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Offline Lois Einhorn

Re: The predestined will not end their life without the sacrament of the Mediator
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2022, 08:29:19 AM »
Now that I was able to evoke a good discussion that explains to lurkers and members, who lack an understanding of Catholic theology on predestination that contrasts heretical protestant notions, I thank Ladislaus for the dandy contributions. Also, excellent call by Ladislaus for seeing the heretical teaching in the newadvent link regarding those souls outside of the Catholic Church who are "saved" because they are "predestined" like Catholics who die in the state of grace. 
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Offline bodeens

Re: The predestined will not end their life without the sacrament of the Mediator
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2022, 10:35:18 AM »
Quote from: Lois Einhorn on July 16, 2022, 04:20:27 PM

Wrong. I reject Vatican II.

Think closely on election in "for all" in the NO and the inherent contradiction with Matthew 22:14. "For many" in the True Mass is a statement about election, you should medidate on reconciling that with God being all-knowing. 

I am trying to compress this into a manner that you will find attractive to give assent to an essential dimension of the Church's theology.
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Offline Lois Einhorn

Re: The predestined will not end their life without the sacrament of the Mediator
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2022, 10:57:09 AM »
Quote from: bodeens on July 17, 2022, 10:35:18 AM
Think closely on election in "for all" in the NO and the inherent contradiction with Matthew 22:14. "For many" in the True Mass is a statement about election, you should medidate on reconciling that with God being all-knowing.

I am trying to compress this into a manner that you will find attractive to give assent to an essential dimension of the Church's theology.
See my comment above yours. 
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