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Telesphorus · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2012, 05:52:29 PM »

Quote from: Augstine Baker

Slippery slope fallacy, huh?

Where'd you get that?

Belief in BoD makes inevitable belief in universal salvation and indifferentism.

That's a ridiculous slippery slope fallacy.

It doesn't surprise me that you resort to mockery, seeing as your position is totally threadbare.

Father Feeney put his opinion above that of St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Alphonsus Liguori because he was a crank. And people who intentionally misread the Council of Trent to pretend it doesn't allow for Baptism of Desire are cranks.

End of discussion.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2012, 05:55:19 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Augstine Baker

Slippery slope fallacy, huh?

Where'd you get that?

If you believe in BoD then it's inevitable that people believe in universal salvation and indifferentism.

It doesn't surprise me that you resort to mockery, seeing as your position is totally threadbare.

Father Feeney put himself above St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Alphonsus Liguori because he was a crank. And people who intentionally misread the Council of Trent to pretend it doesn't allow for Baptism of Desire are cranks.

End of discussion.

You do exactly what you're accusing Father Feeney of doing all the time and you don't know what a slippery slope fallacy is.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2012, 05:59:07 PM »

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You do exactly what you're accusing Father Feeney of doing all the time

Okay. Way to be light on the specifics.

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and you don't know what a slippery slope fallacy is.

In the classical form, the arguer suggests that making a move in a particular direction ([that is accepting baptism of desire) starts something on a path down a "slippery slope". Having started down the metaphorical slope, it will continue to slide in the same direction (the arguer usually sees the direction as a negative direction, hence the "sliding downwards)"(Baptism of Desire inevitably leads to the position of Avery Dulles)

How so?

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2012, 06:02:27 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Augstine Baker
You do exactly what you're accusing Father Feeney of doing all the time

Okay. Way to be light on the specifics.

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and you don't know what a slippery slope fallacy is.

In the classical form, the arguer suggests that making a move in a particular direction ([that is accepting baptism of desire) starts something on a path down a "slippery slope". Having started down the metaphorical slope, it will continue to slide in the same direction (the arguer usually sees the direction as a negative direction, hence the "sliding downwards)"(Baptism of Desire inevitably leads to the position of Avery Dulles)

How so?

Can "slippery slope" arguments be valid?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2012, 06:05:50 PM »

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Can "slippery slope" arguments be valid?

It certainly isn't valid to say that accepting BoD leads to universal salvation.