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What Principles Does the Church Require You to Follow?
« on: April 21, 2015, 01:17:05 PM »
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  • http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/BaptDes-Proofed.pdf

    I. You must believe the teachings of both the solemn and the universal ordinary magisterium of the Church (Vatican I).

    A. General Principle:

    • “Further, by divine and Catholic faith, all those things must be believed  which  are  contained  in  the  written  word  of  God  and  in tradition, and those which are proposed  by the Church, either in a
    solemn pronouncement or IN HER ORDINARY AND UNIVERSAL TEACHING POWER [magisterium], to be believed as divinely revealed.” Vatcan Council I, Dogmatic Constitution on the Faith (1870), DZ 1792.

    B. The   Code   of   Canon   Law   imposes   the   same   obligation. (Canon 1323.1)

    C. Therefore,  you  must  believe  by  divine  and  Catholic  faith those things:

    1. Contained in Scripture or Tradition,  AND

    2. Proposed  for  belief  as divinely  revealed  by  the  Church’s authority, either through:

    a. Solemn pronouncements (by ecuмenical councils, or popes ex cathedra) OR

    b. Universal   ordinary   magisterium (teaching   of   the bishops  together  with  the  pope,  either  in  council,  or spread through out the world.)

    D. This is not “optional,” or “a matter of opinion.”

    • It defines the object of faith — what you are  obliged  to believe.

    • Further,  it  is de  fide  definita an infallible,  unchangeable, solemn pronouncement.

    II. You must believe those teachings of the universal ordinary magisterium  held  by  theologians  to  belong  to  the  faith (Pius IX).

    • “For even if it were a matter concerning that subjection which is to be manifested by an act of divine faith, nevertheless, it would not have to be limited  to those matters which have been defined by express  decrees  of  the  ecuмenical  Councils,  or  of  the  Roman  Pontiffs  and  of  this  See,  but  would  have  to  be extended  also  to  those matters which are handed down as divinely revealed by the ordinary teaching power of the whole Church  spread throughout the world, and therefore, by universal and common  consent are held by  Catholic  theologians  to  belong  to  faith.” Tuas  Libenter (1863), DZ 1683.

    III. You  must  also  subject  yourself  to  the  Holy  See’s  doctrinal decisions  and to other forms of doctrine commonly held as theological truths and conclusions. (Pius IX).

    A. General Principle.

    • “But,  since  it  is  a  matter  of  that  subjection  by  which  in  conscience  all  those  Catholics  are  bound  who  work  in  the  speculative sciences,  in order that they may bring new advantage to the Church by their writings, on that account,  then, the men of that same convention should realize that it is not sufficient for learned Catholics to accept and revere the aforesaid dogmas of the Church, but that it is also necessary to subject themselves to the decisions pertaining to  doctrine  which  are  issued  by  the  Pontifical  Congregations,  and also to those forms of doctrine which are held by the common and constant  consent  of  Catholics  as theological  truths  and  conclusions, so  certain  that  opinions  opposed  to  these  same  forms  of doctrine,  although  they  cannot be  called  heretical,  nevertheless deserve some theological censure.” Tuas Libenter (1863), DZ 1684

    B. You must therefore adhere to the following:

    1. Doctrinal decisions of Vatican Congregations  (e.g., the Holy Office).

    2. Forms of doctrine held as:

    a. Theological truths and conclusions.

    b. So  certain  that  opposition  merits  some  theological censure short of “heresy.

    IV. You must reject these condemned positions on this issue:

    A. Theologians  have  “obscured”  the  more  important  truths  of our faith. (Condemned by Pius VI.)

    • “The  proposition  which  asserts  ‘that  in  these  later  times  there has  been  spread  a  general  obscuring  of  the  more  important  truths pertaining to religion, which are the basis of faith and of the moral teachings  of  Jesus  Christ,’ HERETICAL .” Auctorem  Fidei (1794)  DZ 1501.

    B. Catholics are obliged to believe only those matters infallibly proposed as dogmas. (Condemned by Pius IX.)

    • “And  so  all  and  each  evil  opinion  and  doctrine  individually mentioned in this letter, by Our Apostolic authority We reject, proscribe, and condemn: and We wish and command that they be considered as absolutely rejected, proscribed and condemned by all the sons of the Catholic Church...”

    “22. The obligation by which Catholic teachers and writers are absolutely bound is restricted to those matters only which are proposed  by the infallible judgement  of  the Church, to  be  believed by all  as  dogmas  of  the  faith.” CONDEMNED PROPOSITION. Encyclical Quanta Cura and Syllabus of Errors (1864), DZ 1699, 1722.

    C. Encyclicals do not demand assent, because popes are not exercising their supreme power. (Condemned by Pius XII.)

    • “It is not to be thought that what is set down in Encyclical Letters does not demand assent in itself, because in these the popes do not  exercise  the  supreme  powers  of  their magisterium.
    For  these matters  are  taught  by  the  ordinary magisterium, regarding  which the  following  is  pertinent  ‘He  who  heareth you,  heareth  me.’;  and usually  what  is  set  forth  and  inculcated  in  Encyclical  Letters,  already  pertains  to  Catholic  doctrine.” Humani  Generis (1950),  DZ 2313.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    What Principles Does the Church Require You to Follow?
    « Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 01:26:59 PM »
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  • It’s really a bit much to see you and your ilk post these statements about “what must be believed” when you absolutely gut the core of WHAT MUST BE BELIEVED.

    As Nishant recently quotes a papal exposition of DIVINE REVELATION:

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    In Sublimus Dei, Pope Paul III, who presided over some of the sessions of Trent, stated "man, according to the testimony of the Sacred Scriptures, has been created to enjoy eternal life and happiness, which none may obtain save through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ."


    And here:

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    The Athanasian Creed

    Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Eternal and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One Uncreated, and One Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three Almighties but One Almighty.

    So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. For, like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say, there be Three Gods or Three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father, and of the Son neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

    So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity.

    Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting Salvation, that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man.

    God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the substance of His mother, born into the world. Perfect God and Perfect Man, of a reasonable Soul and human Flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His Manhood. Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but One Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into Flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by Unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one Man, so God and Man is one Christ. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into Hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into Heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.


    Go drain your gnats and swallow your camels somewhere else why don’t you?

    Alas . . . that last bit is only rhetorical.