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Author Topic: The Holy Office Letter Suprema Haec Sacra  (Read 6300 times)

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Re: The Holy Office Letter Suprema Haec Sacra
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2017, 10:00:14 AM »
Secondly, specific approbation (in forma specifica), which takes from the act approved its character of an act of the inferior and makes it the act of the superior who approves it. This approbation is understood when, for example, the pope approves a Decree of the Holy Office ex certa scientia, motu proprio, or plenitudine suâ potestatis. Even when specifically approved by the pope, decrees of the Holy Office are not infallible. They call for a true assent, internal and sincere, but they do not impose an absolute assent, like the dogmatic definitions given by the pope as infallible teacher of the Faith. The reason is that, although an act of this congregation, when approved by the pope specifically, becomes an act of the sovereign pontiff,

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that act is not necessarily clothed with the infallible authority inherent in the Holy See, since the pope is free to make the act of an inferior his own without applying his pontifical prerogative to its performance. Similarly, when he acts of his own volition, he may teach ex cathedra or he may teach in a less decisive and solemn way. Examples of >>>> specific <<<< approbation of the Decrees of the Holy Office which yet lack the force of ex cathedra definitions...
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Re: The Holy Office Letter Suprema Haec Sacra
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2017, 10:01:58 AM »
Do you give a true internal and sincere ascent to it?

No, I am required to give true and internal assent to it.

By it I mean any act of the authentic Magisterium (from which I exclude SH).

But, in principle, indeed, Catholics must give true and internal assent to such acts of the authentic Magisterium.

Your problem is in misdefining what this "assent" entails.  It's RELIGIOUS assent.  Please read your hero Msgr. Fenton on the authority of Encyclicals wherein he clearly defines all these concepts.


Re: The Holy Office Letter Suprema Haec Sacra
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2017, 11:05:47 AM »
Secondly, specific approbation (in forma specifica), which takes from the act approved its character of an act of the inferior and makes it the act of the superior who approves it. This approbation is understood when, for example, the pope approves a Decree of the Holy Office ex certa scientia, motu proprio, or plenitudine suâ potestatis. Even when specifically approved by the pope, decrees of the Holy Office are not infallible. They call for a true assent, internal and sincere, but they do not impose an absolute assent, like the dogmatic definitions given by the pope as infallible teacher of the Faith. The reason is that, although an act of this congregation, when approved by the pope specifically, becomes an act of the sovereign pontiff,

(.^. >>>> "AAS" <<<<<) Learn to READ and/or TELL THE TRUTH DZ P)
that act is not necessarily clothed with the infallible authority inherent in the Holy See, since the pope is free to make the act of an inferior his own without applying his pontifical prerogative to its performance. Similarly, when he acts of his own volition, he may teach ex cathedra or he may teach in a less decisive and solemn way. Examples of >>>> specific <<<< approbation of the Decrees of the Holy Office which yet lack the force of ex cathedra definitions...
Answer seems more complicated than would be from a good Catholic and rather emotional.  Of course the die-hard feeneyite will not be able to answer in the affirmative regarding to a true, internal and sincere assent, but the smarter ones avoid looking more foolish with their silence.  

Re: The Holy Office Letter Suprema Haec Sacra
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2017, 11:17:19 AM »
Feeneyites hate official docuмents of the Church approved by a valid Pope.  Yuck.
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Re: The Holy Office Letter Suprema Haec Sacra
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2017, 11:19:16 AM »
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Agreed.  It is tiring.  But for the sake of those confused on the issue I will keep sharing what the Church teaches to the chagrin of the hateful and disparate Feeneyites.