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The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
« on: October 15, 2023, 01:34:56 PM »
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    • THE NATIVE — A TRACT IN ONE ACT

    Taken from here: The Point – December 1953 – Father Feeney's The Point (wordpress.com)

    The Curtain rises on what is plainly meant to be a Desert Island setting. A kangaroo scurries across the stage and some exotic bird-calls are heard in the distance, just to drive the thing home. Suddenly, emerging through a dense vine, a man appears. On his head is a pith helmet, around his neck a Roman collar, and under his arm a copy of the Denver Register. He is a missionary; and he is looking for the Ignorant Native.

    As he stands staring about him, there is a sudden shout overhead. A figure comes hurtling down through the trees and lands upright in front of the Missionary.

    Missionary (greatly excited) — Can it be? Look at me. Do you know what I am? Have you ever seen anyone like me?
    Ignorant Native (emphatically) — I should say not.
    M. — The Ignorant Native! At last have found you! And just in time. Come, we must hurry.
    I. N. — Where are we going?
    M. — I have been sent to bring you to America, to a huge celebration being given in your honor. A plane is waiting in the lagoon to fly us to New York.
    I. N. — What did I do?
    M. — What did you do? My dear man, as though you didn’t know. You have the distinction of being the very first person in all the world ever to have received Baptism of Desire.
    I. N. (impressed) — You don’t say!
    M. — Why, you are the very foundation of Baptism of Desire. It was invented in order to answer the question, “How is a native on a desert island, who is completely ignorant of the Catholic Faith, going to be saved?” Today, millions of people have Baptism of Desire, including almost every Jєω in America. But it all rests on you. You were the first, and you opened the way to the others.
    I. N. — And so you’re going to have a celebration for me?
    M. — The greatest celebration we have ever had. As soon as we arrive in New York, there will be a ticker-tape parade down Fifth Avenue. There will be banquets and ceremonies in your honor all over the country. The week of your arrival is being declared National Native Week. Bishop Sheen is going to have you as guest of honor on his television program, and simultaneously he will begin a new series of talks, “Ignorance is Worth Having.” You are to be invited by Father Francis Connell to give a course of lectures at Catholic University on “Living Up to the Natural Law.” Father Keller wants to make a Christopher film short of you playing golf with Bing Crosby and Bob Hope. And, oh, I could go on and on.
    I. N. — Will I be asked to make many speeches? I’m not too good at that.
    M. — No, people will expect you only to affirm a few of the basic principles which the theologians agree are responsible for your having received Baptism of Desire. For instance, if you are asked to say something, you might simply declare your belief in the fact that God is, and is a remunerator.
    I. N. — Oh, yes. I might simply do that … (confidentially) What’s a remunerator?
    M. — Never mind. Perhaps we had better just ask you questions. Try this one — it expresses Baptism of Desire in a nutshell: Do you feel an inchoate longing to be implicitly united to whatever it is you would want to be united to if you knew what it was?
    I. N. — Awww, now you’re teasing me.
    M. — I most certainly am not teasing you. This is a very serious matter. Why, I’m beginning to wonder if you have Baptism of Desire at all!
    I. N. — Of course I have Baptism of Desire. That’s why you’re going to have a celebration for me. Of course I have it … Except, there’s just one question I would like to ask.
    M. — Yes?
    I. N. — What is Baptism of Desire?

    The Missionary hurries off, mumbling to himself; he is obviously in a state of great agitation. The Ignorant Native turns and climbs back into his tree. A kangaroo scurries across the stage. And the curtain falls.


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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #1 on: October 15, 2023, 02:00:56 PM »
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    • Do you feel an inchoate longing to be implicitly united to whatever it is you would want to be united to if you knew what it was?

    :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #2 on: October 15, 2023, 02:17:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on October 15, 2023, 02:00:56 PM
    Do you feel an inchoate longing to be implicitly united to whatever it is you would want to be united to if you knew what it was?

    :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

    Yes, that line is hilarious.  This expresses modern BoD "theology" in one sentence ... and tears it to shreds in one sentence.
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #5 on: October 15, 2023, 05:27:48 PM »
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    • Excellent! Thank you for that. The next time the local daemonic circus performance is scheduled for the monstrously ugly Paul VI Audience Hall, this script would be perfect to use for some indietrismo guerilla theater. 
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #6 on: October 15, 2023, 10:07:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: poenitens on October 15, 2023, 01:34:56 PM
    THE NATIVE — A TRACT IN ONE ACT

    Taken from here: The Point – December 1953 – Father Feeney's The Point (wordpress.com)

    The Curtain rises on what is plainly meant to be a Desert Island setting. A kangaroo scurries across the stage and some exotic bird-calls are heard in the distance, just to drive the thing home. Suddenly, emerging through a dense vine, a man appears. On his head is a pith helmet, around his neck a Roman collar, and under his arm a copy of the Denver Register. He is a missionary; and he is looking for the Ignorant Native.

    As he stands staring about him, there is a sudden shout overhead. A figure comes hurtling down through the trees and lands upright in front of the Missionary.

    Missionary (greatly excited) — Can it be? Look at me. Do you know what I am? Have you ever seen anyone like me?
    Ignorant Native (emphatically) — I should say not.
    M. — The Ignorant Native! At last have found you! And just in time. Come, we must hurry.
    I. N. — Where are we going?
    M. — I have been sent to bring you to America, to a huge celebration being given in your honor. A plane is waiting in the lagoon to fly us to New York.
    I. N. — What did I do?
    M. — What did you do? My dear man, as though you didn’t know. You have the distinction of being the very first person in all the world ever to have received Baptism of Desire.
    I. N. (impressed) — You don’t say!
    M. — Why, you are the very foundation of Baptism of Desire. It was invented in order to answer the question, “How is a native on a desert island, who is completely ignorant of the Catholic Faith, going to be saved?” Today, millions of people have Baptism of Desire, including almost every Jєω in America. But it all rests on you. You were the first, and you opened the way to the others.
    I. N. — And so you’re going to have a celebration for me?
    M. — The greatest celebration we have ever had. As soon as we arrive in New York, there will be a ticker-tape parade down Fifth Avenue. There will be banquets and ceremonies in your honor all over the country. The week of your arrival is being declared National Native Week. Bishop Sheen is going to have you as guest of honor on his television program, and simultaneously he will begin a new series of talks, “Ignorance is Worth Having.” You are to be invited by Father Francis Connell to give a course of lectures at Catholic University on “Living Up to the Natural Law.” Father Keller wants to make a Christopher film short of you playing golf with Bing Crosby and Bob Hope. And, oh, I could go on and on.
    I. N. — Will I be asked to make many speeches? I’m not too good at that.
    M. — No, people will expect you only to affirm a few of the basic principles which the theologians agree are responsible for your having received Baptism of Desire. For instance, if you are asked to say something, you might simply declare your belief in the fact that God is, and is a remunerator.
    I. N. — Oh, yes. I might simply do that … (confidentially) What’s a remunerator?
    M. — Never mind. Perhaps we had better just ask you questions. Try this one — it expresses Baptism of Desire in a nutshell: Do you feel an inchoate longing to be implicitly united to whatever it is you would want to be united to if you knew what it was?
    I. N. — Awww, now you’re teasing me.
    M. — I most certainly am not teasing you. This is a very serious matter. Why, I’m beginning to wonder if you have Baptism of Desire at all!
    I. N. — Of course I have Baptism of Desire. That’s why you’re going to have a celebration for me. Of course I have it … Except, there’s just one question I would like to ask.
    M. — Yes?
    I. N. — What is Baptism of Desire?

    The Missionary hurries off, mumbling to himself; he is obviously in a state of great agitation. The Ignorant Native turns and climbs back into his tree. A kangaroo scurries across the stage. And the curtain falls.
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #7 on: October 15, 2023, 10:08:37 PM »
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #8 on: October 16, 2023, 06:49:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on October 15, 2023, 10:08:37 PM
    What is this wicked garbage?

    Yeah, these people hate "Feeneyism" worse than Modernism, calling it "pernicious" and a "sickness of the soul".  For them, Father Feeney was the greatest heresiarch since Arius.

    It's actually much more a reflection of THEIR "sickenss of soul".  They're oblivious to the fact that they themselves hold the same ecclesiology that Vatican II taught.

    You'll also note that they care nothing for a Baptism of Desire as a rare phenomenon that applies to an occasional catechumen, but simply try to use BoD as a way to undermine EENS dogma.
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #9 on: October 16, 2023, 10:42:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 16, 2023, 06:49:48 AM
    Yeah, these people hate "Feeneyism" worse than Modernism, calling it "pernicious" and a "sickness of the soul".  For them, Father Feeney was the greatest heresiarch since Arius.

    It's actually much more a reflection of THEIR "sickenss of soul".  They're oblivious to the fact that they themselves hold the same ecclesiology that Vatican II taught.

    You'll also note that they care nothing for a Baptism of Desire as a rare phenomenon that applies to an occasional catechumen, but simply try to use BoD as a way to undermine EENS dogma.
    Introibo is even worse than most, for him you're a Feeneyite if you don't believe Jєωs can be saved, so for him Derksen, another vehement anti-'Feeneyite' is also a Feeneyite :jester:

    Well, at least Introibo understood correctly that Feeney was condemned for preaching that Jєωs, pagans and idolaters can't be saved.
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #10 on: October 16, 2023, 03:15:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on October 16, 2023, 10:42:34 AM
    Introibo is even worse than most, for him you're a Feeneyite if you don't believe Jєωs can be saved ...

    This cements exactly my observation.  St. Robert Bellarmine limited BoD to catechumens, and both St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus to those who had explicit faith in the Holy Trinity and the Incarnation.  So, for these bad-willed clowns, these Doctors are also "Feeneyites".  As I said, they have no interest in a BoD that applies to the rare case of someone who intends to be baptized but dies beforehand, though meeting all the conditions stipulated by the Council of Trent to be properly disposed for the Sacrament of Baptism.  No, for them, it's all about using (and extension of) BoD to gut EENS dogma and get non-Catholics saved.  And they're too dumb (and/or bad willed) to realize that it means they accept the same ecclesiology that they declare to be heretical in Vatican II.
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #11 on: October 16, 2023, 07:34:33 PM »
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    • Funny how no one calling names or mocking the author has made any logical arguments against what he wrote….
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #12 on: October 16, 2023, 08:39:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: User2022 on October 16, 2023, 07:34:33 PM
    Funny how no one calling names or mocking the author has made any logical arguments against what he wrote….
    It's because invincible ignorance and BoD is emotional and not logical.
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #13 on: October 16, 2023, 08:47:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on October 15, 2023, 10:08:37 PM
    What is this wicked garbage?
    Read further than the title and you'll see. Fr Feeney went further than rejecting BOD and BOB. He taught egregious heresy about salvation that is even more erroneous than Protestant salvation doctrine. The religious order he started was also chock full of problems from top to bottom. Are any of the sources that Introibo cites incorrect?
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    Re: The native - a tract in one act (from Fr. Feeney's The Point)
    « Reply #14 on: October 16, 2023, 08:59:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on October 16, 2023, 10:42:34 AM
    Introibo is even worse than most, for him you're a Feeneyite if you don't believe Jєωs can be saved
    Has Introibo actually said that? I'm curious for a source if he has.
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