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Offline TKGS

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Saint Benedict Center
« on: January 18, 2019, 08:28:19 PM »
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  • Interesting news out of New Hampshire--courtesy of the U.K. Catholic Herald because the U.S. press seldom discusses such issues:

    https://catholicherald.co.uk/magazine/why-is-the-vatican-taking-action-against-the-slaves-of-the-immaculate-heart-of-mary/?platform=hootsuite

    Looks like the Vatican won't accept Feeneyites in their ranks.

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #1 on: January 18, 2019, 09:14:16 PM »
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  • If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #2 on: January 18, 2019, 09:36:15 PM »
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  • Looks like the Vatican won't accept Feeneyites in their ranks.

    Sodomites accepted in their ranks, but not "Fenneyites".

    Divorced and remarried receiving the Catholic Sacraments, but not "Feeneyites".

    Such is the state of affairs in 2019   ::)
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #3 on: January 18, 2019, 09:36:26 PM »
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  • Nice to see that the Saint Benedict Center has confirmed the news story from the U.S. Catholic Herald.

    It's nice to see that not every mainstream news outlet dedicated to fake news.

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #4 on: January 18, 2019, 09:53:15 PM »
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  • Nice to see that the Saint Benedict Center has confirmed the news story from the U.S. Catholic Herald.

    It's nice to see that not every mainstream news outlet dedicated to fake news.

    Yes, it is true.

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    On January 7 this year, the Diocese of Manchester imposed stringent penalties that may very well spell the end for the Saint Benedict Center. As of that day, said the diocese, “under no circumstances may Catholics receive the sacraments of the Church at the Saint Benedict Center or any of its locations, nor should they participate in any activity provided by this group or school”. Furthermore, as of that date, “Catholic priests are under strict prohibition from celebrating the Sacraments of the Church there”.

    It is 1949 all over again!
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #5 on: January 19, 2019, 03:43:42 AM »
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  • Yes. And all this preceeding the SSPX Prelature, what a coincidence.  ::)
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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #6 on: January 19, 2019, 04:58:02 AM »
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  • Saint Benedict Center Official Press Statements
    From the link:

    "It is with sorrow that we must inform our many friends and supporters, and all the faithful Catholics who have attended the Traditional Latin Mass at Saint Benedict Center, that the Diocese of Manchester has now refused us the services of a priest, and has prohibited the administration of the sacraments at the Center.

    We were surprised and disappointed by this decision. We are working to resolve this impasse, and will keep you informed about our progress."


    Hard to believe they were surprised, but that being the case, it's no wonder they're disappointed. Sad to see they are directing more of their efforts toward going back for more. They are in the running for poster child of "Some people will never learn."

    Attempting to "dialogue" about the doctrine of exclusive salvation with conciliar authorities? Will they never learn that there is nothing to "dialogue" about with those conciliarists who only have one infallible doctrine, the one which infallibly rejects the EENS doctrine as heresy?  What's wrong with them?



    The whole episode reminds me of this snip from a sermon Fr. Wathen gave a few days after +ABL's excommunication. In regards to who the SBC is dealing with, nothing has changed:


    ..."the negotiations the archbishop and the officials in the Vatican had to do with the official Church giving him permission to perform these ordinations, and he eventually learned that the only reason that they were negotiating with him at all, was in order that they could get control through a commission, which they would establish to oversee his efforts and the efforts of his priests, to get control so that in due time they could completely nullify the whole enterprise.

    The archbishop's intentions are well known to the whole world, they are to preservation of the faith, and we find that these who have charge of the Church had, and have, no other intention in this regard than to destroy the faith. That is their intention as I say, and that is an easily delineated and recognizable purpose that they have.

    The reason why I make the point here, is simply that you need to be reminded of the powers that be. Just because they wear sacerdotal vestments and because they wear pectoral crosses, and because they seem to be Catholic, is no indication whatsoever of what they are. When you see them before the television cameras and you hear them making their pontifical statements, think of ravening wolves, think of men with forked tongues, think of men who are trained to deceive, who have cultivated the talent.

