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Author Topic: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore  (Read 3696 times)

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Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2017, 07:52:36 AM »

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The teaching of this encyclical is parallel with that of the allocution Singulari Quadam. In both of these docuмents Pope Pius IX insisted upon the fact that it is a dogma of the faith that no man can be saved outside the Catholic Church. Indeed, the language of the encyclical on this point is even more forceful and explicit than that of the allocution. Likewise in both of these docuмents there is a very clear implication of the truth that a man can be "within" the true Church in such a way as to be saved without being a member of this society and, indeed, without having a explicit knowledge of it at all. Moreover both the Quanto Conficiamur Moerore and the Singulari Quadaminsist upon the missionary nature of the Church and bring this truth into play in their explanations of the dogma. The encyclical, however, brings out some aspects of the teaching not touched upon directly in the allocution which was delivered almost nine years previously. The following two paragraphs of the Quanto Conficiamur Moerorehave to do with the dogma of the Church's necessity for salvation. Fenton

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Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2017, 07:56:07 AM »
With that, and for the sake of brevity, let us jump right in for in this chapter we will learn, among other things, how "the person who is invincibly ignorant of the true religion, and who sedulously[perseveringly - J. G.] obeys the natural law, lives an honest and upright life, and is prepared to obey God, can be saved through the workings of divine light and grace. Such a person has already chosen God as his ultimate End. He has done this in an act of charity. He is in the state of grace, and not in the state of original or mortal sin. In this act of charity there is involved an implicit desire of entering and remaining within God's true supernatural kingdom. Such a person has had his sins remitted 'with' the true Church of Jesus Christ."

Pure unadulterated Pelagian heresy ... based on a heretical misreading of Pius IX.  Adults who place no obstacles by way of deliberate sin towards the workings of God's light and grace will ultimately be led to salvation by these.  That is ALL that Pius IX was teaching and absolutely nothing more.  You filthy liars try to make him into a Pelagian.  You disgust me, Lover of Heresy, to the core of my being ... from your blasphemous gnostic derision of the Holy Sacrament of Baptism to your constant promotion of heresy.


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Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2017, 07:57:26 AM »
Lover of Heresy, this crap makes John Paul II look Catholic.

Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2017, 07:57:44 AM »
And here, Our Beloved Sons and Venerable Brethren, We must mention and reprove a most serious error into which some Catholics have fallen, imagining that men living in errors and apart (alienos) from the true faith and from the Catholic unity can attain to eternal life. This, of course, is completely opposed to Catholic doctrine. It is known to Us and to you that those who labor in invincible ignorance of our most holy religion, and who, carefully observing the natural law and its precepts which God has inscribed in the hearts of all, and who, being ready to obey God, live an honest and upright life, can, through the working of the divine light and grace, attain eternal life, since God, Who clearly sees, inspects, and knows the minds, the intentions, the thoughts, and the habits of all, will, by reason of His goodness and kindness, never allow anyone who has not the guilt of willful sin to be punished by eternal sufferings. But it is a perfectly well known Catholic dogma that no one can be saved outside the Catholic Church, and that those who are contumacious against the authority of that same Church, and who are pertinaciously separated from the unity of that Church and from Peter's successor, the Roman Pontiff, to whom the custody of the vineyard has been entrusted by the Savior, cannot obtain eternal salvation.

God forbid, however, that the children of the Catholic Church should in any way ever be the enemies of those who are in no way joined to us in the same bonds of faith and of charity. But let them [the Catholics] rather strive always to take care of these people when they [those outside the Church] are poor or sick or afflicted by any other ills. Primarily, let them strive to take these people out of the darkness of error in which they unfortunately live, and bring them back to the Catholic truth and to the loving Mother Church that never ceases to hold out its maternal hands affectionately to them, and to call them back to its embrace so that, established and strengthened in faith, hope, and charity, and bringing forth fruit in every good work, they may attain eternal salvation. [Denz., 1677 f.]

Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2017, 07:59:08 AM »

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There are three most important lessons contained in this section of the Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, the Holy Father's insistence upon the real necessity of the Church for salvation, his implied indication of a distinction between the necessity of means and the necessity of precept, and his teaching about the possibility of salvation for a man who is invincibly ignorant of the true religion but who faithfully observes the natural law. All of these lessons must be studied carefully by a man who seeks to know the genuine doctrine of the Catholic Church on the necessity of the Church for the attainment of eternal salvation. The teaching of the Quanto Conficiamur Moerore has a special importance because this encyclical has been misinterpreted more than once by men who offered inadequate or inaccurate explanations of the dogma that there is no salvation outside the Church. Fenton