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Offline jerm

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Thoughts on This Blog Post?
« on: February 15, 2020, 04:06:20 PM »
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  • Have any of you here seen this blog post by the sedevacantist blogger Introibo Ad Altare Dei? I've never seen it brought up here, where the arguments against Baptism of Desire tend to be much more intelligent and reasonable than the ones the blogger brings up in this post. Moreover, the post seems to ignore the necessity of explicit faith for baptism and conflates the issues of EENS and BoD into one issue when that's not actually what Fr. Feeney ever did. 

    Have any of you read the article before? And, if so, what do you think of it?

    http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2019/07/feeneyite-follies.html

    There's also a second article that I may post sometime if this thread gets enough responses.


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    Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
    « Reply #1 on: February 15, 2020, 09:31:04 PM »
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  • He's just a mindless dogmatic sedevacantist baboon who confuses the Ordinary Universal Magisterium with the Ordinary Magisterium.  That is THE error of the dogmatic sedes, and it invalidates about 2/3 of his rant.

    Then he conflates BoB and BoD.  Then he conflates BoD with EENS.

    He's bad willed and stupid.


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    Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
    « Reply #2 on: February 16, 2020, 09:50:05 AM »
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  • He's just a mindless dogmatic sedevacantist baboon who confuses the Ordinary Universal Magisterium with the Ordinary Magisterium.  That is THE error of the dogmatic sedes, and it invalidates about 2/3 of his rant.

    Then he conflates BoB and BoD.  Then he conflates BoD with EENS.

    He's bad willed and stupid.
    I think, and I’m not saying I never do it, but I don’t think “bad willed” is the kind of judgment we have the right to make.  And I probably don’t agree with him either

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    Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
    « Reply #3 on: February 16, 2020, 09:55:36 AM »
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  • Have any of you here seen this blog post by the sedevacantist blogger Introibo Ad Altare Dei? I've never seen it brought up here, where the arguments against Baptism of Desire tend to be much more intelligent and reasonable than the ones the blogger brings up in this post. Moreover, the post seems to ignore the necessity of explicit faith for baptism and conflates the issues of EENS and BoD into one issue when that's not actually what Fr. Feeney ever did.

    Have any of you read the article before? And, if so, what do you think of it?

    http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2019/07/feeneyite-follies.html

    There's also a second article that I may post sometime if this thread gets enough responses.
    I just skimmed the article, it contains the same tired old errors that BODers consistently repeat over and over.  
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
    « Reply #4 on: February 16, 2020, 10:19:30 AM »
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  • I just skimmed the article, it contains the same tired old errors that BODers consistently repeat over and over.  
    I skimmed it too but a big thing/problem is that most if not all”feeneyites” on this forum are close to where Fr feeney himself was at, whereas most of the article is really directed at dimondism (for lack of a better word) which includes a feeneyite view on BOD but ALSO an extremely dogmatic sedevacantism
    And an extreme judgment of all Catholics who are not feeneyites, which you don’t see in Fr feeney, st Benedict center, or on this forum.
    I’m on the “liberal” side of the BOD debate but I can be fair, I think the arguments are decent ones against dimondism but not really great at feeneyism that actually stops where Fr feeney did 


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    Re: Thoughts on This Blog Post?
    « Reply #5 on: February 16, 2020, 12:40:12 PM »
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  • I skimmed it too but a big thing/problem is that most if not all”feeneyites” on this forum are close to where Fr feeney himself was at, whereas most of the article is really directed at dimondism (for lack of a better word) which includes a feeneyite view on BOD but ALSO an extremely dogmatic sedevacantism
    And an extreme judgment of all Catholics who are not feeneyites, which you don’t see in Fr feeney, st Benedict center, or on this forum.
    I’m on the “liberal” side of the BOD debate but I can be fair, I think the arguments are decent ones against dimondism but not really great at feeneyism that actually stops where Fr feeney did
    It remains that the guy is repeating error in the name of the Church. I believe anyone going to that site sincerely seeking answers rather than having a feigned curiosity, will leave at least confused, or will hopefully see something is wrong and seek for answers elsewhere.

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse