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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2017, 11:53:29 AM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 14, 2017, 11:37:33 AM
They adhere to words which they do not understand or take in context within the whole of Catholic teaching.  Feeneyites are to Catholic Dogma what Protestants are to the Bible.
See my prior
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2017, 01:41:24 PM »
Council of Trent (16th century): Decree on Justification, Session VI, Chapter 4: "And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God."

 Session VII, Concerning the Sacraments in General, Canon 4 (Denz 847): "If anyone shall say that the sacraments of the New Law are not necessary for salvation, but are superfluous, and that, although all are not necessary for every individual, without them or without the desire of them, through faith alone men obtain from God the grace of justification; let him be anathema."
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2017, 04:55:38 PM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 14, 2017, 01:41:24 PM
Council of Trent (16th century): Decree on Justification, Session VI, Chapter 4: "And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God."

 Session VII, Concerning the Sacraments in General, Canon 4 (Denz 847): "If anyone shall say that the sacraments of the New Law are not necessary for salvation, but are superfluous, and [If anyone shall say] that, although all are not necessary for every individual, without them or without the desire of them, through faith alone men obtain from God the grace of justification; let him be anathema."
May as well put the emphasis on where it needs to be for the lover of liberalism.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2017, 09:26:41 PM »
Quote from: ryanaugustine on August 11, 2017, 11:45:21 AM
LoT, if you fancy yourself a teacher then I, the uninstructed, must tell you that you are wrong.  You are not easily understood.  You post endless quotes and do not plug them into any context.  You do not explain anything in plain english.  You don't weave your quotes into any sort of whole cloth of understanding.

I think, rather, that you post these quotes to try desperately to convince yourself that you are right and that Pax Vobis, for instance, cannnot possibly be so.

But I don't want to malign you.  I do think, though, that you should avoid trying to instruct the ignorant until you yourself are clear about what you believe, why, and can present it properly.

Teaching doctrine is like constructing a house, the final product, the purpose, is a house one can safely live in. LOT's, "doctrine" house would look like this:



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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: What BODers do NOT Believe
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2017, 03:10:51 AM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on August 14, 2017, 09:26:41 PM
Teaching doctrine is like constructing a house, the final product, the purpose, is a house one can safely live in. LOT's, "doctrine" house would look like this:


…which he would take as miraculous mandate instead of the rhetorical and sophistic sorcery that it more closely resembles, that and pig one's wolf-blown shack.
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