Author Topic: The Absolute necessity of Water Baptism (Read 21737 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #55 on:** August 19, 2009, 01:25:41 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Quote from: gladius veritatis
grace BUILDS UPON nature; it does not DESTROY it
I never stated contrary to this, don't try to twist my words.

I never said you DID state it, CM (talk about "twisting" words). However, you entire attitude clearly shows you see things too darkly.

You called the advice to take a walk in the woods - something St Bernard, and all of humanity besides, took as quite good for the soul - "worldly", as if I told you to go to a strip bar.

You NEED decent, wholesome recreation - a lot of it. You need the light of life and love to shine upon your darkness (which you, mistakenly, take for light).

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #56 on:** August 19, 2009, 01:39:30 AM »

Why do you think it "worldly" to go outside, or walk in the woods, or take innocent pleasure in a funny movie, or enjoy, in a wholesome manner, the company of a beautiful woman?

Are these things the same as time spent in mental prayer, the use of the discipline, etc? No, but the bow and string cannot always be stretched. Eventually they will break.

CM · « **Reply #57 on:** August 19, 2009, 02:12:34 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

You NEED decent, wholesome recreation - a lot of it. You need the light of life and love to shine upon your darkness (which you, mistakenly, take for light).

Sir, you are making assumptions. I have wholesome recreation thank you. It seems you think I see things too darkly because I realize that all who die as non-Catholics WILL go to hell, and I live my life accordingly.

I guess you don't realize that the only Catholics I know are many miles away from me, so you didn't realize that I have no women whose company I can enjoy. As for movies I do not know of any that I can watch without sin. If you do, then please be my guest and suggest.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #58 on:** August 19, 2009, 02:29:38 AM »

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...I realize that all who die as non-Catholics WILL go to hell...

Gee, so do I! :cheers:

Did you, or did you not, call my advice "worldly"? Have you not, in effect, clearly retreated from that statement? If so, why? If so, why not speak plainly about the fact that you did so?

There are actually quite a few good films that are both hilarious and decent, just as there are plenty of films that are full of action (or other themes) that are decent. Yes, there are MORE that are trash, but that is another matter.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #59 on:** August 19, 2009, 02:33:05 AM »

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It seems you think I see things too darkly because I realize that all who die as non-Catholics WILL go to hell, and I live my life accordingly.

I think you see things too darkly because it is obvious that you do so. You called advice to walk in the woods, do something that makes you laugh (a move was just ONE possible suggestion), or have an innocent dinner with a woman, worldly.

St Philip Neri would probably scandalize you to no end if you met him.