιѕнness. It's an ethnic, genetic identity.
One only need read Holy Scripture and to meditate on the words of Our Lady to know that Putin is NOT sincere and Russia has NOT converted. How do I know? The consecration has not been done as requested.
The Triumph comes "in the end"........She said. We aren't into the middle yet. We have to have the war first.
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Infinite: I don't see the purpose in Brother Nathanael being a fraud. Why would he make known what the Jews are trying to do if he were just a Jew in disguise? Wouldn't the Jews want to keep their agenda secret? It doesn't make any sense. Its almost like calling the cops on yourself before you go out and commit a crime. What would that accomplish? It would give people a reason to stop you or even despise you. Why would Brother nathanael Kapner want to get people riled up agains the Jews like that? If he were a Jew in disguise?
I'm with you on this, Infinite. If this is a hidden Jєωιѕн strategy on the part of Bro. Nathanael, then I fail to see what end it has in view. Is the brother calling the cops on himself? To tell you the truth, I am more suspicious of Glaston's motives at this point than I am of Bro. Nathanael's. Glaston's contributions are disjointed and practically unintelligible, IMO. They are full of puzzling phrases, esoteric meanderings, and strange anecdotal allusions. I just don't understand him at all.
On the other hand, I understand Bro. Kapner quite well. I don't share his Orthodox Faith, certainly, anyway, as it touches the papacy and the filioque. But the renewed spiritual awareness in Russia, and Putin's efforts to renew Russian Orthodoxy as the very soul of his country has got to impress us all on some level. By contrast, here in the West we labor under the heavy oppressive yoke of Godless judaism, and have, morally speaking, just about hit rock bottom. The only thing I see Russia needing is a final and conclusive dose of papal Consecration-to-the-Immaculate-Heart-of-Mary. She will then become like a lone star of great magnitude, shining star in a universe of brown and black dwarfs.
Check out the latest video of Real Jew New. Herein you will find Obama and his smiling sidekick Biden glowing over same sex unions, with plenty of help from innocent children. It makes you want to puke!
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=913
Not to mention, Christ and His Apostles were former Jews. Some Jews in this day and age end up converting to Christianity. Just because they were once Jєωιѕн does not mean we shouldn't ever trust them. I can see how we should probably take caution with them. But that doesn't mean we should never trust them. I personally think the same way about Brother Nathanael. Yes He is Orthodox, but that doesn't mean that he is not a believer. You can still be a believer and be of another denomination. Whether or not they achieve salvation is a different story though. I can't say for sure on that one.
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Infinite: I don't see the purpose in Brother Nathanael being a fraud. Why would he make known what the Jews are trying to do if he were just a Jew in disguise? Wouldn't the Jews want to keep their agenda secret? It doesn't make any sense. Its almost like calling the cops on yourself before you go out and commit a crime. What would that accomplish? It would give people a reason to stop you or even despise you. Why would Brother nathanael Kapner want to get people riled up agains the Jews like that? If he were a Jew in disguise?
I'm with you on this, Infinite. If this is a hidden Jєωιѕн strategy on the part of Bro. Nathanael, then I fail to see what end it has in view. Is the brother calling the cops on himself? To tell you the truth, I am more suspicious of Glaston's motives at this point than I am of Bro. Nathanael's. Glaston's contributions are disjointed and practically unintelligible, IMO. They are full of puzzling phrases, esoteric meanderings, and strange anecdotal allusions. I just don't understand him at all.
On the other hand, I understand Bro. Kapner quite well. I don't share his Orthodox Faith, certainly, anyway, as it touches the papacy and the filioque. But the renewed spiritual awareness in Russia, and Putin's efforts to renew Russian Orthodoxy as the very soul of his country has got to impress us all on some level. By contrast, here in the West we labor under the heavy oppressive yoke of Godless judaism, and have, morally speaking, just about hit rock bottom. The only thing I see Russia needing is a final and conclusive dose of papal Consecration-to-the-Immaculate-Heart-of-Mary. She will then become like a lone star of great magnitude, shining star in a universe of brown and black dwarfs.
