Author Topic: The heresy of Lumen Gentium: Subsistit in (Read 30300 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #20 on:** July 06, 2011, 03:56:25 PM »

Quote from: ajpirc

I don't know what happened with the quotes, italics, underlines, etc.

It takes a little getting used to. I hope you don't mind, but I "fixed" your post.

ajpirc · « **Reply #21 on:** July 06, 2011, 08:43:26 PM »

Thank you gladius_veritatis

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 07, 2011, 03:53:19 AM »

ajpirc, you are having some good insights into these encyclicals and I think you have a good head on your shoulders. Keep on going with this, and I really think God is working in you. Imagine if everyone in the novus ordo modern VatII church started reading about history, about what Popes of the past church have written, and what the Church has always proclaimed prior to the major publications in Vatican II... my eye grows a tear thinking of the beauty that could be in true unity of the real Faith.

Thanks gv for the editing of ajpirc's post too.

ajpirc · « **Reply #23 on:** July 07, 2011, 08:51:31 AM »

Quote from: PartyIsOver221

ajpirc, you are having some good insights into these encyclicals and I think you have a good head on your shoulders. Keep on going with this, and I really think God is working in you. Imagine if everyone in the novus ordo modern VatII church started reading about history, about what Popes of the past church have written, and what the Church has always proclaimed prior to the major publications in Vatican II... my eye grows a tear thinking of the beauty that could be in true unity of the real Faith.

Thanks gv for the editing of ajpirc's post too.

Thank you very much, PartyIsOver221.

If I posted that same thing over at Catholic Answers Forums, I'd probably be called a heretic. It's funny how they call Protestants our "seperated bretheren" because calling someone a heretic isn't the right thing to do, yet they'd call another Catholic a heretic for being traditional. They don't see anything wrong with someone being born into Protestantism, yet when someone is born into the SSPX, they call them schismatics? Very liberal views over there.

ajpirc · « **Reply #24 on:** July 07, 2011, 10:13:21 AM »

Quote from: J.Paul

...there is no partial or imperfect communion with the Church...

This is also what confuses me. One enters the Church through Baptism, correct? Though a Protestant is outside of the Church, correct? How can a Protestant be baptized (enter into the Church), but still be outside of the Church?

I read on CAF earlier that Protestants are Catholics that don't know it and reject the Faith:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=577765 (2nd post)