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Offline DecemRationis

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The Necessity of the Sacraments
« on: February 18, 2024, 06:41:43 AM »
I'd like to have a discussion of the necessity of the sacraments for salvation in this thread. Since the discussion involves the necessity of the one sacrament required for all, baptism, and relates to the Feeneyite controversy, I'm posting it here. Let's start with Magisterial statements about that necessity.

I'm aware of the most prominent expressions from the Council of Trent. I think the most important come from Session VII of the Council, which deals with the sacraments in general and baptism.
Here are the ones that come to mind for me. The numbers are from Denzinger (1957). The sources (English and Latin) for all the quotes are linked after the first entry.


Quote
Council of Trent, Session VII (March 3, 1547)

Canons on the Sacraments in General

847 Can. 4. If anyone shall say that the sacraments of the New Law are not necessary for salvation, but are superfluous, and that, although all are not necessary for every individual, without them or without the desire of them through faith alone men obtain from God the grace of justification; let him be anathema.

Denzinger - English translation, older numbering (patristica.net)


847 Can. 4. Si quis dixerit, sacramenta novae Legis non esse ad salutem necessaria, sed superflua, et
sine eis aut eorum voto per solam fidem homines a Deo gratiam iustificationis adipisci, licet omnia
singulis necessaria non sint: an. s.


Full text of "Denzinger Schönmetzer - Enchiridion Symbolorum 1957" (archive.org)


Canons on the Sacrament of Baptism

858 Can. 2. If anyone shall say that real and natural water is not necessary for baptism, and on that account those words of our Lord Jesus Christ: "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (John 3:5), are distorted into some sort of metaphor: let him be anathema.

858 Can. 2. Si quis dixerit, aquam veram et naturalem non esse de necessitate baptismi, atque ideo
verba illa Domini nostri Iesu Christi: "Nisi quis renatus fuerit ex aqua et Spiritu Sancto' (Jo 3, 5) ad
metaphoram aliquam detorserit: an. s.

861 Can. 5. If anyone shall say that baptism is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation: let him be anathema [cf. n.796 ].

861 Can. 5. Si quis dixerit, baptismum liberum esse, hoc est non necessarium ad salutem : an. s. (cf.
DS 1524)


            * The "cf." section -

796 In these words a description of the justification of a sinner is given as being a translation from that state in which man is born a child of the first Adam to the state of grace and of the "adoption of the sons" [Rom. 8:15] of God through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Savior; and this translation after the promulgation of the Gospel cannot be effected except through the laver of regeneration [can. 5 de bapt.], or a desire for it, as it is written: "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God" [John 3:5].


1524 796 Cap. 4. Quibus verbis iustificationis impii descriptio insinuatur, ut sit translatio ab eo statu, in
quo homo nascitur filius primi Adae, in statum gratiae et 'adoptionis filiorum' (Rom 8,15) Dei, per
secundum Adam lesum Christum Salvatorem nostrum; quae quidem translatio post Evangelium
promulgatum sine lavacro regenerationis (can. 5 de bapt.) aut eius voto fieri non potest, sicut scriptum est:
"Nisi quis renatus fuerit ex aqua et Spiritu Sancto, non potest introire in regnum Dei' (Jo 3,5).




Session XIV



Doctrine on the Sacrament of Penance



Chap. 2 - The Difference Between the Sacrament of Penance and that of Baptism



. . . This sacrament of penance, moreover, is necessary for the salvation of those who have fallen after baptism, as baptism itself is for those as yet not regenerated [can. 6].



. . .  Est autem hoc sacramentum paenitentiae lapsis post baptismum ad salutem necessarium, ut nondum regeneratis ipse baptismus (can.6).



Canons on the Sacrament of Penance



916  Can. 6. If anyone denies that sacramental confession was either instituted by divine law or is necessary for salvation; or says that the manner of secretly confessing to a priest alone, which the Catholic Church has always observed from the beginning and still observes, is alien to the institution and the mandate of Christ, and is a human invention: let him be anathema [cf.n. 899 f.].



916 Can. 6. Si quis negaverit, confessionem sacramentalem vel institutam vel ad salutem necessariam esse iure divino; aut dixerit, modum secrete confitendi soli sacerdoti, quem Ecelesia
catholica ab initio semper observavit et observat, alienum esse ab institutione et mandato Christi, et inventum esse humanum: an. s. (cf. DS 1679ss).



*The note reference (which indicates "and following") -



899 From the institution of the sacrament of penance as already explained the universal Church has always understood that the complete confession of sins was also instituted by our Lord, [Jas. 5:16; John 1:9; (Luke 17:14)], and by divine law is necessary for all who have fallen after baptism [can. 7] . . .



917 Can. 7. If anyone says that in the sacrament of penance it is not necessary by divine law for the remission of sins to confess each and all mortal sins, of which one has remembrance after a due and diligent examination, even secret ones and those which are against the two last precepts of the decalogue, and the circuмstances which alter the nature of sin; but that this confession is useful only for the instruction and consolation of the penitent, and formerly was observed only for imposing a canonical satisfaction; or says, that they who desire to confess all their sins wish to leave nothing to be pardoned by divine mercy; or, finally, that it is not lawful to confess venial sins: let him be anathema [cf. n. 899-901 ]


1679 899 Ex institutione sacramenti paenitentiae iam explicata universa Ecclesia semper intellexit, institutam etiam esse a Domino integram peccatorum confessionem (cf. Iac 5, 16;1 Jo 1, 9 (Lc 17, 14)), et
omnibus post baptismum lapsis iure divino necessariam exsistere (can. 7) . . .