Check out the latest video of Real Jew New. Herein you will find Obama and his smiling sidekick Biden glowing over same sex unions, with plenty of help from innocent children. It makes you want to puke!
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=913
Why would Kapner delete/hide/rewrite my posts (from readers), which are on topic, informative, mainly agree with what he has said & add to the threads?
Total fraud site!
KAP-ner
- it refers to the little cap (hence kap'l) hassidic boys wore before bar mitzva
You go ahead and plant your false IMPressions about me then - I'm quite used to it! http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=post&s=reply&t=19083&f=4&qu=368595# esp off the Masons!
Signing himself off + Bruvver
- is what 'Arch Bishops' do too!
I'm not sure exactly what you said on his site, but keep in mind that Bro Nathanael is not Hitler. If he thought what you said was something that was a bit offensive then he probably took it down for that reason. He probably has many Jєωιѕн family members still. I'm not sure what the Orthodox Church teaches about jews, but imagine their attitude towards them is much more liberal than ours.
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Thank you, for helping to keep the issues in perspective. Someone like Gaston willl say that Kapner runs a "total fraud site!" That's an irresponsible remark, not based in any facts which Gaston might have at hand, we can be almost certain. Gaston probably does not know any more about Kapner than we do. In my opinion, and probably your own, the evidence, prima facie, seems to point to Kapner's genuineness. Someone like Zeitun may say that he doesn't trust kapner. That certainly is his right, and I'm not certain that any online personality or newsmaker should be trusted implicitly. It's easy on a talk forum to say almost anything that comes to mind. None of us answers to an editor. None of us is paid for what he writes, or for that matter, fired for what he writes in error.
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The Joo-led Masons are going to introduce their Luciferic perverse version of Christianity!
He's an anti-christ (esp as Bible tells you not to slander certain Joos)
I can only report what has happened to my perfectly reasonable posts & on topic!
The fact you so vehemently support B.N is well dodgy in itself - misleaders!
Bn stands for Battalion - +B.N lead his 'legions' of readers - where?
100% "Discernment"
"It is that criteria which lies at the root of one of the Lodge’s traditions not to dine with its Tyler. Since that day the Tyler has never joined the Members at the dining table, however, the price of his meal being included in his fee.
Another one of the traditions stems from the same roots. White gloves are not to be worn as it is only other ranks who wear white gloves.
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My Favorite Brother Nathanael Video. I believe you will like it to:
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=913
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Glaston is more than irresponsible in his commentary. I conclude that he is just one more nut who has wormed his way into a Catholic talk forum. The man is a total drooler.
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Glaston is more than irresponsible in his commentary. I conclude that he is just one more nut who has wormed his way into a Catholic talk forum. The man is a total drooler.
Glaston, make your argument without the overly passionate, reactionary style. You may or may not be sincere, but you sound like a troll - just a little too over the top.
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Glaston is more than irresponsible in his commentary. I conclude that he is just one more nut who has wormed his way into a Catholic talk forum. The man is a total drooler.
Here's a sprinkling of 'fruit & nut' for you.
You hate the troof (shout from the rooftops) coming out!
You duplicit, deceiving, two-faced Mason
- living a lie all your life, speaking double-think, being a fag(means a go-for/unpaid servant in uk) for some unknown barking edicts and orders down to you, deceiving close family and friends who you demean as "The profane", must be un-bear-able!
Ho_ll_ingsworth
(with the 'ing' ing-soc of Orwell's 1984! Commie-Socialist 'Soc' puppet)
Newspeak, called Ingsoc - under the control of a privileged Inner Party elite that persecutes all individualism and independent thinking as "thoughtcrimes".
The tyranny is epitomised by Big Brother(Mason's GA Great Architect?), the quasi-divine Party leader who enjoys an intense cult of personality, but who may not even exist.
Big Brother and the Party justify their oppressive rule in the name of a supposed greater good.
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Glaston is more than irresponsible in his commentary. I conclude that he is just one more nut who has wormed his way into a Catholic talk forum. The man is a total drooler.
Here's a sprinkling of 'fruit & nut' for you.
You hate the troof (shout from the rooftops) coming out!
