Author Topic: Saints and Church Fathers on baptism of desire (Read 17300 times)

CM · « **Reply #55 on:** August 20, 2009, 12:40:51 AM »

My response is simple.

Pope Eugene IV approved the decree. Pope Pius IX (9) stated that only INVINCIBLE ignorance excuses one from the guilt of labouring in ignorance of the true religion (such as being in subjection to a heretical antipope). And the Church has always required abjuration of heresy or schism from converts to the Faith, when they were either publicly heretical or publicly schismatic.

In light of all these things:

Pius XI (11) was subject publicly to Benedict XV, who was a public heretic. He never abjured. He was publicly schismatic.

The fact that there was no uproar recorded proves nothing, other than that you haven't found evidence of it yet.

Interestingly enough, it seems that one Léon Bloy at one point denounced Benedict XV.

CM · « **Reply #56 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:04:41 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Would you have the nerve to say such an absurd thing to St Alphonsus, for example, if he were standing before you?

I believe I would have to, especially if here were my priest.

Belloc · « **Reply #57 on:** September 17, 2009, 08:14:43 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Pius XI (11) was subject publicly to Benedict XV, who was a public heretic. He never abjured. He was publicly schismatic.

Proof? ......none, hence calumny

Belloc · « **Reply #58 on:** September 17, 2009, 08:15:29 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Interestingly enough, it seems that one Léon Bloy at one point denounced Benedict XV.

Who is Bloy?
what authority does he have?

and...so.....one person doeth not a case make

Belloc · « **Reply #59 on:** September 17, 2009, 08:16:17 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Quote from: gladius_veritatis
Would you have the nerve to say such an absurd thing to St Alphonsus, for example, if he were standing before you?

I believe I would have to, especially if here were my priest.

Who is your priest, by the way? Bishop?