Author Topic: Saints and Church Fathers on baptism of desire (Read 6572 times)

CMMM · « **Reply #60 on:** September 17, 2009, 08:49:12 AM »

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Interestingly enough, it seems that one Léon Bloy at one point denounced Benedict XV.

Who is Bloy?
what authority does he have?

and...so.....one person doeth not a case make

I was about to ask that..

Belloc · « **Reply #61 on:** September 17, 2009, 08:50:17 AM »

Quote from: C.M.M.M

Quote from: Belloc
Quote from: Catholic Martyr
Interestingly enough, it seems that one Léon Bloy at one point denounced Benedict XV.

Who is Bloy?
what authority does he have?

and...so.....one person doeth not a case make

I was about to ask that..

Great minds... :scratchchin:

CM · « **Reply #62 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:28:05 PM »

I do not subject myself to heretics, and I have never found a priest who is not a heretic.

Let me ask you something - do you believe that I should be less 'picky' about my clergy?

Do you think I have the right to question clergy on their beliefs, or that I do not have the right?

A simple yes or no will suffice, followed by an explanation of why or why not.

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Quote from: Catholic Martyr
Pius XI (11) was subject publicly to Benedict XV, who was a public heretic. He never abjured. He was publicly schismatic.

Proof? ......none, hence calumny

That's really funny, I don't seem to recall having enough time to provide any proof during the period between your question and when you concluded that I had no proof. I know, I know you gave me a whole six keyboard strokes (seven if you count the space bar), but I am just not that quick.

What proof do you want? That Benedict XV was publicly heretical? That Pius XI recognized him as a valid Catholic pope? Both can be pretty easily shown.

CM · « **Reply #63 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:38:03 PM »

Benedict XV was heretical in his words
And helped heresy to propagate, while helping to suppress the cause orthodoxy

Pius XI recognized him as a pope.

Quote from: Antipope Pius XI, in Rerum Ecclesiae,

As they were recommended very specially to the bishops by Our Predecessor of happy memory, Benedict XV, in the apostolic letter referred to above...

And he never once stated publicly that he had been a heretic.

Finally, Bloy was a Catholic and writer in France around the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century.