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Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
« on: October 03, 2019, 09:07:28 PM »
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  • [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. [9] As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him


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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #1 on: October 03, 2019, 10:33:21 PM »
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  • So, was this another Dimond video production?

    BTW, the Dimond Bro's are "Ringers". 
    In other words, like Michael A. Hoffman, they're just a front for Jєω ghostwriters who have been attacking the traditional Catholic movement for years.


    Concerning Baptism, if the SSPX, the Dimonds or anyone else believes and promotes the following...  they are simply heretics.



    On page 74 of +ABL's book "Open Letter to Confused Catholics"., it reads: 

    "The doctrine of the Church also recognizes implicit baptism of desire. This consists in doing the will of God. God knows all men and He knows amongst Protestants, Muslim, Buddhists and in the whole of humanity there are men of good will. They receive the grace of baptism without knowing it, but in an effective way. In this they become part of the Church".



    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #2 on: October 04, 2019, 04:42:51 AM »
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  • I'm confused.  You'll not find anywhere in the world a more violent opposition to Baptism of Desire than from the Dimonds.  This video was not put out by the Dimonds; it's an attack against them.

    This video is absolutely repugnant, and the guy who posted it is undoubtedly a heretic on this matter.  This might be a new account created by "Lover of Truth" (aka Lover of Heresy).

    His Avatar of +Thuc suggests that it's yet another CMRI heretic.  You won't find more contempt for the EENS dogma anywhere else than in the CMRI.  These guys make it their crusade, their mission in life, to attack and undermine EENS.  In fact, the CMRI twice published a heretical article blasphemously entitled "The Salvation of those outside the Church" ... directly contradicting Catholic dogma in the very title.

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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #3 on: October 04, 2019, 05:14:31 AM »
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  •  In fact, the CMRI twice published a heretical article blasphemously entitled "The Salvation of those outside the Church" ... directly contradicting Catholic dogma in the very title.

    Lad, I have never heard of this. Can you give me a link to this article?
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    « Reply #4 on: October 04, 2019, 08:59:26 AM »
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  • Lad, I have never heard of this. Can you give me a link to this article?

    I don't know that it was ever published online.  It was in their "Quarterly Magazine".  I recall reading it once, so it must have been somewhere, but the Dimonds write about it here.

    https://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/cmri-not-traditional/


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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #5 on: October 04, 2019, 11:27:03 AM »
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  • Lad, I have never heard of this. Can you give me a link to this article?
    Seems it's pretty much vanished from the internet but here's this.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #6 on: October 04, 2019, 07:27:31 PM »
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  • This video is absolutely repugnant, and the guy who posted it is undoubtedly a heretic on this matter.  This might be a new account created by "Lover of Truth" (aka Lover of Heresy).


    Oh, I thought is was Sean Johnson, since he has so many other aliases on this forum ?  :jester:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #7 on: October 05, 2019, 07:05:44 AM »
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  • You Dimond fans just HATE to hear what you really sound like! 

    It must be frustrating to not have any catechism that you can use... or not to be able to look something up in canon law, any theologian, any Saint, Father or Doctor of the Church, the Catholic Encyclopedia...etc., without that little Dimond :really-mad2:devil on your shoulder telling you to QUESTION AUTHORITY and put it back!! 

    Typical PROTESTANTISM!

    Feeneyism is the modern John Law Bubble! And the Dimonds are spreading around enough paper to try to keep it afloat!!

    Zero logic and lots of zeal! 

    And not Catholic! 

    How dare those impostors and wannabe theologians spread their illiterate garbage and conscious falsehood amongst Catholics who want to learn their faith! 

    May God forgive the Dimonds and Rev. Crawford...
    [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. [9] As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him


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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #8 on: October 05, 2019, 07:12:37 AM »
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  • So, was this another Dimond video production?

    BTW, the Dimond Bro's are "Ringers".  
    In other words, like Michael A. Hoffman, they're just a front for Jєω ghostwriters who have been attacking the traditional Catholic movement for years.


    Concerning Baptism, if the SSPX, the Dimonds or anyone else believes and promotes the following...  they are simply heretics.



    On page 74 of +ABL's book "Open Letter to Confused Catholics"., it reads:

    "The doctrine of the Church also recognizes implicit baptism of desire. This consists in doing the will of God. God knows all men and He knows amongst Protestants, Muslim, Buddhists and in the whole of humanity there are men of good will. They receive the grace of baptism without knowing it, but in an effective way. In this they become part of the Church".


    How are you so certain the Dimonds are crypto-Jєωs when you know so little about them that you thought they were pro-BOD? Half their vids are about how BOD is heresy. 

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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #9 on: October 05, 2019, 09:01:38 AM »
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  • You Dimond fans just HATE to hear what you really sound like!

    It must be frustrating to not have any catechism that you can use... or not to be able to look something up in canon law, any theologian, any Saint, Father or Doctor of the Church, the Catholic Encyclopedia...etc., without that little Dimond :really-mad2:devil on your shoulder telling you to QUESTION AUTHORITY and put it back!!

    Typical PROTESTANTISM!