You duplicit, deceiving, two-faced Mason
- living a lie all your life, speaking double-think, being a fag(means a go-for/unpaid servant in uk) for some unknown barking edicts and orders down to you, deceiving close family and friends who you demean as "The profane", must be un-bear-able!
Ho_ll_ingsworth
(with the 'ing' ing-soc of Orwell's 1984! Commie-Socialist 'Soc' puppet)
Newspeak, called Ingsoc - under the control of a privileged Inner Party elite that persecutes all individualism and independent thinking as "thoughtcrimes".
The tyranny is epitomised by Big Brother(Mason's GA Great Architect?), the quasi-divine Party leader who enjoys an intense cult of personality, but who may not even exist.
Big Brother and the Party justify their oppressive rule in the name of a supposed greater good.
This is what I mean, Glaston. Way over the top. You've not been on this forum long enough to know the people you're attacking.
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Glaston is a loon, plain and simple. Matthew puts people off the forum all the time for one reason or another. Time for a little housecleaning, Matt.
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And you 'shadowy' Masonic scuм keep attacking me for saying
"Kapner website is false" (like Alex Jones and David Icke)
On topic posts are being deleted, rewritten without permission by adding and subtracting words/lines.
The website is operated by evil persons!
I will leave readers to make up their own minds.
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I do not trust Bro either. To understand the modern Jєωιѕн mind you must understand that conversion to Christianity does not in their mind change their Jєωιѕнness. It's an ethnic, genetic identity.
One only need read Holy Scripture and to meditate on the words of Our Lady to know that Putin is NOT sincere and Russia has NOT converted. How do I know? The consecration has not been done as requested.
The Triumph comes "in the end"........She said. We aren't into the middle yet. We have to have the war first.
A Jew has an ethnic identity, I will grant you that. But it is folly to go down the path of genetics and assume they somehow have bad DNA. That is wrong. As a matter of fact, that is the definition of Anti-Semitism.
I don't know what you mean by not trusting him. Are you somehow on the hook for him if you listen to what I think is much good information and to allow yourself to hear his perspective? How can you be deceived or led into danger over it?
So why the concern with trust? If you were contemplating joining him in some street evangelization, you remark may have some merit.
You don't know anything about the sincerity of Putin. Neither do I, but I do give him the benefit of the doubt currently. And what words of our Lady are you using to make this discernment? The Magnificat? The verse in which she says, "the mighty shall be removed from their thrones and the humble shall be exalted"?
Personally, I think the Consecration has been done and done properly. Either that or the whole idea of the Consecration was misinterpreted by Sister Lucy or those who are a part of Fatima Inc. who have built a profitable apostolate by perpetrating a nutty interpretation about the entire matter. However, I tend to think it is more likely the former.
Although it doesn't really matter. Fact is, Putin is talking like our bishops ought to be talking. He has established Orthodoxy as the Religion of State. Contrast that with the decadent West, led by the US, and I can confess that I am more than ashamed to be a citizen of the US. Especially due to its errors.
And remember, it was US and German banking Jews who funded their co-religionists to begin all the errors of Russia that culminated in the slaughter of about 60 million Christians.
Their return on investment was phenomenal. And their progeny managed to do the same thing once Communism was overthrown in the early '90s. More looting by Jєωιѕн oligarchs and bankers. Including Larry Sumners, ex-president of Harvard and one time member of Obama's cabinet.
Putin took care of them as best he could.
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Thurifer:
Personally, I think the Consecration has been done and done properly. Either that or the whole idea of the Consecration was misinterpreted by Sister Lucy or those who are a part of Fatima Inc. who have built a profitable apostolate by perpetrating a nutty interpretation about the entire matter. However, I tend to think it is more likely the former.
Well, you take a position on what part of the trad spectrum I can't be sure.
Even +Fellay and SSPX do not believe the Consecration has been performed.
Ratzinger, as pope, inferred that the Consecration had not been done properly.
The history of the 1984 Consecration suggests that JP2 was prevented from doing it properly by his cardinal advisors.
The FSSP and other indult orgs do not, I think, feel that the Consecration has not been accomplished.
The "resistance" priests certainly do not believe it has been accomplished.
Leading lay leaders like Michael Matt, John Venarri, and Dr. John Rao take an identical position.
