Author Topic: The Absurdities of The Feeneyite Heresy (Read 32230 times)

Stubborn · « **Reply #190 on:** February 09, 2021, 01:26:11 PM »

Quote from: ByzCat3000 on February 09, 2021, 12:14:33 PM

I still think Stubborn's mentality is super problematic though. It basically amounts to "All these saints were just dumb and didn't read Trent."

Its like Sola Scriptura with magisterial docuмents

You guys have a reading comprehension problem. Read my post above and explain where exactly I am misquoting Trent.

Before you go making false claims, you really should know what you are talking about first yourself.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #191 on:** February 09, 2021, 01:36:47 PM »

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It basically amounts to "All these saints were just dumb and didn't read Trent."

Emotion and sentimentality can cloud the reason. People, even Saints, can make "dumb" decisions that, from their point of view, seemed correct.
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Most of those who promote the super-BOD doctrine, start off with the sentimental mindset, "How can we define BOD to save the most souls?" But that's just a humanized, over-exaggerated use of God's mercy. God always balances His mercy with His justice....and He did so looooong ago, before earth was ever created, as Scripture says, "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you." God knows from all eternity the circuмstances of our birth, our personality/nature and our entire life beforehand. So He ordains His mercy + justice to correspond with the graces He knows we will accept. It's an absolute mystery which none of us can comprehend.
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We aren't allowed to humanize salvation; all those who make it to heaven do so justly. All those who don't make heaven, also is a matter of justice.

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #192 on:** February 09, 2021, 01:40:49 PM »

Quote from: XavierSem on February 09, 2021, 11:01:09 AM

God can provide the Sacrament wherever and whenever He chooses. And He does. And He can also provide forgiveness through Perfect Contrition wherever and whenever He chooses. And He does. The Church has spoken. The case is closed. Baptism of Desire exists.

Unwittingly, the writer finally clearly reveals his real belief which is that "God can provide the Sacrament wherever and whenever He chooses. ..And He can also provide forgiveness through Perfect Contrition wherever and whenever He chooses", that the sacraments and the Church are not necessary. That is the foundational pillar of Implicit Faith'ers, but it is not taught by any saint or pope or council. That false "doctrine" is at the root of all the errors of Vatican II. That is how they rationalize their end run around all the saints, doctors, councils, popes, to teach that Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jҽωs, indeed, that people in any religions can be saved.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #193 on:** February 09, 2021, 01:47:19 PM »

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God can provide the Sacrament wherever and whenever He chooses. ...Baptism of Desire exists.

Except BOD isn't a sacrament. Trent says water is necessary for the sacrament. Back to the "apparent" contradiction.

Stubborn · « **Reply #194 on:** February 09, 2021, 01:54:31 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on February 09, 2021, 01:36:47 PM

Emotion and sentimentality can cloud the reason. People, even Saints, can make "dumb" decisions that, from their point of view, seemed correct.

It's not even that Pax, they quote the saints ad nausem and NEVER quote Trent, then when Trent is quoted for the purpose of demonstrating what the Church actually teaches, all they say is it's being misinterpreted - without ever pointing out how or where the misinterpretation is, apparently because they do not know what Trent even does say, in this way they can just say it's misinterpreted and they can keep posting from catechisms and saints.

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