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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => The Feeneyism Ghetto => Topic started by: jerm on February 15, 2020, 04:06:20 PM

Title: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
Post by: jerm on February 15, 2020, 04:06:20 PM
Have any of you here seen this blog post by the sedevacantist blogger Introibo Ad Altare Dei? I've never seen it brought up here, where the arguments against Baptism of Desire tend to be much more intelligent and reasonable than the ones the blogger brings up in this post. Moreover, the post seems to ignore the necessity of explicit faith for baptism and conflates the issues of EENS and BoD into one issue when that's not actually what Fr. Feeney ever did. 

Have any of you read the article before? And, if so, what do you think of it?

http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2019/07/feeneyite-follies.html (http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2019/07/feeneyite-follies.html)

There's also a second article that I may post sometime if this thread gets enough responses.
Title: Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
Post by: Ladislaus on February 15, 2020, 09:31:04 PM
He's just a mindless dogmatic sedevacantist baboon who confuses the Ordinary Universal Magisterium with the Ordinary Magisterium.  That is THE error of the dogmatic sedes, and it invalidates about 2/3 of his rant.

Then he conflates BoB and BoD.  Then he conflates BoD with EENS.

He's bad willed and stupid.
Title: Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
Post by: ByzCat3000 on February 16, 2020, 09:50:05 AM
He's just a mindless dogmatic sedevacantist baboon who confuses the Ordinary Universal Magisterium with the Ordinary Magisterium.  That is THE error of the dogmatic sedes, and it invalidates about 2/3 of his rant.

Then he conflates BoB and BoD.  Then he conflates BoD with EENS.

He's bad willed and stupid.
I think, and I’m not saying I never do it, but I don’t think “bad willed” is the kind of judgment we have the right to make.  And I probably don’t agree with him either
Title: Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
Post by: Stubborn on February 16, 2020, 09:55:36 AM
Have any of you here seen this blog post by the sedevacantist blogger Introibo Ad Altare Dei? I've never seen it brought up here, where the arguments against Baptism of Desire tend to be much more intelligent and reasonable than the ones the blogger brings up in this post. Moreover, the post seems to ignore the necessity of explicit faith for baptism and conflates the issues of EENS and BoD into one issue when that's not actually what Fr. Feeney ever did.

Have any of you read the article before? And, if so, what do you think of it?

http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2019/07/feeneyite-follies.html (http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2019/07/feeneyite-follies.html)

There's also a second article that I may post sometime if this thread gets enough responses.
I just skimmed the article, it contains the same tired old errors that BODers consistently repeat over and over.  
Title: Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
Post by: ByzCat3000 on February 16, 2020, 10:19:30 AM
I just skimmed the article, it contains the same tired old errors that BODers consistently repeat over and over.  
I skimmed it too but a big thing/problem is that most if not all”feeneyites” on this forum are close to where Fr feeney himself was at, whereas most of the article is really directed at dimondism (for lack of a better word) which includes a feeneyite view on BOD but ALSO an extremely dogmatic sedevacantism
And an extreme judgment of all Catholics who are not feeneyites, which you don’t see in Fr feeney, st Benedict center, or on this forum.
I’m on the “liberal” side of the BOD debate but I can be fair, I think the arguments are decent ones against dimondism but not really great at feeneyism that actually stops where Fr feeney did 
Title: Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
Post by: Stubborn on February 16, 2020, 12:40:12 PM
I skimmed it too but a big thing/problem is that most if not all”feeneyites” on this forum are close to where Fr feeney himself was at, whereas most of the article is really directed at dimondism (for lack of a better word) which includes a feeneyite view on BOD but ALSO an extremely dogmatic sedevacantism
And an extreme judgment of all Catholics who are not feeneyites, which you don’t see in Fr feeney, st Benedict center, or on this forum.
I’m on the “liberal” side of the BOD debate but I can be fair, I think the arguments are decent ones against dimondism but not really great at feeneyism that actually stops where Fr feeney did
It remains that the guy is repeating error in the name of the Church. I believe anyone going to that site sincerely seeking answers rather than having a feigned curiosity, will leave at least confused, or will hopefully see something is wrong and seek for answers elsewhere.