The Archbishop did not believe that the Consecration had been done.
I am afraid, Thurifer, that you now find yourself in the camp of Michael Hoffman and, perhaps, Maurice Pinay. Hoffman never seems to have bought much of the Fatima event.
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Infinite: I don't see the purpose in Brother Nathanael being a fraud. Why would he make known what the Jews are trying to do if he were just a Jew in disguise? Wouldn't the Jews want to keep their agenda secret? It doesn't make any sense. Its almost like calling the cops on yourself before you go out and commit a crime. What would that accomplish? It would give people a reason to stop you or even despise you. Why would Brother nathanael Kapner want to get people riled up agains the Jews like that? If he were a Jew in disguise?
I'm with you on this, Infinite. If this is a hidden Jєωιѕн strategy on the part of Bro. Nathanael, then I fail to see what end it has in view. Is the brother calling the cops on himself? To tell you the truth, I am more suspicious of Glaston's motives at this point than I am of Bro. Nathanael's. Glaston's contributions are disjointed and practically unintelligible, IMO. They are full of puzzling phrases, esoteric meanderings, and strange anecdotal allusions. I just don't understand him at all.
On the other hand, I understand Bro. Kapner quite well. I don't share his Orthodox Faith, certainly, anyway, as it touches the papacy and the filioque. But the renewed spiritual awareness in Russia, and Putin's efforts to renew Russian Orthodoxy as the very soul of his country has got to impress us all on some level. By contrast, here in the West we labor under the heavy oppressive yoke of Godless judaism, and have, morally speaking, just about hit rock bottom. The only thing I see Russia needing is a final and conclusive dose of papal Consecration-to-the-Immaculate-Heart-of-Mary. She will then become like a lone star of great magnitude, shining star in a universe of brown and black dwarfs.
Check out the latest video of Real Jew New. Herein you will find Obama and his smiling sidekick Biden glowing over same sex unions, with plenty of help from innocent children. It makes you want to puke!
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=913
Why would Kapner delete/hide/rewrite my posts (from readers), which are on topic, informative, mainly agree with what he has said & add to the threads?
Total fraud site!
KAP-ner
- it refers to the little cap (hence kap'l) hassidic boys wore before bar mitzva
You go ahead and plant your false IMPressions about me then - I'm quite used to it! http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=post&s=reply&t=19083&f=4&qu=368595# esp off the Masons!
Signing himself off + Bruvver
- is what 'Arch Bishops' do too!
Perhaps because he finds you as annoying as I do. Maybe Mister Nathanael and I do agree on something
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And you 'shadowy' Masonic scuм keep attacking me for saying
"Kapner website is false" (like Alex Jones and David Icke)
On topic posts are being deleted, rewritten without permission by adding and subtracting words/lines.
The website is operated by evil persons!
I will leave readers to make up their own minds.
Glaston, some people here may agree with you, some may not, but to lash out at good Catholics on this forum with unsubstantiated accusations is not the way to win an argument. Leave out the all the drama and just make your case calmly.
And please, act like a Catholic, not like a possessed demon, flailing and wailing. It's not how Christ wants you to behave, or to promote His Kingdom. Write to us with dignity. No one will pay attention to the information you are providing if you come off as hysterical.
Now please apologize to the good people you have insulted.
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Now please apologize to the good people you have insulted.
Yes, Glaston, I'm awaiting your apology. :roll-laugh2:
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I find Brother Nathaniel to be a very interesting persona.
He is right about the implacable hatred the Jєωιѕн people feel toward Our Lord and the blasphemies the Jews spout about Our Lady but Brother Nathaniel isn't the only one pointing that out.
I do think it is likely that Brother Nathaniel is actually a Jєωιѕн person perpetrating a hoax on unsuspecting and anxious Catholics. These times are full of bile and rancid ness (and that is just from the mouth of Pope Francis) so, sadly, many Catholics will be deprived of funds by the likes of Brother Nathaniel. However, he still is an interesting character.
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capt McQ:
I do think it is likely that Brother Nathaniel is actually a Jєωιѕн person perpetrating a hoax on unsuspecting and anxious Catholics.
