Author Topic: Who is Brother Nathanael? (Read 29564 times)

TraditionalistThomas · « **on:** June 03, 2012, 09:41:06 AM »

He seems to make a lot of videos about Jews on YouTube. What do you guys think of him?

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #1 on:** June 03, 2012, 10:40:35 AM »

I enjoy him, so far.

I've been learning a LOT about the Judaic mind, lately.

So far, from the few videos of his that I've watched, I am in agreement with him. I do not think it is outlandish to say that, at this point, America is a Judaic colony.

The Judaic minds own Hollywood, the banks, Washington, the news media...and so much more. The Judaic Zeitgeist--if there is such a thing--is leading this land into ruin.

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Now, I must say this. When it come to talking about the "Jews," controversy stirs because different people will think that it is either about a race issue, an ethnicity issue, a religious issue, or a cultural issue. There are many Jews / Hebrew people who are Christian. The crux of the argument's problem is the term: Jew. So many people use the word "Jew" in a confusing manner.

I therefore try to restrict my language by addressing those with "a Judaic mind." Things are clearer that way.

lefebvre_fan · « **Reply #2 on:** June 03, 2012, 12:21:09 PM »

He's awesome. He tells the truth about the Jews, and he can get away with it (I think) because he's ethnically 'Jєωιѕн'. Plus, because of his background, he seems to have a deeper understanding of the Judaic mindset than even most trads. Too bad he's Orthodox, though.

alaric · « **Reply #3 on:** June 03, 2012, 12:41:30 PM »

Quote from: lefebvre_fan

He's awesome. He tells the truth about the Jews, and he can get away with it (I think) because he's ethnically 'Jєωιѕн'. Plus, because of his background, he seems to have a deeper understanding of the Judaic mindset than even most trads. Too bad he's Orthodox, though.

Not really, if he were in union with the Latin Church he would've been suppressed years ago.

I believe outside of Bp Williamson no true Roman Catholic clergy has had the shadow of a chance of telling the truth about тαℓмυdic Judaism. Or even the courage to try for that matter.

I've been following Brother Nathaniel for years and the guy is spot on, although he is a bit of a pariah amongst the Orthodox as well.

Telling the truth is never popular.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #4 on:** June 03, 2012, 02:51:21 PM »

He's a little too sensational for me. Don't think I've ever actually disagreed with him on anything, but sometimes I cringe when I watch his videos and it's not always because of what he's talking about.

Sigismund · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2012, 04:13:36 PM »

He is not Orthodox. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox religious garb would no that no Orthodox priest or Monk dresses like that. He may be associated with some uncanonical group that claims to be Orthodox, just as there are Old Catholic independent groups that claim to be Catholic. He is a nutjob. Please ignore him.

Nadir · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2012, 04:34:18 PM »

His website site http://www.realjewnews.com/ has a new simple look. It used to be very loud and garish. I wonder if he has followed up this inclination in person. I prefer the new look.

LaramieHirsh:

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There are many Jews / Hebrew people who are Christian.

More confusion!
a. You cannot be both Jew and Christian at the one time.
b. Hebrew is a language not a people.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2012, 05:34:03 PM »

Quote from: Nadir

His website site http://www.realjewnews.com/ has a new simple look. It used to be very loud and garish. I wonder if he has followed up this inclination in person. I prefer the new look.

LaramieHirsh:
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There are many Jews / Hebrew people who are Christian.

More confusion!
a. You cannot be both Jew and Christian at the one time.
b. Hebrew is a language not a people.

Stop being pedantic, you know what I mean.

There are many people from the race of people that we know as "The Jews," who converted to Christianity during Christ's time on Earth, and many of these same people of that race left the Judaic cult and joined Christianity.

That race of people never disappered. Semites, etc. They're still there.

alaric · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2012, 06:24:45 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

He is not Orthodox. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox religious garb would no that no Orthodox priest or Monk dresses like that. He may be associated with some uncanonical group that claims to be Orthodox, just as there are Old Catholic independent groups that claim to be Catholic. He is a nutjob. Please ignore him.

He is, from what I know, in union with the Russian Orthodox Church.

Now, I want you to prove once and for all this is not true.......put up or shut up.

Or stop with the damn calumny and detraction of another mans reputation because you don't like his politics. you're the one that needs to be ignored.

