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Author Topic: The Catechism of the Council of Trent does not teach Baptism of Desire  (Read 64691 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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You're constantly shifting accusations, charges, etc. trying to save face and win arguments. It's pathetic.

More nonsense and misdirection.  You falsely accused me of reading the St. Fulgentius interpretation into Trent, when I did no such thing.  I merely stated that it's a possible reading of it (vs. the BoD reading) and that ultimately the Catechism is silent on the matter.  You're the one who keeps insisting that it must be read the "Rheims" way.

Offline DecemRationis

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You falsely accused me of reading the St. Fulgentius interpretation into Trent, when I did no such thing. 
 
:jester::jester::jester:

Why don’t you quote me making such an “accusation”? Instead of just throwing more of your deceptive rhetorical cover.


It's silent about HOW, whether this means keeping them alive until their Baptism 

Offline Pax Vobis

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Per the title of this thread...Trent does not "teach" BOD.  Very true. 

It mentions "desire of baptism" but it doesn't teach or explain what that is, who qualifies, how it must be believed, etc.

Every other doctrine defined by an ecuмenical council CLEARLY and UNMISTAKENLY explains those doctrines in detail, with much explanation and theological thoughts.  BOD isn't at all in the same category as defined doctrines for this simple reason alone.

A doctrine defined by a council should stand on its own.  One should be able to read the council docuмents ALONE and understand what the teaching is.  The simple fact is that no one can do this.  Everyone who tries to explain BOD cannot use Trent, except to say it mentions "desire".  To explain BOD, one has to give countless #s of quotes from saints and stories from history.  St Thomas and St Augustine are more explanatory than Trent BY FAR.

When one cannot use a council to explain a supposed doctrine, then that's a sign it was never defined.

Per the title of this thread...Trent does not "teach" BOD.  Very true. 
No, the title of this thread is false. It states that the CATECHISM of the Council of Trent does not teach Baptism of Desire.

The Catechism clearly states that if adults are prevented by some obstacle from receiving the sacrament of baptism, their intention of receiving it and their repentance from past sins will avail them unto grace and justification.