You're saying that Kapner is a jew posing as an Orthodox Christian, perhaps? He is "perpetrating a hoax," you say. Just what is that hoax? Please outline the main features of this hoax and share them with the readers. What is it that Kapner reveals that is in the nature of a hoax? Do you question his sources, his data, the realiblility of his information, etc? What is it about which we "anxious Catholics" are "unsuspecting?"
These times are full of bile and rancid ness (and that is just from the mouth of Pope Francis) so, sadly, many Catholics will be deprived of funds by the likes of Brother Nathaniel. However, he still is an interesting character.
Are you referring to Francis as if he had some credibility in our eyes? You say we Catholics "will be deprived of funds." What funds? What in the heck are you talking about? He is, from I read from you, a potential liar and hoaxter, yet he is an "interesting character." Are you sure you're not glaston using another user name? :laugh1:
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I agree with most of the content. It makes sense. But I disagree with the way he delivers the content. It is a little too theatrical, emotional, and euphoric, which makes him lose credibility. I don't think he is a nutjob, just that he takes the wrong approach when trying to deliver his message accross.
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cantarella:
It makes sense. But I disagree with the way he delivers the content. It is a little too theatrical, emotional, and euphoric, which makes him lose credibility. I don't think he is a nutjob, just that he takes the wrong approach when trying to deliver his message accross.
Being too theatrical is one thing. But that has nothing to do with the content of his remarks. He's thoroughly Jєωιѕн in his demeanor. But he's also very much a Christian in the Orthodox stripe, as far as I can see.
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capt McQ: I do think it is likely that Brother Nathaniel is actually a Jєωιѕн person perpetrating a hoax on unsuspecting and anxious Catholics.
You're saying that Kapner is a jew posing as an Orthodox Christian, perhaps? He is "perpetrating a hoax," you say. Just what is that hoax? Please outline the main features of this hoax and share them with the readers. What is it that Kapner reveals that is in the nature of a hoax? Do you question his sources, his data, the realiblility of his information, etc? What is it about which we "anxious Catholics" are "unsuspecting?"
These times are full of bile and rancid ness (and that is just from the mouth of Pope Francis) so, sadly, many Catholics will be deprived of funds by the likes of Brother Nathaniel. However, he still is an interesting character.
Are you referring to Francis as if he had some credibility in our eyes? You say we Catholics "will be deprived of funds." What funds? What in the heck are you talking about? He is, from I read from you, a potential liar and hoaxter, yet he is an "interesting character." Are you sure you're not glaston using another user name? :laugh1:
I have to agree. While I have made it clear that I think Nathanael is not a real Orthodox monk, I thing he is mentally ill, not lying. If he is some sort of Zionist stooge, the Zionists should shell out a little more for better stooges.
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I agree with most of the content. It makes sense. But I disagree with the way he delivers the content. It is a little too theatrical, emotional, and euphoric, which makes him lose credibility. I don't think he is a nutjob, just that he takes the wrong approach when trying to deliver his message accross.
That's the "Jєωιѕнness" in him, a lot of Jews carry these same characteristics, it's something ingrained and embedded in them from their upbringing and part and parcel of their culture. This is why so many Jews are naturals in Hollywood and the Media, acting is a sixth-sense to them.
As for Bro Nate, I think he's genuine, he names the Jew and openly defies them.
How many others out there have the guts to do the same?
And he's taking a lot of flack from his own and the secularists, because opposing Jewry will put you right in line with Satanists, mass-murderers or heaven forbid, being a "nαzι".
Having said that, I like him and he's informative in the least and entertaining at best.
Whether he's playing us or not is irrelevant to me, he names the oppostion to the Church and openly mocks them, something most in the Vatican wouldn't dare these days.
Kepp up the good work Bro.
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Now please apologize to the good people you have insulted.
Yes, Glaston, IVERSI'm awaiting your apology. :roll-laugh2:
You and other Masons have communicated personal stuff in your posts that only the 'eavesdropping' monkey/devils peering over my shoulder could know!
Luke 3:5-7 ESV
Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be made low, and the crooked shall become straight, and the rough places shall become level ways, and all flesh shall see the salvation of God.’” He said therefore to the crowds that came out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Let's all play on the levelled pitchs for the symbolic-Masonic 'G_rail'
"The ASHES"
You have conspired to twist what I say and rely on your history of deceiving/misleading others on this site!
Satan's Tricksters in action - Masons, the first thing you are taught is how to be EXPERT DECEIVERS!
Now you're outed - I'm warning others don't trust a word hollinsworth says!
5th columnist Aliens amongst us (Ger in Hebrew)
The joo-led masons conned/brainwashed the Christian GER-MAN to invade Europe/Russia Twice starting World Wars as the symbolic invading Alien/immigrant 'GER'
Bible
“One of the curses on a nation
THAT ABANDONS YHVH (YHWH) (Deut 28:43) (note the Volks Wagon)
- is that “the GER" (hebrew for 'resident Alien'/foreigner) among you shall rise higher and higher, while you shall sink lower and lower.”
"When illegal aliens have grown so powerful that they have created a double standard that allows them immunity from laws that the rest of us have to obey, we might want to think deeply about what is happening to us, and why.”
The satanist joo takeover of Europe/The West,
Coalitions(Khagan-Bek "bible - always dithering, bickering, quarrelling between them")
homo/lesbian promotion,
White Christians are 'passed-over' for immigrants in their own countries,
mad laws made by lawyers/judges, allowing release, to commit multiple crimes etc
Biblical "LUKEWARM" modernist priests have subverted Christianity (the great falling away) & sold out The Christian Nations!
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I have to agree. While I have made it clear that I think Nathanael is not a real Orthodox monk, I thing he is mentally ill, not lying. If he is some sort of Zionist stooge, the Zionists should shell out a little more for better stooges.
Read the comments/replies section on here
- I'm not the only poster telling the truth to have posts deleted and messed around with by 'moderators' manning his site 24hrs a day!
http://www.totalfascism.com/brother-nathanael-kapner-this-jew-is-no-friend-of-mine/
“…there is no doubt that the studio he is using is worth at least $ 2000 dollars…”
At AA’s other site, a commentor wrote: “…Kapner is… likely being backed by a very professional team.”
That is what I keep wondering, mainly because, HOW can ONE person put out so much info?
Text articles, videos, every 2 days or so, that have to be researched, etc. & for the most part are well done (or maybe his “handlers” give him the info, no time/research required-?).
Someone also must be working practically around the clock on his site because even if you post a comment at all weird hours, someone always seems to be at the other end to approve/disapprove it ASAP.
If he is only ONE guy running the entire show, he must never sleep.
His address is in Colorado, so maybe he DOES have a mountain backdrop for the videos. But I also wonder how does he fits all of the technical equipment he uses into his supposed tiny “studio apt.”?
One of the members of the Board of Advisors for the BN Foundation — a “Dr. SAMuel CROSS” — can that really be a real name? Uncle SAM & Christian CROSS(?) — wrote the other day that, “…Brother Nathanael lives an austere monastic life. He doesn’t have a car, lives in a TINY studio apartment, and only eats one vegan meal a day.” (caps added)
“Dr. Cross” was, of course, asking for donations on BN’s behalf. It never ends. Why does a grown man think everybody else should pay for his passion? (Be more like the Apostle Paul who refused to be a burden to believers so he kept a job on the side, tentmaking.)
Here’s what BN says he needs money for: “Two Sophisticated Dedicated Servers/Lite Speed Software for all of Websites; Bandwidth for Comments Section; Webmaster; Computer Tech; Sophisticated Anti-Hacking Software; Anti-Pirating; News Service Subscriptions; Multiple Domain Names to Prevent Pirating; Three Web Sites (Real Jew News; The Brother Nathanael Foundation; BroVids.com); Research Materials; New Projects; Legal Fees; Sophisticated Software (monthly rental fees) & Expert Help for Producing My State-of-the-Art Videos.”
Since YouTube & Vimeo supposedly censored him &/or axed his sites there, he built his own video channel, calling it “my STATE-OF-THE-ART Video Platform that took 3 months to build. Now it’s FINALLY Launched! AND I OWN It! ALL Jew-Ruled EU Countries Can NOW View ALL My Vids Without JEW-CENSORSHIP! @http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/ .”