1707 917 Can. 7. Si quis dixerit, in sacramento paenitentiae ad remissionem peccatorum necessarium non esse iure divino confiteri omnia et singula peccata mortalia, quorum memoria cuм debita et diligenti
praemeditatione habeatur, etiam occulta, et quae sunt contra duo ultima decalogi praecepta, et circuмstantias, quae peccati speciem mutant; sed eam confessionem tantum esse utilem ad erudiendum et
consolandum paenitentem, et olim observatam fuisse tantum ad satisfactionem canonicam imponendam; aut dixerit, eos, qui omnia peccata confiteri student, nihil relinquere velle divinae misericordiae
ignoscendum; aut demum non licere confiteri peccata venialia : an. s. (cf. DS 1679ss).


I think it important to list the Magisterial texts on sacramental necessity if we're going to discuss the topic. Our opinions - sometimes we need this reminder, too often than not - are not authoritative in themselves, and only have "authority" to the extent that they are persuasive and reasonable as inferences or conclusions from the taken as given or necessary (from the authority) principles. But then their authority is intrinsic and are not in a sense verifiable.

The principles "necessary" to be followed and applied, however, are verifiable. Let us list them first.

From Magisterial statements we can look at interpretations or elaborations from teachers such as saints, doctors, theologians below the level of the Magisterium, which are subject to the same rules of persuasion as our own theories, though invested with more weight in the scales prior to the weighing.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Necessity of the Sacraments
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2024, 11:49:28 AM »
Necessity is one of the trickiest terms in Catholic theology, as several different types of necessity can be distinguished, e.g. of means vs. of precept, absolute vs. relative, etc.

It's my understanding that nearly all theologians hold that the Sacrament of Baptism is absolutely necessary by necessity of means.  Theologians hold that Holy Communion is necessary by necessity of precept and of moral necessity.

Question, in the context of BoD, is whether this necessity is satisfied in a BoD scenario, i.e. where the Sacrament of Baptism remains necessary even in BoD, i.e. where you could not have BoD WITHOUT the Sacrament of Baptism.  St. Robert Bellarmine, understanding that the importance of retaining the necessity of the Sacrament, actually stated that they received the Sacrament of Baptism in voto.

This is where I disagree with the Dimond Brothers, where they hold that all BoD necessarily undermines the necessity of the Sacrament.  You cannot have a Desire for Baptism without there being Baptism, so one could argue that it remains necessary for salvation even in a BoD scenario.  Of course, as Father Feeney points out, the famous passage about votum refers to justification and not to salvation.

Now, BoD has become so expanded that there need not be any kind of explicit intention to receive Baptism to be saved by BoD ... according to many/most of its proponents.  I'm not sure how one salvages the necessity of the Sacrament for Baptism when one claims that perfect contrition and charity along suffice, without any reference or thought of Baptism ... except for as some vague mystical "anonymous" instrumental causality, which I find to be borderline absurd.

In any case, we're not going to resolve this here ... until the Church's Magisterium intervenes.


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Re: The Necessity of the Sacraments
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2024, 11:50:26 AM »
Trent says the SACRAMENT of baptism is necessary for salvation.  This is doctrine.  There’s no interpretation required.  God's truths are simple; He speaks to us, through His Church, plainly and clearly.  God cannot deceive nor be deceived and neither does doctrine, which is Divine Truth.  

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Necessity of the Sacraments
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2024, 11:56:10 AM »
Trent says the SACRAMENT of baptism is necessary for salvation.  This is doctrine.  There’s no interpretation required.  God's truths are simple; He speaks to us, through His Church, plainly and clearly.  God cannot deceive nor be deceived and neither does doctrine, which is Divine Truth. 

Right, but those Doctors who held to BoD believed that the necessity was retained/salvaged because the Sacrament is still necessary in a BoD scenario, where somehow the Sacrament remains the instrumental cause of justification/salvation (as Trent teaches) by somehow operating through the votum to receive it.  I think it's weak, but it does suffices to exonerate those who hold Baptism of Desire from a heretical denial of Trent's teaching.

Byzcat3000 here believe in BoD, but he also agrees that AT MOST Trent is saying that you have to AT LEAST say that the Sacrament is necessary by votum ... in order to avoid a heretical denial of the necessity of the Sacrament for salvation, but is not positively teaching Baptism of Desire, merely permitting it or leaving the question open.  Trent was careful about making anything that is positively intended to teach de fide reflected in the Canons, and there's nowhere to be found anything remotely along the lines of, "If any sayeth that the votum to receive the Sacrament cannot suffice for salvation, let him be anathema."

I hold the position that BoD preserves the necessity of the Sacrament to be extremely weak and sketchy at best, but it suffices in theory to exonerate some of those who believe in it from heresy ... though very few in practice have a non-heretical view of BoD.  Most proponents of BoD are at least semi- if not full Pelagians and deny the ex opere operato effect of the Sacrament of Baptism.  I have difficulty seeing how BoD could possibly provide justification/salvation ex opere operato vs. ex opere operantis (when the individual formulates the proper votum).

Re: The Necessity of the Sacraments
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2024, 02:31:57 PM »
While due to a lack of formation and knowledge, I don't have much to add on this topic. Reading the OP have me a bit of a "lightbulb moment". Many people who have rebutted the Dimonds have pointed out that they take John 3:5 literally but, apply some interpretation to John 6:53, Fr. Jenkins even accusing them of acting like "quintessential modernists", it just struck me that by definition Baptism is more important for Salvation than the Eucharist because you need it first. You can't even have the opportunity to avoid the Eucharist if you aren't Baptised. In addition, no one who has a "Baptism of Desire" ever had the Eucharist (unless they were Eastern "Orthodox"). So, if one wants to advocate for BoD, they have to acknowledge that John 6:53 cannot be taken literally either. 

Most people probably already know this but, I thought I would post it just because of how much it "clicked".