Don't you understand? The words of the Gospel are clear. There are those who are with Christ and those who are against Him. My mother is against Him. She is a heretic, who needs to convert before death, or she will go to hell. As such I cannot associate with her. To do so would be to tacitly consent to her false religion.
I was raised to be an apostate by apostate parents.
What would you have me do? Say that she can give me advice because she's a couple decades older than me?
Advice about what Gladius?
I fully acknowledge that she could teach me how to sew. She taught me how to eat healthy. I'm grateful for those things, sure. But these are of no value for salvation, which is the chief interest of any wise person.
She also taught me that there is a God, but she directed me to the wrong one, a false 'jesus christ'. She is still worshiping her false god. She is spiritually poisoned and I REFUSE to expose myself to this.
Again, you have issues - rather serious ones. Somewhat happily, anyone who reads this thread can see that as plainly as they see the light of the sun.
Anybody who reads this thread can see that I love my parents enough to admonish them for being heretics, and to abstain from communion with them. If I were to pretend nothing was wrong, I would be a scandal to them, leading them to think that I don't really believe they are on the road to hell. THAT would be unjust, and a mortal sin of omission.
Because they are heretics, I cannot have dinner with them, I cannot be buddy buddy with them, all I can do is wait for them to call me up and say "David we want to talk about the Catholic Faith, we want to convert,"
I have tried more times than I probably should to get them to listen to reason, but they are the most obstinate people I know. When they are faced with questions they cannot answer, they revert to emotion and rationality flies out the window. It makes no more sense for me to keep trying to convert them, and it would be utterly foolish to pretend that nothing is wrong.
Don't you know Gladius, that Scripture warns us to be vigilant against the enemies of God?
The only interaction any person should have with heretics and apostates, pagans or Jews is the bare minimum that is necessary to get through each day, until they show signs of good will and a desire to convert.
This is the Catholic position.
2 St. John 1:9-10: "Whosoever revolteth, and continueth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that continueth in the doctrine, the same hath both the Father and the Son.
If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you."
1 Corinthians 5:11 "But now I have written to you, not to keep company, if any man that is named a brother, be a fornicator, or covetous,
or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner:
with such a one, not so much as to eat."
St. Matthew 10:34-37 "Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.
For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's enemies shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me."
St. Mark 6:11: "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you; going forth from thence, shake off the dust from your feet for a testimony to them. "
Titus 3:10-11: "A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid: Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment."
St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Communication with Excommunicated Persons: "On the contrary, It is written (1 Corinthians 5:11): "With such an one not so much as to eat."
I answer that, Excommunication is twofold: there is minor excommunication, which deprives a man merely of a share in the sacraments, but not of the communion of the faithful. Wherefore it is lawful to communicate with a person lying under an excommunication of this kind, but not to give him the sacraments. The other is major excommunication which deprives a man of the sacraments of the Church and of the communion of the faithful. Wherefore it is not lawful to communicate with one who lies under such an excommunication. But, since the Church resorts to excommunication to repair and not to destroy, exception is made from this general law,
in certain matters wherein communication is lawful, viz. in those which concern salvation, for one is allowed to speak of such matters with an excommunicated person;[ie; try to convert them] and one may even speak of other matters so as to put him at his ease and to make the words of salvation more acceptable. Moreover exception is made in favor of certain people whose business it is to be in attendance on the excommunicated person, viz. his wife, child, slave, vassal or subordinate. This, however, is to be understood of children who have not attained their majority,
else they are forbidden to communicate with their father: and as to the others, the exception applies to them if they have entered his service before his excommunication, but not if they did so afterwards."
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