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Gregory I · « **Reply #55 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:39:50 AM »

So, proving to others that you do not hold to an heretical understanding of a dogma is not important to you?

Is that a Catholic attitude? What would Mary say?

Augustinian · « **Reply #56 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:41:47 AM »

1325 §1: "The faithful are bound to profess their faith openly whenever under the
circuмstances silence, evasion, or their manner of acting would otherwise
implicitly amount to a denial of the faith, or would involve contempt of religion,
an offense to God, or scandal to the neighbor."

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #57 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:42:04 AM »

Quote from: Augustinian

Quote from: Roman Catholic

:rolleyes:

You don't seem to comprehend that we Roman Catholics are not subject to you feeneyites! There is a principle involved here. - You have no authority to command us to recite anything.

I already told you I don’t adhere to any heresies. I am a Roman Catholic who, with integrity, recites approved creeds of the Church. You should not be so presumptuous and audacious to demand more than Holy Church herself does!

I will not recite any of the erroneous formulae that you have demanded I recite.

You have no authority to demand I recite any of your pathetic homespun formulae, even if you come up with one that is not erroneous.

You are a pitiable example of a feeneyite, puffed up with your own sense of self-importance. You have to get over your arrogance.

Yeah, that's just what I thought.

The Church requires us to believe everything she teaches infallibly, not only those things explicitly contained in the creeds. That's why the creeds say "I profess all other doctrines she professes, and anathematize all other errors she anathematizes."

The "pathetic, homespun formulae" are the teachings of the Council of Carthage, the Council of Lyons, the Council of Florence, and the Council of Trent. You are a blasphemer to call their dogmatic teachings "pathetic".

You don't seem to comprehend that Catholics are obliged to clarify their beliefs if silence or evasion would constitute an implicit denial of the faith or give scandal to your neighbor.

1325 §1: "The faithful are bound to profess their faith openly whenever under the
circuмstances silence, evasion, or their manner of acting would otherwise
implicitly amount to a denial of the faith, or would involve contempt of religion,
an offense to God, or scandal to the neighbor."

Yawn and :rolleyes:

I am not even going to dignify your bs with any more replies.

You feeney-whatevers are the ones who are in error.

Gregory I · « **Reply #58 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:45:27 AM »

The assertion of an opinion does not constitute a fact. If a person believes something he needs more than just his emotions to do the thinking for him. He needs his intellect and will to take over.

I am sorry that you do not find it necessary to demonstrate your orthodoxy when it seems it might be questionable on several issues.

BUT, I have no right to make demands of you, acknowledged.

Very well. May God look and judge.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #59 on:** January 14, 2012, 11:56:36 AM »

Quote from: Gregory I

The assertion of an opinion does not constitute a fact. If a person believes something he needs more than just his emotions to do the thinking for him. He needs his intellect and will to take over.

I am sorry that you do not find it necessary to demonstrate your orthodoxy when it seems it might be questionable on several issues.

BUT, I have no right to make demands of you, acknowledged.

Very well. May God look and judge.

The point is that it only seems questionable to you dudes, due to errors you hold or rashness, or both.

You have tried to set yourselves up as the judges of when and why it is necessary.

You have no justification, or authority for your presumptious demands, pressings, requests.

Settle down.