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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => The Feeneyism Ghetto => Topic started by: Ladislaus on February 09, 2020, 03:33:53 PM
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XavierSem keeps pushing this error that souls can be saved by belonging to the "soul" of the Church while remaining outside the Body. I pointed out that Pius XII taught the contrary, and that Msgr. Fenton also taught that this was an error.
So today I ran across these --
St. Augustine:
The Catholic Church alone is the body of Christ; the Holy Ghost gives life to no one who is out of this body.” (Epist. 185, § 50, Edit. Bened.)
St. Augustine:
a Christian ought to fear nothing so much as to be separated from the body of Christ (the Church). For, if he be separated from the body of Christ, he is not a member of Christ; if not a member of Christ, he is not quickened by his Spirit.” (Tract. xxvii. in Joan., n. 6, Col. 1992, tom. iii.)
XavierSem cited the Catechism of St. Pius X, but the Catechism is merely referring to people who are "on the way of (or path to) salvation" being drawn by the Holy Spirit, and that is in fact the teaching of the Council of Trent, that the Holy Spirit (which Pius XII taught is the soul of the Church) draws them toward the Church even while they remain outside.
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Pius XII
Mediator Dei, On the Sacred Liturgy, 1947
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius12/p12media.htm
43. In the same way, actually that baptism is the distinctive mark of all Christians, and serves to differentiate them from those who have not been cleansed in this purifying stream and consequently are not members of Christ, the sacrament of holy orders sets the priest apart from the rest of the faithful who have not received this consecration.
The Teaching of the Catholic Church: A Summary of Catholic Doctrine, Volume II by Canon George D. Smith
https://archive.org/details/teachingofthecat010346mbp/page/n27/mode/2up
Page 666
The teaching of St. Augustine is so full that it might well fill a volume. The Church is the body of Christ and the Holy Ghost is the soul of that body ; for the Holy Ghost does in the Church all that the soul does in all the members of one body ; hence the Holy Ghost is for the body of Jesus, which is the Church, what the soul is for the human body. Therefore if we wish to live of the Holy Ghost, if we wish to remain united to him, we must preserve charity,love truth, will unity, and persevere in the Catholic faith ; for just as a member amputated from the body is no longer vivified by the soul, so he who has ceased to belong to the Church receives no more the life of the Holy Spirit. 4 " The Catholic Church alone is the body of Christ . . . outside that body the Holy Spirit gives life to no man . . consequently those who are outside the Church have not the Holy Spirit." 5 " His body is the Church, not this Church or that Church, but the Church throughout the whole world ; . . .for the whole Church, consisting of all the faithful, since all the faithful are members of Christ, has in Heaven that Head which rules his body." 6 In his De Unitate Ecclesiae (2), he tells us that " the Church is the body of Christ, as the Apostle teaches. 7 Whence it is manifest that he who is not a member of Christ cannot share in the salvation of Christ.
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Pope Pius XII - 1943
Mystici Corporis, The Mystical Body of Christ, the Church
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius12/p12mysti.htm
22. Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith, and who have not been so unfortunate as to separate themselves from the unity of the Body, or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed.
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27 . . . He also determined that through Baptism those who should believe would be incorporated in the Body of the Church . . .
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59. What We have said concerning the “mystical Head” would indeed be incomplete if We were not at least briefly to touch on this saying of the same Apostle: “Christ is the Head of the Church: he is the Savior of his Body.” For in these words we have the final reason why the Body of the Church is given the name of Christ, namely, that Christ is the Divine Savior of this Body. The Samaritans were right in proclaiming Him “Savior of the world”; for indeed He most certainly is to be called the “Savior of all men,” even though we must add with Paul: “especially of the faithful, since, before all others, He has purchased with His Blood His members who constitute the Church.
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XavierSem cited the Catechism of St. Pius X, but the Catechism is merely referring to people who are "on the way of (or path to) salvation" being drawn by the Holy Spirit, and that is in fact the teaching of the Council of Trent, that the Holy Spirit (which Pius XII taught is the soul of the Church) draws them toward the Church even while they remain outside.
Leo XIII - 1896
Satis Cognitum
On the Unity of the Church
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/leo13/l13satis.htm
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Another head like to Christ must be invented – that is, another Christ if besides the one Church, which is His body, men wish to set up another. “See what you must beware of – see what you must avoid – see what you must dread. It happens that, as in the human body, some member may be cut off a hand, a finger, a foot. Does the soul follow the amputated member? As long as it was in the body, it lived; separated, it forfeits its life. So the Christian is a Catholic as long as he lives in the body: cut off from it he becomes a heretic – the life of the spirit follows not the amputated member” (S. Augustinus, Sermo cclxvii., n. 4).
The Church of Christ, therefore, is one and the same for ever; those who leave it depart from the will and command of Christ, the Lord – leaving the path of salvation they enter on that of perdition. “Whosoever is separated from the Church is united to an adulteress. He has cut himself off from the promises of the Church, and he who leaves the Church of Christ cannot arrive at the rewards of Christ….He who observes not this unity observes not the law of God, holds not the faith of the Father and the Son, clings not to life and salvation” (S. Cyprianus, De Cath. Eccl. Unitate, n. 6).
Nicholas IV
Supra Motem
On the Third Rule of the Third Order of St. Francis August 17, 1289
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/nichol04/supra-motem.htm
Upon the mountain of the Catholic Faith, which the sincere devotion of the disciples of Christ–boiling with the fire of charity–has thoroughly taught with the word of solicitous preaching to the peoples of the nations who walked in shadows, and which the Roman Church holds and guards, the solid foundation of the Christian religion is recognized to have been placed, never to be shaken by any disturbance, never to be violently shaken by the commotion of any storm. For indeed this is the Right, and True Faith, without the familiarity of which no one welcome is brought into the sight of the Most High, no one gracious is encountered. This is that, which prepares the path of salvation, and which promises the rewards and joys of eternal felicity.
Pius IX - 1846
Qui Pluribus
On Faith and Religion
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius09/p9quiplu.htm
10. (. . .) And the Church is where Peter is, and Peter speaks in the Roman Pontiff, living at all times in his successors and making judgment, providing the truth of the faith to those who seek it. The divine words therefore mean what this Roman See of the most blessed Peter holds and has held.
11. For this mother and teacher of all the churches has always preserved entire and unharmed the faith entrusted to it by Christ the Lord. Furthermore, it has taught it to the faithful, showing all men truth and the path of salvation.