He’s also recently been asking for a Travel Companion for his Street Work. Not sure whether that would be volunteer or paid. He’s also begun a new idea of offering to produce videos, “Video Sponsorship Program,” on any theme that anybody wants as long as they are willing to pay for the service (which is probably a good idea finally. If he’s great at making videos, sell your talent & make some money for yourself & quit begging!)
He’s also been repeatedly asking lately, “What am I doing wrong? Why is nobody donating? Somebody please tell me!” etc. Here’s a few reasons I can think of:
1. Biblical Christians do not support false, heretical, ritualistic, clergy-garbed religions like the Eastern Orthodox nor the RCC.
2. The cross he carries has a phallic symbol etched on the abdomen of Christ (I think it’s the same cross as shown in the 2006 “Rape of the Soul” docuмentary, available for viewing free online, google it). This is the MAIN reason I would personally suspect that he is “mocking Christianity” as so many people have stated. Of all the crosses made over 2,000 years, yet he uses THAT one!
3. Not sure but think he is a little too much on the side of being a provocateur/agitator.
4. He could be a disguised collection point for names/email addys/bank/address info of “Jew Haters” (if you comment or donate).
5. A grown man should not beg, monk or no monk. It is not Christian to constantly badger people for money. The Lord said, “COUNT THE COST” before you “build your bigger barn.” Keep it small if you can’t afford it.
6. A few months ago someone asked him why didn’t he use Scriptures in his articles & videos. This was, what I thought, a very lame excuse: “Why do I not use the “Bible” all that much in my Articles and my Videos? Because it CHEAPENS the Holy Scriptures to use it when it is not necessary to use it. I use Holy Scriptures in my public discourse SPARINGLY.” (From the article re Hagel sucking up to the ADL).
He put the quotes around the word Bible, above; & No real Christian would ever say that using the Scriptures would cheapen them. That’s ridiculous. The whole idea is to always let the WORD do the talking at every opportunity since it is “alive & exerts power & is sharper than a two-edged sword” via the Holy Spirit working THROUGH the Word to literally touch people’s hearts.
So, BN is still a mystery. I just don’t know for certain, only God can read hearts.
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NEW YORK: July 19, 2013
Statement from the Chancery of the Synod of Bishops
The Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia has recently received repeated complaints about the activities of and statements made by a certain Nathanael (Kapner), who lives on the territory of the Western American Diocese, but has no relation to it.
The clergymen and laity of the Russian Church Abroad are hereby informed that the actions of Nathanael (Kapner) do not have the blessing of the Synod of Bishops.
Profoundly saddened by the state of his soul, we call upon Nathanael (Kapner) to refrain from posting on the Internet, to a life of repentance of peace in Christ,
“where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circuмcision nor uncircuмcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all” (Colossians 3:11).
+KYRILL,
Archbishop of Western America and San Francisco
Secretary of the Synod of Bishops.
July 17, 2013
http://www.synod.com/synod/eng2013
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I enjoy him, so far.
I've been learning a LOT about the Judaic mind, lately.
So far, from the few videos of his that I've watched, I am in agreement with him. I do not think it is outlandish to say that, at this point, America is a Judaic colony.
The Judaic minds own Hollywood, the banks, Washington, the news media...and so much more. The Judaic Zeitgeist--if there is such a thing--is leading this land into ruin.
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Now, I must say this. When it come to talking about the "Jews," controversy stirs because different people will think that it is either about a race issue, an ethnicity issue, a religious issue, or a cultural issue. There are many Jews / Hebrew people who are Christian. The crux of the argument's problem is the term: Jew. So many people use the word "Jew" in a confusing manner.
I therefore try to restrict my language by addressing those with "a Judaic mind." Things are clearer that way.
The year I was born in 1967, the United States was aligned with Egypt in the ME and France was the major ally of Israel.
Then a scheme was cooked up. Why not send billions of tax dollars to Israel in the form of state welfare ? Then this aid money could by used to buy US weapons.
In exchange for this money laundering scheme by US defense companies, we get attacked on 9/11 and have an endless war against the ME culture.
