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In another thread someone asked; What happens to a person who is improperly baptized as an infant by a Novus Ordo priests, baptized i the name of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, and they live their whole life as real Catholics receiving all the sacraments, and they die with no mortal sins.?

Well:

What happens to an validly baptized infant who commits a mortal sin in his first day of his age of reason and immediately dies?
What happens to a practicing Catholic who marries in the Church and gets an invalid annulment in the Novus Ordo and marries again in the Church and dies while still married to the second person?
What happens to an infant who dies on the way to be baptized?
What happens to an infant who is aborted and is baptized one second after his soul has departed from his body?

I could go on and on with such borderline examples.

All of the above examples are all in the realm of speculation, and one can speculate forever on them based on this and that (theologian, saint, personal opinion...) and that is exactly what is going on here on CI with the incessant posters on CI. It is all speculation.

All we know for sure is dogma and this is all the certainty we have. We who believe that dogma is the final word on a matter of dispute, we answer questions like this from the point of view of dogma. We, at least I, am not interested in speculation, speculation is the theologians playground, it is not THE final answer. It is the theologians playground, that is where they play. Without speculative questions, borderline cases like this, the theologians would be out of a job and these borderline cases are innumerable.

Today, regarding the salvation of these speculative borderline cases, the list has been expanded to the point that the question is asked: What happens to a person who does not believe in Christ and the Holy Trinity, does not want to be a Catholic, considers the Catholic Church a creation of Satan, but lives a religious  life in his religion according to his conscience? The answer that the theologians come up with is that they will be saved by their belief in a rewarder God.

This is where we are today.

In another thread someone asked; What happens to a person who is improperly baptized as an infant by a Novus Ordo priests, baptized i the name of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, and they live their whole life as real Catholics receiving all the sacraments, and they die with no mortal sins.?

Well:

What happens to an validly baptized infant who commits a mortal sin in his first day of his age of reason and immediately dies?
What happens to a practicing Catholic who marries in the Church and gets an invalid annulment in the Novus Ordo and marries again in the Church and dies while still married to the second person?
What happens to an infant who dies on the way to be baptized?
What happens to an infant who is aborted and is baptized one second after his soul has departed from his body?

I could go on and on with such borderline examples.

All of the above examples are all in the realm of speculation, and one can speculate forever on them based on this and that (theologian, saint, personal opinion...) and that is exactly what is going on here on CI with the incessant posters on CI. It is all speculation.

All we know for sure is dogma and this is all the certainty we have. We who believe that dogma is the final word on a matter of dispute, we answer questions like this from the point of view of dogma. We, at least I, am not interested in speculation, speculation is the theologians playground, it is not THE final answer. It is the theologians playground, that is where they play. Without speculative questions, borderline cases like this, the theologians would be out of a job and these borderline cases are innumerable.

Today, regarding the salvation of these speculative borderline cases, the list has been expanded to the point that the question is asked: What happens to a person who does not believe in Christ and the Holy Trinity, does not want to be a Catholic, considers the Catholic Church a creation of Satan, but lives a religious  life in his religion according to his conscience? The answer that the theologians come up with is that they will be saved by their belief in a rewarder God.

This is where we are today.

This looks like a sincere post and I am glad to see it.  Theology is not about figuring out individual cases as we are dealing with whether one is guilty of mortal sin or not.  This is something God alone can judge.  The infallible teaching of EENS and BOD state simply two things:
1.  There is no salvation outside the Church
2.  Non-members can be saved within the Church
The possibility of number two is all that is taught it does not even try to teach what happens to particular individuals based upon appearance alone. 
Both of the above infallible teaching which are both related to the EENS dogma is not simply a teaching of bonafide theologians but of the Fathers, Saints, Doctors and Popes.  Good Catholics accept this without pushing their inquiries further than the Church has inquired let alone teach dogmatically what has not been taught by the Church.  There is nothing complicated or crazy or outrageous about accept the unified teachings of the above sources on the topic. 
What is both crazy and outrageous is to question, let alone deny the obvious teaching of all the above unified teachings of all the above on the issue.  This was obvious in better day. 

That is correct if one believes Vatican II is infallible. Outside of Vatican II there is nothing infallible about #2. I believe that  #2 is foundational, the reason, for Vatican II and ecuмenism and the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr religion. Any Catholic with common sense will see that the clearly written dogmatic decrees on EENS, the sacrament of baptism, and justification, are opposed to #2. Only someone trying to ingratiate himself with his superiors would teach #2.

Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, Constitution 1, 1215, ex cathedra: “There is indeed one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which nobody at all is saved, …

You are either ignorant or a liar.  Has nothing to do with V2.  Stop appealing to peoples emotions with lies.  Where have I quoted from V2 or a V2 source for my support.  I quote nothing after V2 whereas you guys rely on post V2 people like the Dimond lay-folk.