This was what I found who is in the Church and who isn't:

The Members Of The Church Militant

The Church militant is composed of two classes of persons, the good and the bad, both professing the same faith and partaking of the same Sacraments, yet differing in their manner of life and morality.

The good are those who are linked together not only by the profession of the same faith, and the participation of the same Sacraments, but also by the spirit of grace and the bond of charity. Of these St. Paul says: The Lord knoweth who are his. Who they are that compose this class we also may remotely conjecture, but we can by no means pronounce with certainty. Hence Christ the Saviour does not speak of this portion of His Church when He refers us to the Church and commands us to hear and to obey her. As this part of the Church is unknown, how could we ascertain with certainty whose decision to recur to, whose authority to obey?

The Church, therefore, as the Scriptures and the writings of the Saints testify, includes within her fold the good and the bad; and it was in this sense that St. Paul spoke of one body and one spirit. Thus understood, the Church is known and is compared to a city built on a mountain, and visible from every side. As all must yield obedience to her authority, it is necessary that she may?be known by all.

That the Church is composed of the good and the bad we learn from many parables contained in the Gospel. Thus, the kingdom of heaven, that is, the Church militant, is compared to a net cast into the sea, to a field in which tares were sown with the good grain, to a threshing floor on which the grain is mixed up with the chaff, and also to ten virgins, some of whom were wise, and some foolish. And long before, we trace a figure and resemblance of this Church in the ark of Noah, which contained not only clean, but also unclean animals.

But although the Catholic faith uniformly and truly teaches that the good and the bad belong to the Church, yet the same faith declares that the condition of both is very different. The wicked are contained in the Church, as the chaff is mingled with the grain on the threshing floor, or as dead members sometimes remain attached to a living body.


Those Who Are Not Members Of The Church

Hence there are but three classes of persons excluded from the Church's pale: infidels, heretics and schismatics, and excommunicated persons. Infidels are outside the Church because they never belonged to, and never knew the Church, and were never made partakers of any of her Sacraments. Heretics and schismatics are excluded from the Church, because they have separated from her and belong to her only as deserters belong to the army from which they have deserted. It is not, however, to be denied that they are still subject to the jurisdiction of the Church, inasmuch as they may be called before her tribunals, punished and anathematised. Finally, excommunicated persons are not members of the Church, because they have been cut off by her sentence from the number of her children and belong not to her communion until they repent.

But with regard to the rest, however wicked and evil they may be, it is certain that they still belong to the Church: Of this the faithful are frequently to be reminded, in order to be convinced that, were even the lives of her ministers debased by crime, they are still within the Church, and therefore lose nothing of their power.

I always talk about those neo-Catholics from CAF here on CathInfo and I'm going to talk a little bit more about them in this next post. I actually got suspended for two weeks for apparently telling Catholics to avoid reading the new Catechism of the Catholic Church. But anyway, they always talk about how our Protestant "seperated bretheren" aren't heretics because they were born into heretical communities through no fault of their own without knowing and doubting the true Faith. I had always believed them. Why do traditionals call those Protestants heretics if they were born into these communities?

I always talk about those neo-Catholics from CAF here on CathInfo and I'm going to talk a little bit more about them in this next post. I actually got suspended for two weeks for apparently telling Catholics to avoid reading the new Catechism of the Catholic Church. But anyway, they always talk about how our Protestant "seperated bretheren" aren't heretics because they were born into heretical communities through no fault of their own without knowing and doubting the true Faith. I had always believed them. Why do traditionals call those Protestants heretics if they were born into these communities?

Well, are the claims of the Church and the Holy Religion unavailable to them?
 Does not God give each man an intellect and the ability to discern the truth?
And does He not place the obligation upon men that they are to use these gifts and the grace which he initially gives them to find Him and His Church?

Most who remain Protestant are those who refuse God's grace and will not investigate the Church because Protestantism suits them. They may not be causally hertical but they are effectively heretics in that they claim to be Christian but have created "another Christ" for themselves.

