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Author Topic: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy  (Read 33095 times)

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Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2021, 11:54:51 AM »
You are discussing a BOD, whatever that is, not Trent anyway. BODers necessarily MUST reject Trent, you are no different because you are a BODer.

So why not simply give in and show us all your theological brilliance by actually answering the questions I asked.
My "theological brilliance" lies in being a son of the Church following the Holy Fathers, Doctors, and theologians. I am slave of the Church. Not my own opinions like you.

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Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2021, 11:58:03 AM »
Baptism of Desire is Catholic Doctrine. The necessity of the Catholic Faith for Salvation is also a certain Doctrine.

Uhm, no, EENS is not merely "certain Doctrine" but is, rather, (thrice-)defined dogma.  So is, BTW, the necessity of the Sacrament of Baptism for salvation.  Any discussion of BoD must necessarily be articulated in a way that retains the Sacrament as the instrumental cause of justification.  90% of BoD theorists fail this test and in fact fall into heresy in their articulation of BoD.  90% of BoDers are Pelagians.

BoD on the other hand is no dogma.  It's never been defined, and the proof for that is the half-dozen or so variants on it that you'll find among various BoD theorists.  If the Church has defined that it must be believed, then WHAT must be believed about it?  There's nothing more than a mere passing reference to it here or there in any Magisterial sources ... without any clear DEFINITION.  You can't claim that something must be believed when it's unclear WHAT must be believed about it.  Otherwise, to claim that someone believes in a BoD is just semantics and lip service.

So the heretical impetus is clearly on the BoD side, with 90% of it undermining Catholic dogma, while BoD itself is nothing more than unrevealed theological speculation.


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Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2021, 11:58:47 AM »
My "theological brilliance" lies in being a son of the Church following the Holy Fathers, Doctors, and theologians. I am slave of the Church. Not my own opinions like you.

This is LoT speak for sure, elevating your own personal interpretation of Church teaching to being the same as the Church teaching itself.

Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2021, 12:00:30 PM »
I am slave of the Church.
You are not supposed to be a slave, but a son, and thus, an heir. A slave has no inheritance. (I know some speak of slavery to God, or slavery to the Blessed Virgin so I don't want to argue that point). But are you a slave to Pope Francis as a traditionalist who is not a sede?

Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2021, 12:02:29 PM »
This is LoT speak for sure, elevating your own personal interpretation of Church teaching to being the same as the Church teaching itself.
:facepalm:
You have proven your inability to think and respond rationally numerous times.
You're just being a troll at this point.