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What are you talking about?  Neither I nor Trent said anything about having the actual opportunity to go to Confession, but intend to go to Confession at the next available opportunity (if one were to present itself).  It means that in addition to his act of perfect contrition on his way down, he could just as easily have also thought that he wished he could have a priest to confess to.

You're tilting at a windmill you've thought up into a dragon. Wrong fight, wrong battle.

The article is simply making the logical and sound argument that if you reject the possibility of a BoD you are rejecting the possibility of a cleansing by grace sufficient for heaven by a desire for penance before it is received. The analogy between baptism and penance in terms of necessity is laid out in the Council of Trent, the Catechism of Trent, the Holy Office Letter - for examples.

The article is directed at the theological position that rejects the possibility of a BoD when the sacrament cannot be recieved by one with the intention, contrition and faith to receive it. No other position beyond that is advanced.

Again, the article apparently is triggering demons of liberalism in your mind, and you unjustifiably attack it.

The "layman" is a man; men are rational and capable of logical thought; the "layman" advances a logical and sound argument. If you have an issue with its logic, as another man presumably capable of rational and hence logical thought, demolish its logic, likewise making reference to the sources he mentions on the comparable necessity of the sacraments of baptism and penance, etc. Judge the merits of the argument. I suspect you can't, that's why you bring up, "credentials."

Here, go ahead, pick the poor brother "layman" all twisted up on the pavement and crippled from his "leap":


In addition to a simply smiley emoticon option, we need a "whistling in the dark" one, too.

This is the second time you've done this in this thread, Soubirous, taking shots redolent of theology while "not commeting" on the theology or "not getting into theological discussions."

Yeah, well . . . are your posts here in the same vein of Cornelius a Lapide not saying that St. Dismas went to heaven before our Lord here:


It's one thing to say you reject BoD, against the doctors, theologians, catechisms, etc. since at least Trent. But the arrogance, the snooze emoticons, the claims of heresy that certain anti-BoDers exhibit . . . I for one find it insufferable.

I don't want to be hard on you Marulus; we can respectfully disagree, and you of course can make whatever rational argument  you want. But the arrogance, sarcasm . . .




Maybe you should get a good alarm clock.

Marulus,

This says it all about the mindset of the cult.I've screenshot this classic. Unbelievable. This is probably the most . . . wow.

Just wow.

I'm very sorry for you.

Try hypnotism maybe . . . but you have to want it.

Wow.