Author Topic: St. John Chrysostom on the Necessity of Water (Read 2991 times)

Stubborn · « **Reply #45 on:** **Today** at 06:05:54 AM »

Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 02:25:49 PM

Lol. I stick to what the Church teaches. Rather than rely on my own emotions.

You are hypocritically relying on your own emotions and are only saying this bit of bs out of fear of being wrong, your pride will not let you bend to the truth. You must ALWAYS remember that the Church cannot teach anything contrary to the words of Christ because Christ and the Church are one.

Christ said: "Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

The Church explains that passage:
"Unless a man be born again": By these words our Saviour hath declared the necessity of baptism; and by the word water it is evident that the application of it is necessary with the words.

Can a man enter the Kingdom of God who has not been born again of water and the Holy Ghost? Yes or no?

TomGubbinsKimmage · « **Reply #46 on:** **Today** at 09:14:15 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on Today at 06:05:54 AM

You are hypocritically relying on your own emotions and are only saying this bit of bs out of fear of being wrong, your pride will not let you bend to the truth. You must ALWAYS remember that the Church cannot teach anything contrary to the words of Christ because Christ and the Church are one.

Christ said: "Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

The Church explains that passage:
"Unless a man be born again": By these words our Saviour hath declared the necessity of baptism; and by the word water it is evident that the application of it is necessary with the words.

Can a man enter the Kingdom of God who has not been born again of water and the Holy Ghost? Yes or no?

I gave all the quotes showing you how denying BOD is a mortal sin.

Lazarus · « **Reply #47 on:** **Today** at 01:17:08 PM »

Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Today at 09:14:15 AM

I gave all the quotes showing you how denying BOD is a mortal sin.

Catechism of St Pius X :

29 Q: What is required for a sin to be mortal?

A: For a sin to be mortal three things are required: (1) Grave matter, (2) Full advertence, (3) Perfect consent of the will.

30 Q: When is the matter to be considered grave?

A: The matter is grave when the thing under examination is seriously contrary to the laws of God and His Church.

31 Q: When is there full advertence in sinning?

A: Full advertence in sinning is had when we know perfectly well that we are doing a serious evil

32 Q: When is perfect consent of the will verified in sinning?

A: Perfect consent of the will is verified in sinning when we deliberately determine to do a thing although we know that thing to be sinful.

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Author Topic: St. John Chrysostom on the Necessity of Water (Read 2991 times)

Stubborn

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