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Offline Last Tradhican

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I do not think anyone reads any of LOT's threads or for that matter, that anyone goes into the "Feeneyite" section precisely because it is practically all composed of his threads and postings. He had long ago now worn out his welcome here and has established himself as a nut case. Without LOT there would be no "Feeneyite" sub-forum. Nobody on CI reads what he writes except a few people who see the strict interpretation of the dogmas on EENS as a rebuke to their belief that all people of "good" will are saved. I think that amounts to LOT and just two other persons.  

In air warfare they have a material called chaff, a radar countermeasure in which aircraft spread a cloud of small thin pieces of aluminum which swamps the radar screen with many false targets, thereby hiding the real plane. LOT is just spreading chaff on this EENS forum. Let him drown in his own chaff.  In the end, anyone that reads what he writes will know less than when they began, so there is not as much harm done as one would think, as they didn't know anything to begin with. Anyone that seeks truth will see right through his chaff.
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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 01:50:21 PM »
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    All true, which is why I don't respond to his drivel.
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    All I can figure is he is allowed to post because CI gets more "hits" in the short term that way.
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    But in the long term, as you have said, there are fewer posts made because members ignore trolls like LoL.
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    I mean, like LoT. It tends to give a forum a bad reputation.
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    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 01:57:42 PM »
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  • I do not think anyone reads any of LOT's threads or for that matter, that anyone goes into the "Feeneyite" section precisely because it is practically all composed of his threads and postings. He had long ago now worn out his welcome here and has established himself as a nut case. Without LOT there would be no "Feeneyite" sub-forum. Nobody on CI reads what he writes except a few people who see the strict interpretation of the dogmas on EENS as a rebuke to their belief that all people of "good" will are saved. I think that amounts to LOT and just two other persons. 

    In air warfare they have a material called chaff, a radar countermeasure in which aircraft spread a cloud of small thin pieces of aluminum which swamps the radar screen with many false targets, thereby hiding the real plane. LOT is just spreading chaff on this EENS forum. Let him drown in his own chaff.  In the end, anyone that reads what he writes will know less than when they began, so there is not as much harm done as one would think, they didn't know anything to begin with. Anyone that seeks truth will see right through his chaff.
    1. He hasn't worn out his welcome, because he's still posting.
    2. His posts are figurative UXO, since you wish to make military comparisons.
    3. The VC used to fireball TFR in Vietnam by making Xmas trees with foil, and/or bamboo/rods/reeds or like comboed with claymores.

    Poi nt? Chaff kills too.
    "Lord, have mercy".

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 02:21:50 PM »
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  • 1. He hasn't worn out his welcome, because he's still posting.
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    He's posting again, after having worn out his welcome previously.
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    When you're a newbie you wouldn't know about that. Understood.
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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 02:32:41 PM »
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  • All I can figure is he is allowed to post because CI gets more "hits" in the short term that way.
    He's allowed to post for the same reason everyone here is allowed to post -- he's not breaking any rules* and he isn't annoying the moderator.**

    *I'm not aware of any rules which he is breaking. I believe he was previously told not to post the exact same thing in multiple places. So, if he's doing that, I'd let Matthew know.

    **This entire sub-sub-forum is of very little interest to either Matthew or myself, so those who find this topic a worthwhile use of their time hopefully by now have figured out that it is very light on moderator activity of any sort. Take it or leave it; it is what it is.
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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 03:01:03 PM »
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    All true, which is why I don't respond to his drivel.
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    All I can figure is he is allowed to post because CI gets more "hits" in the short term that way.
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    But in the long term, as you have said, there are fewer posts made because members ignore trolls like LoL.
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    I mean, like LoT. It tends to give a forum a bad reputation.
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    Alternately, LoL has CI hostages.

    Regardless, it degrades credibility, justly or no.

    Plus,  regardless of what "camp" one finds themselves in, what about the goodwilled hunting newby, already shell shocked in this goat rodeo, stumbling in and reeling,  and what are they, probability wise, going to first contact?

    Regardless of CONTENT,  they're going to find madness for method.

    Bad matter OR/AND bad FORM = bad day. This is true philosophically, sacramentally, and otherwise.

    "In the beginning…"
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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 03:12:21 PM »
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  • So go and see if he has been posting the "exact same thing" in multiple places, otherwise your complaints (CONTENT, madness, method, bad matter, bad FORM, bad day, philosophically, sacramentally, and otherwise) may not be taken into due consideration.

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    He has hostages only by their own consent. Nobody is required to respond to his insanity. But that won't matter because he has already proved that he posts again and again (like poche does) regardless of whether anyone replies. So long as they post something different they can keep on posting. They only get in trouble when they post the same material over and over (like poche's MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM posts).
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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 03:31:37 PM »
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  • He's allowed to post for the same reason everyone here is allowed to post -- he's not breaking any rules* and he isn't annoying the moderator.**

    *I'm not aware of any rules which he is breaking. I believe he was previously told not to post the exact same thing in multiple places. So, if he's doing that, I'd let Matthew know.

    **This entire sub-sub-forum is of very little interest to either Matthew or myself, so those who find this topic a worthwhile use of their time hopefully by now have figured out that it is very light on moderator activity of any sort. Take it or leave it; it is what it is.

    Sounds reasonable to me. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #8 on: August 15, 2017, 03:43:10 PM »
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    He's posting again, after having worn out his welcome previously.
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    When you're a newbie you wouldn't know about that. Understood.
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    Thank you for clarifying, that's fair and reasonablyh enough.

