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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2017, 11:36:47 AM »
The works of Monsignor Joseph Clifford Fenton, specifically here from The Catholic Church and Salvation, are not opinions. As we have seen, he has read every ecclesiastical work on the issue of salvation in its own language, and has put it all together for us. The truth of the salvation issue and the Catholic Church is there for all of us to see. If you look at installation two of this series you will see all the writings Father Fenton has studied and you will be able to check them yourselves if you have the means and they are still available.
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2017, 12:42:53 PM »
Quote from: Stubborn on August 28, 2017, 09:47:30 AM
The above quote is a blatant lie.  Pope St. Pius X identified Fr. Fenton in his encyclical; On the Doctrine of Modernists when he said: "Audacity is their chief characteristic".

God said that unless a man is baptized with water, (having water "poured on his head" while saying the names of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost), that he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

The kingdom of God is not only heaven, it is also the Church. Without the sacrament, no one can enter either His Kingdom in this life or in the next. This is so very simple that we learn this and wholly understand it in early childhood.

So according to God, He will damn them because water was not poured on their head. But not so according to Fr. Fenton.

Fr. Fenton makes it all so very, very convenient for the living, but not at all for the dying.
One bit of intended bias correction for consideration. Whose fault is it if someone goes to Hell? This whole God "damning" people tends to take things into the realm of emotion and imprecision. 

In other words, using that quoted as example, we damn ourselves because we don't adequately avail ourselves of God's graces. If we don't "get water poured on our heads" (which is also a bias bloated caricature i.e. it is typically an operation of guile), then it is OUR FAULT. Saying how things are doesn't make them how they are. 
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2017, 12:44:39 PM »
The good willed who labor to know and do God's will shall be blessed. They are not complacent but strive to know and embrace the Truth and all that it entails. They will be on a path that leads to the knowledge that there is no salvation outside the Catholic truth. Step by step, those of good will head toward that conclusion. And with each step they take God gives them the grace to take the next step. If they meet an untimely physical demise before their earthly journey to the fullness of truth ends God will look into their heart and reward their good will and efforts. To put it bluntly but hopefully effectively, he will not damn them to eternity because water was not poured on their heads.
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2017, 12:45:51 PM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth on August 28, 2017, 11:36:47 AM
The works of Monsignor Joseph Clifford Fenton, specifically here from The Catholic Church and Salvation, are not opinions. As we have seen, he has read every ecclesiastical work on the issue of salvation in its own language, and has put it all together for us. The truth of the salvation issue and the Catholic Church is there for all of us to see. If you look at installation two of this series you will see all the writings Father Fenton has studied and you will be able to check them yourselves if you have the means and they are still available.
:jester: :applause: :facepalm: :fryingpan: :heretic:
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: The Encyclical Quanto Conficiamur Moerore
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2017, 12:47:40 PM »
I will stress once again that this does not undermine the necessity (by necessity of precept and a relative necessity of means) of sacramental Baptism for salvation. Those who are aware of this necessity or should be aware of it and remain in culpable ignorance or put it off due to their own negligence will be damned.
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