Over 40 years later the welfare state of Israel still sucking the tit of US taxpayers dry.
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Alaric:
As for Bro Nate, I think he's genuine, he names the Jew and openly defies them.
How many others out there have the guts to do the same?
And he's taking a lot of flack from his own and the secularists, because opposing Jewry will put you right in line with Satanists, mass-murderers or heaven forbid, being a "nαzι".
Having said that, I like him and he's informative in the least and entertaining at best.
Whether he's playing us or not is irrelevant to me, he names the oppostion to the Church and openly mocks them, something most in the Vatican wouldn't dare these days.
Keep up the good work Bro.
Yeah, I agree. If Kapner is shown to be some kind of agent provocateur or fifth columnist, or is an agent of Mossad or some such org. then OK, let's be set straight. However, I do not hear him saying or doing anything that doesn't seem to be spot on. His analyses are always knowledgeable and in depth. Another reason I think he may be genuine is that he is opposed so fiercely by Glaston, who is patently a moron, or just plain mentally deranged.
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Alaric: As for Bro Nate, I think he's genuine, he names the Jew and openly defies them.
How many others out there have the guts to do the same?
And he's taking a lot of flack from his own and the secularists, because opposing Jewry will put you right in line with Satanists, mass-murderers or heaven forbid, being a "nαzι".
Having said that, I like him and he's informative in the least and entertaining at best.
Whether he's playing us or not is irrelevant to me, he names the oppostion to the Church and openly mocks them, something most in the Vatican wouldn't dare these days.
Keep up the good work Bro.
Yeah, I agree. If Kapner is shown to be some kind of agent provocateur or fifth columnist, or is an agent of Mossad or some such org. then OK, let's be set straight. However, I do not hear him saying or doing anything that doesn't seem to be spot on. His analyses are always knowledgeable and in depth. Another reason I think he may be genuine is that he is opposed so fiercely by Glaston, who is patently a moron, or just plain mentally deranged.
Bet you couldn't wait to post on Page 33
I'll let this person who has seen through you lot speak for me!
"That's the classic excuse for anyone who condemns anything about Judaics/Masons, all of the sudden they accuse them of an imaginary "mental disorder".
Well you know what faux-jew led Mason I've got news for you, most of тαℓмυdic Judaism is a mental disorder, that's the point.
Many Jews have all kinds of psychological issues as well as moral one's.
That religion breeds insanity, yet with their interior compunction to project their chutzpah, they accuse everyone else, with what they're guilty of, things like mental illness and "hate". "
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Alaric: As for Bro Nate, I think he's genuine, he names the Jew and openly defies them.
How many others out there have the guts to do the same?
And he's taking a lot of flack from his own and the secularists, because opposing Jewry will put you right in line with Satanists, mass-murderers or heaven forbid, being a "nαzι".
Having said that, I like him and he's informative in the least and entertaining at best.
Whether he's playing us or not is irrelevant to me, he names the oppostion to the Church and openly mocks them, something most in the Vatican wouldn't dare these days.
Keep up the good work Bro.
Yeah, I agree. If Kapner is shown to be some kind of agent provocateur or fifth columnist, or is an agent of Mossad or some such org. then OK, let's be set straight. However, I do not hear him saying or doing anything that doesn't seem to be spot on. His analyses are always knowledgeable and in depth. Another reason I think he may be genuine is that he is opposed so fiercely by Glaston, who is patently a moron, or just plain mentally deranged.
Bet you couldn't wait to post on Page 33
I'll let this person who has seen through you lot speak for me!
"That's the classic excuse for anyone who condemns anything about Judaics/Masons, all of the sudden they accuse them of an imaginary "mental disorder".
Well you know what faux-jew led Mason I've got news for you, most of тαℓмυdic Judaism is a mental disorder, that's the point.
Many Jews have all kinds of psychological issues as well as moral one's.
That religion breeds insanity, yet with their interior compunction to project their chutzpah, they accuse everyone else, with what they're guilty of, things like mental illness and "hate". "
If one were to judge solely from your posts, the same could be said of Catholicism.
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Is this the trash forum or something? Oh, no, it's General Discussion.
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