Sigismund · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2012, 07:17:50 PM »

Okay. Let's start with this. Only novices in the Orthodox monastic world are called Brother. I will agree that in this county this is sometimes not observed, and that monks who are not deacons or priests are called brother. However, only priests in the Russian Orthodox tradition wear pectoral crosses. He has one on, but is not a priest. Also, the crosses worn by priests are suspended on a chain, hanging down to mid chest or even lower. They do not wear chokers.

There is a simple way to resolve this matter. If he really is a canonical "Russian " Orthodox, he will be affiliated either with The Orthodox Church in America, The Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, or the Patriarchate. I will email all three of these bodies and ask if he is one of theirs. I am confident all three will say no, but I will post whatever there responses are.

According to one article I read, he claims to be affiliated with ROCOR. so I will start there.

Sigismund · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2012, 08:00:51 PM »

This is the content of the email I sent to representative of ROCOR. I will send the same email, with adjustments for the person and jurisdiction. to representatives of the OCA and the patriarchate. Archpriest Serge, to whom this email was sent, is a media representative for the Easter American Diocese of ROCOR. A simple look at their website can confirm this if anyone has doubts.

Archpriest Serge,

As I expect you are aware, there is a man with many videos on Youtube who styles himself Brother Nathaniel Kapner. He claims to be a Russian Orthodox monk. For this to be accurate, I believe he would have to be affiliated with ROCOR, The OCA, or a patriarchal institution. Given the content of his messages and his manner of dress I find this very unlikely. I wonder if, given your role as a media representative for a ROCOR diocese, you could tell me what if any canonical status this man holds within Orthodoxy.

Thank you, Father, for any information you can offer.

Sigismund · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2012, 08:19:54 PM »

From ROCOR,

This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.

Cheryl · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2012, 08:31:53 PM »

Quote from: alaric

Quote from: Sigismund
He is not Orthodox. Anyone with any familiarity with Orthodox religious garb would no that no Orthodox priest or Monk dresses like that. He may be associated with some uncanonical group that claims to be Orthodox, just as there are Old Catholic independent groups that claim to be Catholic. He is a nutjob. Please ignore him.
He is, from what I know, in union with the Russian Orthodox Church.

Now, I want you to prove once and for all this is not true.......put up or shut up.

Or stop with the damn calumny and detraction of another mans reputation because you don't like his politics. you're the one that needs to be ignored.

Alaric, I remember this video from quite some time ago. One would real have to dig if they hadn't already seen it to find Brother Nathaniel's video about his Orthodox monastic life. Here it is...http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=643

Marcelino · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2012, 09:10:15 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

From ROCOR,

This is a good question. Brother Nathaniel runs to his own beat. It is my understanding that he is no monk, nor does he have an affiliation with ROCOR.

The monastery he attended has left ROCOR. Perhaps that has something to do with the way they answered you.

From Mt. Athos to Boston
Fr. Panteleimon, of Greek descent, became a monk on Mt Athos at St. Pantelemon's Monastery. He later joined the New Skete, and with the blessing of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, moved to the Boston area and founded the Holy Transfiguration Monastery.
1960-1970
The monastery was founded in the winter of 1960 in Haverhill, Massachusetts. A modest house was acquired in early 1961 in Jamaica Plain. The house served well until numbers began to grow and more space was needed.
In 1965, Fr Panteleimon and the monastery left the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, accusing it of ecuмenism and modernism, and entered the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.
1970-Present
The current location of the Monastery is a 3-Story Mansion, built in 1881 in Brookline, Massachusetts. The adjoining coach house has been converted to cells to accommodate the monks. The Monastery property is mostly wooded, and is about 19 acres. Some land is set aside for the keeping of goats, which provide milk and cheese for the monks.
Amidst various moral accusations, the monastery left ROCOR, accusing it of modernism and ecuмenism, and went into various Greek Old Calendarist jurisdictions and, finally, into being the principal monastery for the schismatic Holy Orthodox Church in North America.

http://www.wikinfo.org/English/index.php/Holy_Transfiguration_Monastery_(Brookline,_Massachusetts)?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikinfo.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DHoly_Transfiguration_Monastery_%28Brookline%2C_Massachusetts%29%26redirect%3Dno

MConstantine · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2012, 10:15:52 PM »

I wouldn't trust it/him.

There is already plenty of good Catholic coverage of the Jєωιѕн Imperialism that is sufficiently scholarly and intelligent.

This guy seems to go out of his way to look like a whacko, which of course makes all people who decry Judaism look like whackos.