    There is BANNING however…
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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #9 on: August 15, 2017, 03:48:13 PM »
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  • People who, shall we say, "don't like Fr. Feeney" will tolerate/allow for LoT to keep drowning the site with his method, his posts and happily so.

    Still waiting here, however, for LoT to come forth with proof that Monsignor Francis Cassano was a Mason. For those who maybe don't know, LoT accused him of that, after hearing the Monsignor was assigned by the Vatican to examine "Bread of Life" by Fr. Feeney, and he reported that there were no errors in it.  LoT then said he wouldn't pay attention to anything a Mason would say.  Of course he is not going to pay attention to proof that Fr. Feeney was onto the "soft spot" in Extra Ecclesiam.  But to call the Msgr. a Mason was petulant and absurd - silly, even; the Masons would not shoot themselves in the foot in this way, with a positive report on Fr. Feeney.  LoT cannot back up that calumny nor has he so far retracted it.  And for the record, note that this examination's result gets little or no attention/publicity - it is meant to be buried. The Conspirators in the Church would be blowing it out of every horn all over the world were the Vatican "Bread of Life" review be negative in any way.    
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
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  • People who, shall we say, "don't like Fr. Feeney" will tolerate/allow for LoT to keep drowning the site with his method, his posts and happily so.

    Still waiting here, however, for LoT to come forth with proof that Monsignor Francis Cassano was a Mason. For those who maybe don't know, LoT accused him of that, after hearing the Monsignor was assigned by the Vatican to examine "Bread of Life" by Fr. Feeney, and he reported that there were no errors in it.  LoT then said he wouldn't pay attention to anything a Mason would say.  Of course he is not going to pay attention to proof that Fr. Feeney was onto the "soft spot" in Extra Ecclesiam.  But to call the Msgr. a Mason was petulant and absurd - silly, even; the Masons would not shoot themselves in the foot in this way, with a positive report on Fr. Feeney.  LoT cannot back up that calumny nor has he so far retracted it.  And for the record, note that this examination's result gets little or no attention/publicity - it is meant to be buried. The Conspirators in the Church would be blowing it out of every horn all over the world were the Vatican "Bread of Life" review be negative in any way.   
    Other issues aside,  it is pretty ignorant to hold that we may in principle and invariably disregard enemies of the faith.

    If this were otherwise, for example, Catholics couldn't serve in the military due to top-down saturation of the ranks by Masons. There would be no such thing as either lawful orders or superiors as each would be, directly or otherwise, positively doubtful at best.

    But, that's LoT-think for you.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 09:01:14 AM »
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  • St. Hippolytus of Rome (3rd century): Canons of Hypolytus, Can. XIX: Concerning Catechumens: "Catechumens, who by the unbelievers are arrested and killed by martyrdom, before they received baptism, are to be buried with the other martyrs, for they are baptized in their own blood."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #12 on: August 16, 2017, 09:16:21 AM »
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  • Kidding man. Takes the edge off and mitigates harshness.
    So go and see if he has been posting the "exact same thing" in multiple places, otherwise your complaints (CONTENT, madness, method, bad matter, bad FORM, bad day, philosophically, sacramentally, and otherwise) may not be taken into due consideration.
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    He has hostages only by their own consent. Nobody is required to respond to his insanity. But that won't matter because he has already proved that he posts again and again (like poche does) regardless of whether anyone replies. So long as they post something different they can keep on posting. They only get in trouble when they post the same material over and over (like poche's MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM posts).
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    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #13 on: August 16, 2017, 09:18:32 AM »
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  • St. John Chrystostome, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century): Panegyric on St. Lucianus, "Do not be surprised that I should equate martyrdom with baptism; for here too the spirit blows with much fruitfulness, and a marvellous and astonishing remission of sins and cleansing of the soul is effected; and just as those who are baptized by water, so, too, those who suffer martyrdom are cleansed with their own blood."

     Homilies on the Acts of the Apostles, Homily I: "But why does Christ say, "Ye shall be baptized," when in fact there was no water in the upper room? Because the more essential part of Baptism is the Spirit, through Whom indeed the water has its operation; in the same manner our Lord also is said to be anointed, not that He had ever been anointed with oil, but because He had received the Spirit. Besides, we do in fact find them receiving a baptism with water [and a baptism with the Spirit], and these at different moments. In our case both take place under one act, but then they were divided."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: Warning to All about Lover of Truth the Perpetuator of this Sub-Forum
    « Reply #14 on: August 16, 2017, 10:03:38 AM »
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  • *I'm not aware of any rules which he is breaking. I believe he was previously told not to post the exact same thing in multiple places. So, if he's doing that, I'd let Matthew know.

    AND Matthew limited him to starting one spam post per day.  He would pollute every thread on the subject of BoD by pasting in 20-page articles from one of his favorite sites.  He would create 10 of these threads every single day to the point that all the other threads got pushed off the bottom of the page.

    Most recently, he has started polluting other people's threads by spamming quotes into them to disrupt any discussion of the subject.  It's contrary to all forum etiquette to go in and sabotage other people's threads by spamming quotes in that do not even pertain to the subject under discussion.  That would be like his going into the Resistance Forum and spamming random sedevacantist quotes into every Resistance thread.  He does the same thing here and he needs to be stopped.  If he started the thread, then he can do what he wants, but he crosses the line by spamming his stuff into other people's threads.

    In fact, if LoT continues with this behavior, I might just to into the R&R forum and start spamming quotes into other people's threads until it gets Matthew's attention.