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Saints Bernard, Augustine, Ambrose Against the Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2009, 03:22:36 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Martyr
You overstate your case.  Show me one pope who taught baptism of desire in his formal capacity, the only person you can propose is Pius XII, but this is a fallacy, since he was heretical on this point AND OTHERS.


Show me one Pope that declared the doctrine to be erroneous, let alone "heretical."  Why would a Pope need to teach the doctrine in his "formal capacity" whatever that means?  Are we to assume that short of defining doctrines, no Popes believed anything?  Are we to assume that all Popes have been utterly negligent in allowing this doctrine to be infused into every possible organ of tradition?  That Pope Pius X's very own catechism, which was drawn from his catachetical lectures as a bishop, taught flagrant heresy?  A heresy so obvious that every dogmatic theology missed it?  Are you implying that the Church had abandoned the true Gospel for centuries, by obscuring the pure truth of God's word?  See where this is going?  You've adopted the stance of the early protestant rebels.  You've adopted numerous implicit positions which no catholic can hold and call himself a catholic.  Just be honest with yourself and everyone else: YOU REJECT THE CATHOLIC SYSTEM.  

Saints Bernard, Augustine, Ambrose Against the Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2009, 03:26:34 PM »
BTW, you've already conceded the entire argument for the doctrine by admitting that God can and does work outside of the Sacraments of the living and the dead, under certain circuмstances.  


Saints Bernard, Augustine, Ambrose Against the Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 03:48:02 PM »

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Saints Bernard, Augustine, Ambrose Against the Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2009, 10:45:35 PM »
No, Sweden, a pope cannot teach heresy in his fallible docuмents?  Why would you believe that unless you follwo the Dimonds?  So according to your position, as long as the pope does not intend to bind the faithful to his teachings, he can be a heretic!

Why was John XXIII an antipope then?  Answer me that one right now.

Saints Bernard, Augustine, Ambrose Against the Feeneyite Heresy
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2009, 02:23:10 AM »