Summa, Article 1, Part III, Q. 68:
   "I answer that, the sacrament of Baptism may be wanting to someone in two ways. First, both in reality and in desire; as is the case with those who neither are baptized, nor wished to be baptized: which clearly indicates contempt of the sacrament, in regard to those who have the use of the free will. Consequently those to whom Baptism is wanting thus, cannot obtain salvation: since neither sacramentally nor mentally are they incorporated in Christ, through Whom alone can salvation be obtained.
   "Secondly, the sacrament of Baptism may be wanting to anyone in reality but not in desire: for instance, when a man wishes to be baptized, but by some ill-chance he is forestalled by death before receiving Baptism. And such a man can obtain salvation without being actually baptized, on account of his desire for Baptism, which desire is the outcome of faith that worketh by charity, whereby God, Whose power is not yet tied to visible sacraments, sanctifies man inwardly. Hence Ambrose says of Valentinian, who died while yet a catechumen: 'I lost him whom I was to regenerate: but he did not lose the graces he prayed for.' "

St. Thomas says " God would either reveal to him through internal inspiration what had to be believed, or would send some preacher of the faith to him

They "are bound to explicit faith in the mysteries of Christ chiefly as regards those which are observed throughout the Church, and publicly proclaimed, such as the articles which refer to the Incarnation",

all were bound to explicit faith in the mystery of the Trinity

St. Thomas Aquinas

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Summa, Article 1, Part III, Q. 68:
   "I answer that, the sacrament of Baptism may be wanting to someone in two ways. First, both in reality and in desire; as is the case with those who neither are baptized, nor wished to be baptized: which clearly indicates contempt of the sacrament, in regard to those who have the use of the free will. Consequently those to whom Baptism is wanting thus, cannot obtain salvation: since neither sacramentally nor mentally are they incorporated in Christ, through Whom alone can salvation be obtained.
   "Secondly, the sacrament of Baptism may be wanting to anyone in reality but not in desire: for instance, when a man wishes to be baptized, but by some ill-chance he is forestalled by death before receiving Baptism. And such a man can obtain salvation without being actually baptized, on account of his desire for Baptism, which desire is the outcome of faith that worketh by charity, whereby God, Whose power is not yet tied to visible sacraments, sanctifies man inwardly. Hence Ambrose says of Valentinian, who died while yet a catechumen: 'I lost him whom I was to regenerate: but he did not lose the graces he prayed for.' "

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On the subject of baptism of desire, the differences between  St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas is actually a very small difference versus the difference between St. Thomas and those that follow the School of Salamanca teachings (What all the BODers on CI believe, though they don't even know where it came from).

You really need to stop assuming that your opponents (those who obey the decisions of the Church) are ignorant of the origins of their position.  It doesn't help you in the slightest to make snide comments, either.  In fact, I would say that it is an objective scandal, because it seems indicative of an arrogant and quarrelsome disposition that would go hand-in-hand with your refusal to submit to the Holy Office.

Quote from: School of Salamanca

An unbaptized person can be saved by his belief that God is, and is a rewarder".

Even if one were to generously grant that the Church's teaching on the implicit desire for baptism were first formulated by the School of Salamanca (which theologian ?), what would that prove ?  That it isn't true ?  

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St. Thomas Aquinas

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Summa, Article 1, Part III, Q. 68:
   "I answer that, the sacrament of Baptism may be wanting to someone in two ways. First, both in reality and in desire; as is the case with those who neither are baptized, nor wished to be baptized: which clearly indicates contempt of the sacrament, in regard to those who have the use of the free will. Consequently those to whom Baptism is wanting thus, cannot obtain salvation: since neither sacramentally nor mentally are they incorporated in Christ, through Whom alone can salvation be obtained.
   "Secondly, the sacrament of Baptism may be wanting to anyone in reality but not in desire: for instance, when a man wishes to be baptized, but by some ill-chance he is forestalled by death before receiving Baptism. And such a man can obtain salvation without being actually baptized, on account of his desire for Baptism, which desire is the outcome of faith that worketh by charity, whereby God, Whose power is not yet tied to visible sacraments, sanctifies man inwardly. Hence Ambrose says of Valentinian, who died while yet a catechumen: 'I lost him whom I was to regenerate: but he did not lose the graces he prayed for.' "

Is this in any way different than the quotes that I posted?

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You are sticking with what little you know, ad-hominem and irrelevent distractions.

I have already posted substantive comments on this topic.  My words stand on their own merits and do not need to be defended by me here.  I am informing you of the nature of your way of conducting yourself during this dispute with your best interest at heart and am making relevant comments.  If you do not see any value in my comments so far, it seems to me that that is your own problem.

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If you have something of substance to contribute bring it forward and quit wasting my time. Where's the quote from St. Alphonsus Ligouri saying that one is not required to believe in the Trinity and the Incarnation?

It's not necessary.  Saint Alphonsus teaches that Baptism of desire can be availed by an implicit desire for it.  The relevant passage was cited twice in the other thread.

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The fact remains that your teaching is novel and opposed to ALL the Fathers, Saints, Doctors, the Athanasian Creed. (and the Council of Trent, the Catechism of Trent, and all of the dogmas on EENS and baptism). THAT is the elephant in the room!

No, the elephant in the room is that you and your fellows believe that conclusions resulting from the organic, logically necessary, and officially approved development of the Church's principles of moral theology and metaphysics cannot be the basis for authoritative teaching.  Apparently, for you to be content with accepting the decisions of the Holy Office, there needs to be an explicit formulation of the doctrine in the Scriptures, the Church Fathers, or in some other place.  Papal approval and the consensus of theologians is simply not good enough.  On this point, you are like those who stubbornly reject Transubstantiation, the Immaculate Conception, Christ's human nature, and the Assumption, since you apparently do not believe in the Church's ability -- endowed in it by the Holy Ghost -- to develop the explicit formulation of her own Faith according to human reason, divine guidance, and the effect of the infused theological virtues.  The only difference is that this particular teaching has not been explicitly defined in all of its specifics by the Church in an extraordinary manner, unlike the others I mentioned.  You can see, then, why the Holy Office's letter regarding St. Benedict Center would end with such a grave warning.

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No amount of ad-hominem attacks on me or other irrelevent distraction is going to hide the elephant.

I made no ad hominem attacks.  You are defining your position as the victorious one, however, so it is incredibly difficult to discuss this matter with you and it will most likely not be fruitful.  I posted several long posts in the other thread but I will not repeat their content here.  

Like everything you write, you just said nothing having to do with the subject.

Where's the quote from St. Alphonsus Ligouri saying that one is not required to believe in the Trinity and the Incarnation? THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF DISPUTE!!!!!!!