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Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2017, 02:24:34 PM »
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  • The only method by which the dogma can be explained satisfactorily is that employed in the Suprema haec sacra. The Holy Office letter merely restates, in a more detailed form, exactly what all of the declarations of the ecclesiastical magisterium have taught about the meaning of the Church's necessity for the attainment of eternal salvation. Whatever progress there will be in the explanation of this dogma will come and must come along the line laid down in this Holy Office letter. Such is the teaching of the encyclical letter Humani generis. Fenton
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #61 on: September 20, 2017, 02:29:28 PM »
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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #62 on: September 20, 2017, 02:38:22 PM »
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  •  That doctrinal tactic was and is completely erroneous. Moreover, it had and it could only have the most absolutely disastrous effects upon the people who were misled by it. These people were influenced to believe that a dogma of the Catholic Church, a teaching which the Church presents as a divinely revealed truth which all men are obliged to accept with the assent of divine faith, was, in the last analysis, something practically devoid of meaning. They were encouraged to imagine that dogma which the Church's magisterium had, in ages past, set forth as a part of divine public revelation, turned out, on further analysis, to be an empty set of words, which modern intellectual Catholics could accept only when they had been voided of the meaning they were manifestly meant to convey. Not to put too fine a point on it, the people who were encouraged to accept the faulty teachings repudiated in the Humani generis were put in a position to fancy that the Church was something less than sincere when it still insisted upon the dogma that there is no salvation outside the Church. Fenton 
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #63 on: September 20, 2017, 03:10:10 PM »
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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #64 on: September 20, 2017, 03:27:42 PM »
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    Everywhere I turn...it's Fenton, Fenton, Fenton, it is like being hit over the head repeatedly with a... :fryingpan:


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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #65 on: September 20, 2017, 03:33:56 PM »
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  • Everywhere I turn...it's Fenton, Fenton, Fenton, it is like being hit over the head repeatedly with a... :fryingpan:
    "Hi, I'd like to offer as my main support a theologian approved by an authority which I reject." :facepalm: :fryingpan:
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #66 on: September 20, 2017, 03:39:05 PM »
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  • Everywhere I turn...it's Fenton, Fenton, Fenton, it is like being hit over the head repeatedly with a... :fryingpan:
    Should be named "Lover of Fenton".

    I think it's a verb now, like "Uh oh, LoF's here. We're about to get Fentoned."

    You took too much bro.

    He should start a "Doo Whop" singing apostolate, then he could call his group "The Fentones"
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #67 on: September 21, 2017, 08:12:22 AM »
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  • St. Basil, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century)Treatise De Spiritu Sancto, Chapter XV: "And ere now there have been some who in their championship of true religion have undergone the death for Christ's sake, not in mere similitude, but in actual fact, and so have needed none of the outward signs of water for their salvation, because they were baptized in their own blood. Thus I write not to disparage the baptism by water, but to overthrow the arguments of those who exalt themselves against the Spirit; who confound things that are distinct from one another, and compare those which admit of no comparison."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #68 on: September 21, 2017, 09:12:57 AM »
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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #69 on: September 21, 2017, 11:24:03 AM »
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  • Rufinus, Church Father (4th Century)A Commentary on the Apostles' Creed: "It is written that when the side of Jesus was pierced "He shed thereout blood and water." This has a mystical meaning. For Himself had said, "Out of His belly shall flow rivers of living water." But He shed forth blood also, of which the Jews sought that it might be upon themselves and upon their children. He shed forth water, therefore, which might wash believers; He shed forth blood also which might condemn unbelievers. Yet it might be understood also as prefiguring the twofold grace of baptism, one that which is given by the baptism of water, the other that which is sought through martyrdom in the outpouring of blood, for both are called baptism."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #70 on: September 21, 2017, 12:14:21 PM »
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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #71 on: September 21, 2017, 02:18:04 PM »
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  • St. Ambrose, Church Father and Doctor of the Church (4th Century)From his writing "De obitu Valentiniani consolatio": "But I hear that you are distressed because he did not receive the sacrament of baptism. Tell me, what attribute do we have besides our will, our intention? Yet, a short time ago he had this desire that before he came to Italy he should be initiated [baptized], and he indicated that he wanted to be baptized as soon as possible by myself. Did he not, therefore, have that grace which he desired? Did he not have what he asked for? Undoubtedly because he asked for it he received it."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #72 on: September 22, 2017, 08:06:27 AM »
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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #73 on: September 22, 2017, 08:28:34 AM »
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  •  Catechism of the Council of Trent (16th century)The Sacraments, Baptism: "...should any unforeseen accident make it impossible for adults to be washed in the salutary waters, their intention and determination to receive Baptism and their repentance for past sins, will avail them to grace and righteousness."
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Root of Lover of Truth's Illness
    « Reply #74 on: September 22, 2017, 09:16:45 AM »
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