Author Topic: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy (Read 32410 times)

Papa Pius V · « **Reply #85 on:** February 05, 2021, 01:52:41 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn on February 05, 2021, 12:02:35 PM

"One of the most outstanding prophets of our time." Hamish Fraser
"The greatest theologian we have in the United States, by far." Rev. John J. McEleny, S.J., (Father's Jesuit Provincial)
"The greatest theologian in the Catholic Church today." — John Cardinal Wright

Again for the millionth time, you are the one misinterpreting Trent - and we finally agree, you don't get to do that.

A criterion of Catholic theology is the science of faith. Theology strives to understand what the Church believes and why it believes.
Feeney did not hold to Church teaching therefore he was not a theologian in any real sense i.e no more a theologian than Pastor John Doe.

I haven't even talked about Trent other than saying I won't talk about it

Papa Pius V · « **Reply #86 on:** February 05, 2021, 01:55:06 PM »

Quote from: Meg on February 05, 2021, 12:02:31 PM

Can you explain more about how Fr. Feeney had Calvinistic leanings? I haven't head that before. I usually avoid discussions about Fr. Feeney, because I haven't studied much about him.

https://stevensperay.wordpress.com/2018/04/26/how-feeneyism-is-like-calvinism/

Papa Pius V · « **Reply #87 on:** February 05, 2021, 01:56:35 PM »

Quote from: Stanley N on February 05, 2021, 12:03:17 PM

OK, so what do you think is the position of truth?

The Church's position.
BOB is for the explicitly believing martyr who was not baptized by water and who shed his blood for Christ, BOD is for the catechumen who desires baptism but dies before receiving it.

Papa Pius V · « **Reply #88 on:** February 05, 2021, 01:58:40 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on February 05, 2021, 12:27:44 PM

You haven't heard this because Papa doesn't know what he's talking about. Father Feeney was no more Calvinist than St. Augustine was, with the latter rejecting Baptism of Desire in his later years due to his realization that it was implicitly Pelagian. His suggestion that the anti-BoD position (held by a number of Church Fathers) is Calvinist actually sheds some light on his psychology, why he's so obsessed with promoting Baptism of Desire.

This man clearly has some major ax to grid against Feeneyism other than simply being against it. Lover of Heresy was on the same crusade due to his having "almost been" converted to Feeneyism ... or something like that.

What a stupid response.

What is Calvinism but hyper-Augustinianism?

St. Augustine's theology is not infallible as clearly seen by the Church's condemnation of both Calvinism and Jansenism, both of which are deeply Augustinian, more than the Catholic Church I might add.

Papa Pius V · « **Reply #89 on:** February 05, 2021, 02:00:40 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on February 05, 2021, 12:37:19 PM

My guess is that his notion is related to Calvinistic predesination. But St. Augustine's notion of predestination (alluded to in the previous citation I just made) has nothing to do with Calvinism, but, rather, anti-Pelagianism.

Here's an excellent, scholarly, and well-balanced discussion regarding the theological status of Baptism of Desire:
https://catholicism.org/baptism-of-desire-its-origin-and-abandonment-in-the-thought-of-saint-augustine.html

The article was written by a Feeneyite organization, funny enough. Anyway its not a bad article. It is fair and well balanced, but again St. Augustine is not the Catholic Church.

If you want Augustinianism then become a Calvinist or an Old Roman Catholic (Jansenism).

CathInfo.com

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