Author Topic: St. Aug St. Thomas Salamances on BOD (Read 6190 times)

bowler · « **Reply #45 on:** October 25, 2013, 05:53:41 AM »

Dear Stubborn,

You will find that SJB just post irrelevant 1 liners (of whatever pops into his head) just to derail or dilute the subject of a thread. It is best just to ignore his postings or else he will accomplish his purpose. I'd suggest using the ignore button, as he never makes anything but one line derailments on this subject of BOD.

Example:

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The "feeneyites," are those who hold the error that only defined dogmas must be held by Catholics.

That is the same ignorant cliche as:

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"Catholics" are those who hold the error of worshipping the pope, Mary, and statues.

SJB · « **Reply #46 on:** October 25, 2013, 07:21:37 AM »

Quote from: bowler

Dear Stubborn,

You will find that SJB just post irrelevant 1 liners (of whatever pops into his head) just to derail or dilute the subject of a thread. It is best just to ignore his postings or else he will accomplish his purpose. I'd suggest using the ignore button, as he never makes anything but one line derailments on this subject of BOD.

Example:
Quote from: SJB

The "feeneyites," are those who hold the error that only defined dogmas must be held by Catholics.

That is the same ignorant cliche as:

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"Catholics" are those who hold the error of worshipping the pope, Mary, and statues.

Bowler, you and stubborn are on record saying defined dogmas "as written" are the only thing that truly matters. Everything else is "not infallible" and you argue with whatever doesn't suit your agenda. So yes, you are exactly like the Protestant who erroneously believes something different (Catholics believe in worshipping the pope, Mary, and statues) that the error that you believe (Catholics only hold defined dogmas). Yours is a different error, but an error nonetheless.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #47 on:** October 25, 2013, 07:28:28 AM »

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"There is not one dogmatic element in the Mystici Corporis neglected or overlooked in the standard literature of school theology since the Middle Ages. Obviously not every author taught every point. Again, there were various individual writers and teachers who presented elements of the Mystical Body doctrine imperfectly and incompletely. The charge however is leveled at school theology as such, and that charge cannot be sustained. Fenton

Bowler and Stubborn have you read all the standard literature of school theology composed since the Middle Ages in its original language and understood it as Father Fenton has? No? But you are right on the subject and he is wrong? Hmm.

bowler · « **Reply #48 on:** October 25, 2013, 08:38:46 AM »

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"There is not one dogmatic element in the Mystici Corporis neglected or overlooked in the standard literature of school theology since the Middle Ages. Obviously not every author taught every point. Again, there were various individual writers and teachers who presented elements of the Mystical Body doctrine imperfectly and incompletely. The charge however is leveled at school theology as such, and that charge cannot be sustained. Fenton

Bowler and Stubborn have you read all the standard literature of school theology composed since the Middle Ages in its original language and understood it as Father Fenton has? No? But you are right on the subject and he is wrong? Hmm.

This thread is about the similarity between St. Augustine and St. Thomas and how they are both miles away from the teaching of the school of Salamanca. What does your comment have to do with anything I wrote? Fr. Fenton believed as St. Thomas.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #49 on:** October 25, 2013, 08:45:28 AM »

First of all I am not sure Augustine disagreed with Saint Thomas. Secondly if he appeared to disagree it is because the understand of the doctrine had not been clarified. What I am posting shows the process on how it was clarified:

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"Still, it is one thing to say that the older school theologians did not neglect the theology of the Mystical Body and quite another to deny that the Mystici Corporis and the various competent theological treatises on this same subject in our own time represent a definite progress in theological science. Modern theologians such as Mura, Tromp and Gruden have advanced the work of sacred theology considerably by writing their treatises on the Mystical Body. They have performed a work which previous theologians had left undone, not because the older writers failed to consider the teaching, but simply and solely because the science was not far enough advanced in previous times for the sort of work these recent theologians have accomplished. Fenton

Do you see any error in the above quote?