    One of the priests who was interviewed concerning the excommunication of the archbishop said; "Well, it's an unfortunate thing but it is better to perform an amputation than that there be gangrene throughout the body."

    I don't know how that strikes you but it strikes me as meaning this: Better to expel the archbishop and this smaller group of people from the Church, than to allow the influence that he might spread to circulate through the whole body of the Church, in other words, the true faith to him, is poison, they are in the position of power, but they regard the true faith as a contamination, as a dangerous infection..."



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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #7 on: January 19, 2019, 06:48:05 AM »
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  • Although I do not agree with the Feenyite positions on Baptism of Desire, I have not found any convincing evidence that their positions constitute heresy. There are countless blatantly heretical groups that are allowed to operate within the structures of the Conciliar Church and almost nothing is ever done about them. This action against the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary reeks of a traditionalist witch-hunt and should remind everyone of how dangerous it is to be dependent on the Conciliar Church for the Sacraments. 
    “Sed et si ambulavero in valle mortis non timebo malum quoniam tu mecum es virga tua et baculus tuus ipsa consolabuntur me” - Psalmi 22:4


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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #8 on: January 19, 2019, 07:18:05 AM »
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  • From the link:

    "It is with sorrow that we must inform our many friends and supporters, and all the faithful Catholics who have attended the Traditional Latin Mass at Saint Benedict Center, that the Diocese of Manchester has now refused us the services of a priest, and has prohibited the administration of the sacraments at the Center.

    We were surprised and disappointed by this decision. We are working to resolve this impasse, and will keep you informed about our progress."


    Hard to believe they were surprised, but that being the case, it's no wonder they're disappointed. Sad to see they are directing more of their efforts toward going back for more. They are in the running for poster child of "Some people will never learn."

    Attempting to "dialogue" about the doctrine of exclusive salvation with conciliar authorities? Will they never learn that there is nothing to "dialogue" about with those conciliarists who only have one infallible doctrine, the one which infallibly rejects the EENS doctrine as heresy?  What's wrong with them?

    How is this different than what the SSPX has been doing for decades now?
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #9 on: January 19, 2019, 07:34:02 AM »
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  • How is this different than what the SSPX has been doing for decades now?
    The SSPX has always diluted the dogma EENS, other than that, no difference.
    For a small gain they travel far; for eternal life many will scarcely lift a foot from the ground. - Thomas A Kempis

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #10 on: January 19, 2019, 09:11:11 AM »
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  • There’s a big difference in that the SBC doesn’t have a seminary or any priests.  They do have a school (which I doubt will stop) but they were relying on the local bishop for an indult priest.  So now, they are priestless.  

    They made a deal with the local bishop a few years ago so now they have to depend on Rome for the TLM.  Look what that’s gotten them...


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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #11 on: January 19, 2019, 09:22:56 AM »
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  • There’s a big difference in that the SBC doesn’t have a seminary or any priests.  They do have a school (which I doubt will stop) but they were relying on the local bishop for an indult priest.  So now, they are priestless.  

    They made a deal with the local bishop a few years ago so now they have to depend on Rome for the TLM.  Look what that’s gotten them...
    I was referring to their dialoguing with the "Conciliar" church.  It's interesting that you mention the need for an "indult" priest because, except for EENS, they seem to act much like the Conciliar indult groups.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #12 on: January 19, 2019, 01:11:30 PM »
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  • They ARE a conciliar indult group, as of 4-5 yrs ago, when they made a deal with the local bishop.  Before that, they’ve always been soft on the new mass.  

    Just goes to show, if one doesn’t reject the new mass 100%, then logically, there’s no reason to be outside of new-rome.  

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #13 on: January 19, 2019, 11:44:18 PM »
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  • Yes. And all this preceeding the SSPX Prelature, what a coincidence.  ::)
    Actually the SSPX has not accepted the Vatican's offer of an arrangement of a prelature.

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    Re: Saint Benedict Center
    « Reply #14 on: January 19, 2019, 11:47:44 PM »
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  • Immediately prior to his death Fr Feeney did have a reconciliation with the Catholic Church.

     

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