Author Topic: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy (Read 32429 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #80 on:** February 05, 2021, 12:27:44 PM »

Quote from: Meg on February 05, 2021, 12:02:31 PM

Can you explain more about how Fr. Feeney had Calvinistic leanings? I haven't head that before. I usually avoid discussions about Fr. Feeney, because I haven't studied much about him.

You haven't heard this because Papa doesn't know what he's talking about. Father Feeney was no more Calvinist than St. Augustine was, with the latter rejecting Baptism of Desire in his later years due to his realization that it was implicitly Pelagian. His suggestion that the anti-BoD position (held by a number of Church Fathers) is Calvinist actually sheds some light on his psychology, why he's so obsessed with promoting Baptism of Desire.

This man clearly has some major ax to grid against Feeneyism other than simply being against it. Lover of Heresy was on the same crusade due to his having "almost been" converted to Feeneyism ... or something like that.

Meg · « **Reply #81 on:** February 05, 2021, 12:30:18 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on February 05, 2021, 12:27:44 PM

You haven't heard this because Papa doesn't know what he's talking about. Father Feeney was no more Calvinist than St. Augustine was, with the latter rejecting Baptism of Desire in his later years due to his realization that it was implicitly Pelagian. His suggestion that the anti-BoD position (held by a number of Church Fathers) is Calvinist actually sheds some light on his psychology, why he's so obsessed with promoting Baptism of Desire.

This man clearly has some major ax to grid against Feeneyism other than simply being against it. Lover of Heresy was on the same crusade due to his having "almost been" converted to Feeneyism ... or something like that.

Okay, thanks. I still hope that Papa will respond, so that he can say why he thinks that Fr. Feeney had Calvinistic leanings. Maybe it has something to do with Calvin's goofy views on predestination, but maybe it doesn't.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #82 on:** February 05, 2021, 12:35:00 PM »

In point of fact, a majority of Feeneyites don't rule out BoD as a HYPOTHETICAL possibility, but hold that it simply doesn't happen because God cannot be thwarted by impossibility from bringing His elect to the Sacrament of Baptism.

St. Augustine:

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Perish the thought that a person predestined to eternal life could be allowed to end this life without the sacrament of the mediator.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #83 on:** February 05, 2021, 12:37:19 PM »

Quote from: Meg on February 05, 2021, 12:30:18 PM

Okay, thanks. I still hope that Papa will respond, so that he can say why he thinks that Fr. Feeney had Calvinistic leanings. Maybe it has something to do with Calvin's goofy views on predestination, but maybe it doesn't.

My guess is that his notion is related to Calvinistic predesination. But St. Augustine's notion of predestination (alluded to in the previous citation I just made) has nothing to do with Calvinism, but, rather, anti-Pelagianism.

Here's an excellent, scholarly, and well-balanced discussion regarding the theological status of Baptism of Desire:
https://catholicism.org/baptism-of-desire-its-origin-and-abandonment-in-the-thought-of-saint-augustine.html

Meg · « **Reply #84 on:** February 05, 2021, 12:46:29 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on February 05, 2021, 12:37:19 PM

My guess is that his notion is related to Calvinistic predesination. But St. Augustine's notion of predestination (alluded to in the previous citation I just made) has nothing to do with Calvinism, but, rather, anti-Pelagianism.

Here's an excellent, scholarly, and well-balanced discussion regarding the theological status of Baptism of Desire:
https://catholicism.org/baptism-of-desire-its-origin-and-abandonment-in-the-thought-of-saint-augustine.html

Thanks. I'll read the link.

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