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Author Topic: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy  (Read 33221 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2021, 11:13:20 AM »
Point it out explicitly, buffoon.

You're actually dumber than what I first gave you credit for:
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The Feeneyite believes Baptism of Desire and Blood is heresy against the definitions of the Council of Trent. Therefore

Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2021, 11:14:50 AM »
You're actually dumber than what I first gave you credit for:
How is that inconsistent with what I have been saying?
Are you an idiot? Serious question.


Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2021, 11:20:19 AM »
Baptism of Desire is Catholic Doctrine. The necessity of the Catholic Faith for Salvation is also a certain Doctrine. Pope St. Pius X, following St. Alphonsus and the other Doctors, defines the doctrine of Baptism of Desire as an act of Perfect Love of God, or of Contrition, along with the Desire, explicit or implicit, of the Sacrament of Baptism. In another place, the same Holy Father teaches that all who are saved had embraced the Catholic Faith (which means explicitly at least the Holy Trinity and Incarnation) before death. It follows that all who receive the Baptism of Desire will be led by God to embrace the Catholic Faith, at least at the point of death. This is also taught by Fr. Michael Mueller in a 19th Century Catechism approved by Rome. There is a minority view which is permitted by the Magisterium of the Church that faith that God Exists and that He rewards is sufficient for salvation; but the Doctors commonly teach that explicit faith in Christ is a necessary means of salvation. This was the state of the question before Vatican II and it still is today. 

Offline Stubborn

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Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2021, 11:36:00 AM »
Another Feeneyite leaves Catholicism to make his own sect via his understanding.
You are the one who says salvation can be obtained via desire for the sacrament - but I left Catholicism for saying, with Trent, that the sacraments are necessary for salvation and that without the desire for the sacraments there is no justification? :facepalm:

You have established that you will not answer simple questions because doing so would prove you either wrong or a liar, but please, do explain your above comment.

Please note, Trent does not even teach that the sacrament of baptism will save anyone, only that it is necessary for salvation. Did you know that? Well, you know that now.

Offline Stubborn

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Re: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2021, 11:40:19 AM »
Baptism of Desire is Catholic Doctrine.
No, it's not. If you say that, without the sacraments, or without the desire thereof, men obtain of God, through faith alone, the grace of justification, I will let you be anathema as Trent directs.