Every man who is born is obliged to find God and to obey Him.  Those who do not end up outside of His Church and salvation.

All Protestants are heretics insofar as they deny the true Church of Christ and her Magisterium. There is not a doubt in my mind that the vast majority of Protestants will go to Hell because their religion bears no grace whatsoever. After they are baptised and are justified for the very first time, if they commit even 1 mortal sin they lose the state of grace and will go straight to Hell if they die.

The most horrible thing about this is that, as someone else said, Protestants don't care to find the truth because Protestantism suits them. It is much harder to be a Catholic than it is a Protestant, because the Protestant false religion encourages and teaches spiritual lethargy. Most Protestants don't seem to care about whether or not our faith is true. All they want is to say 1 stupid prayer that means virtually nothing to Christ and then they're "saved". They've sprung forth many heresies and historical fables about the Church, indicating that they don't care about the Church.

The definition of no salvation outside the Catholic Church:

Does it mean that one must fully be inside the Church?

or

Does it mean that salvation only comes from Christ, through the Catholic Church?

All Protestants are heretics insofar as they deny the true Church of Christ and her Magisterium. There is not a doubt in my mind that the vast majority of Protestants will go to Hell because their religion bears no grace whatsoever. After they are baptised and are justified for the very first time, if they commit even 1 mortal sin they lose the state of grace and will go straight to Hell if they die.

The most horrible thing about this is that, as someone else said, Protestants don't care to find the truth because Protestantism suits them. It is much harder to be a Catholic than it is a Protestant, because the Protestant false religion encourages and teaches spiritual lethargy. Most Protestants don't seem to care about whether or not our faith is true. All they want is to say 1 stupid prayer that means virtually nothing to Christ and then they're "saved". They've sprung forth many heresies and historical fables about the Church, indicating that they don't care about the Church.

I found a quote from St. Augustine. I found it in a NO Catholic's post on CAF. They were refuting that Protestants are heretics.

"But though the doctrine which men hold be false and perverse, if they do not maintain it with passionate obstinacy, especially when they have not devised it by the rashness of their own presumption, but have accepted it from parents who had been misguided and had fallen into error, and if they are with anxiety seeking the truth, and are prepared to be set right when they have found it, such men are not to be counted heretics."

The Novus Ordo sectarian religion is far from being Catholic itself, so it wouldn't surprise me if they could successfully "refute" (in their own minds) no salvation outside of the Church. See, it's easy to refute something regarding the faith when you don't realize that it's condemned to do so and all of your opinions are heresies. That is what N.O. Catholics do. They condemn you and call you a heretic, schismatic, etc. and deny your Catholicity, all the while maintaining the heresies of "imperfect" communion with heretics.

Quite frankly, I'm astonished at how anyone can talk about "imperfect" communion. Are the Protestant heretics INSIDE of the Church or not? No? Then they are not "in communion" with the Church, PERIOD. To be in communion with the Church, you have to be INSIDE of it. No one would ever say that excommunicants are in communion with the Church. That's ridiculous. They are not in the Church (because they have been cast out of it and into the outer darkness), so therefore they must be outside of it. It's basic logic that doesn't register in the minds of many N.O. Catholics who don't dare question the multitude of heresies they've been fed by Vatican II.

With regards to the quote from Augustine, we see here how Augustine maintains that VII followers themselves tend to be manifest heretics. I've tried exposing the VII false religion to N.O. Catholics before, but they don't listen and use weak and ambiguous arguments to try and beat me down. They do not want to hold that Protestants are heretics because that is anti-(false)Ecuмenism. Sometimes, they even have the audacity to say that because the saints aren't infallible, we can just ignore them! How exceedingly pretentious.

Anyways.. You see, therefore, because they are obstinate in their heresies we cannot do anything but assume that they (many of them) are, in fact, heretics.

There are so many people who have more than what it takes to be elevated to sainthood when they die.. and yet they are held back and damned by heresies that they do not want to let go of.. It's very sad.. Pray for mother Church.  :cry: