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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2023, 05:43:43 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 15, 2023, 04:02:07 PM
Well, I think that the primary meaning is the same as the famous "born again" passages, where there are two types of birth, a natural birth and a supernatural, and this passage distinguishes between the two.  But I do find the references to not by blood, not by the will to be very suggestive.  These words were written by the Holy Ghost and likely have several layers of depth and meaning.
in my post above, Aquinas explains what “not by blood” and “not by will” mean. They have no relation to baptism.  
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Offline gemmarose

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2023, 05:47:58 PM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on March 15, 2023, 05:42:16 PM
This is from Aquinas, I’ll trust Aquinas Latin over a Twitter feenyite who erroneously interprets scripture.
"Feeneyite" Friarminor doesn't agree with Fr. Feeney on justification, nor do I. 
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Offline Plenus Venter

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2023, 06:15:35 PM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on March 15, 2023, 05:43:43 PM
in my post above, Aquinas explains what “not by blood” and “not by will” mean. They have no relation to baptism. 
Well who is Aquinas that we should believe him? Don't you realise I have an opinion too? Those are the obvious questions these people are asking. Perhaps the Church will benefit from their wisdom one day. Leave them to their Protestant dialogue. 
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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2023, 06:55:01 PM »
Quote from: Plenus Venter on March 15, 2023, 06:15:35 PM
Well who is Aquinas that we should believe him? Don't you realise I have an opinion too? Those are the obvious questions these people are asking. Perhaps the Church will benefit from their wisdom one day. Leave them to their Protestant dialogue.


EDIT: didn’t realize what you were saying. You are right :laugh1:
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Offline Plenus Venter

Re: The Last Gospel of the Mass declares no one can be born again
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2023, 06:58:41 PM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on March 15, 2023, 06:55:01 PM
Are you mental? Who is AQUINAS that we should believe him???? Doctor of the Church… “Angelic Dr”…. Saint etc etc

:facepalm::facepalm:
Yes, CIA, that's my point, I think you misinterpreted my comment. That is effectively what some on this thread are saying. It is impossible to comprehend how a Catholic can have such an attitude. 
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