    Feeneyism is the modern John Law Bubble! And the Dimonds are spreading around enough paper to try to keep it afloat!!

    Zero logic and lots of zeal!

    And not Catholic!

    How dare those impostors and wannabe theologians spread their illiterate garbage and conscious falsehood amongst Catholics who want to learn their faith!

    May God forgive the Dimonds and Rev. Crawford...
    If I found a believer in baptism of desire that limited it to what a Saint or a Doctor of the Church did, like St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus Ligouri, we could spend some time conversing about it, the why of why I do not believe in any BOD or BOB, there would be no hostility between us. However,  99% of BODers today reject St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus Ligouri by their real belief that Mohamedans, Hindus, Buddhists, Jєωs..... people in all "religions" can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards and THAT is why they despise us, because we shine a light on their gaping hole, that they are all fakes pretending to teach something that no Father, Saint, or  Doctor of the Church ever taught. The truth is that they reject the saints  and all the dogmas on EENS, they are just seekers of teachers according to their own desires.

    The entire quote written above is just empty words.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #10 on: October 05, 2019, 10:48:03 AM »
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  • Well said, Lat Tradhican.  There was on member here on CI, Arvinger, who believed in BoD, in the strict Thomistic sense, but he was actually in our corner during every discussion of EENS.  Whether or not there's a BoD for those with explicit belief in the Holy Trinity and Incarnation I consider an academic dispute.  But 99.9% of BoDers care nothing about the relatively rare case of a catehumen-like person who dies without Baptism; these reveal that the entire reason for their crusade is to leverage BoD as a means for undermining Catholic EENS dogma and Catholic ecclesiology.  In doing so, they have absolutely no justification for rejecting Vatican II, since all the Vatican II errors derive from the new ecclesiology and soteriology that rejects EENS.


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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #11 on: October 05, 2019, 11:38:09 AM »
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  • How are you so certain the Dimonds are crypto-Jєωs when you know so little about them that you thought they were pro-BOD? Half their vids are about how BOD is heresy.


    The Jєω "Ringer" industry to infiltrate and confuse Catholics is well established.  

    The credentials of founder of the Most Holy Family Monastery, Joseph Natale are quite suspect.
    But he was plausibly the foundation for the ghostwriter business,   The real operation seems to have kicked-off 1995, when Bro. Natale suddenly died and the Dimonds took his assets, which exceeded 1,170,000 in cash, not to mention the property.

    From that point on, the Dimonds have cranked-out hundreds of videos... well beyond their personal talents and resources.
    Who's helping them write?  The Dimond's barely have high school diplomas.   A closer look at their credentials is below.

    If the Dimonds are attacking BOD, it is only because they want to seek credibility by being on the side of the truth, which is what 90% of their "cut & paste", fake apostolate is about.


    Who is Frederick "Michael" Dimond?

    All the relevant information concerning the most important person today in the Most Holy Family Monastery (Frederick), its Superior, is not easily found. The one paragraph of information that exists on the subject is contained on a webpage whose link is conveniently hidden in plain sight about halfway down the long list of haphazard links on the home page under "Our Monastery".

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    "Raised in a family with no religion, Bro. Michael Dimond converted to Catholicism at the age of 15. Brother Michael Dimond entered Most Holy Family Monastery in 1992 at the age of 19, a short time after graduating from high school. Brother Michael Dimond’s father graduated from Princeton University in New Jersey and his mother graduated from Stanford University in California. Brother Michael Dimond was elected superior of Most Holy Family Monastery in late 1995. Bro. Dimond took his final vows before a validly ordained priest".

    So to start with let’s take a closer look at that paragraph above:

    Raised in a family with no religion:

    Is this stating that his mother, Roberta G. Ralston (born March 25th 1940 in Kern, California) and his father, Frederick H. Dimond (born December 22nd 1940), did not practice their religion or that they were atheist? It is hard to imagine that neither parent was raised in a family where no religion was practiced. If his parents were not atheist then is Frederick ashamed of the religion his parents worshiped? It’s a question worth contemplating.

    Bro. Michael Dimond converted to Catholicism at the age of 15:

    It would be interesting to know if Frederick initially converted to the Roman Catholic (Vatican II) Church or to a traditional Catholic group. It goes without saying that it would be extremely beneficial to understand the reason why he converted to Catholicism. Who and/or what influenced his decision?

    Brother Michael Dimond entered Most Holy Family Monastery in 1992 at the age of 19, a short time after graduating from high school

    If Frederick joined the MHFM in 1992 and he was 19 then we can logically conclude that he was born in 1973. We can also derive from the sentence that he has a High School diploma but did not seek any higher level of formal education.

    Brother Michael Dimond’s father graduated from Princeton University in New Jersey and his mother graduated from Stanford University in California:

    Hmmm … I wonder what Frederick’s father and mother studied at university? What were their majors / minors? What type of degree was obtained upon graduation? Knowing that would give some insight as to the quality and type of “home-life” the Dimond brothers had while growing up. It does seem to be important for the MHFM to state that Fred’s parents had university degrees at outstanding and expensive institutions. Is this inferring that the Dimond brothers came from a wealthy upper-class family or that both parents received scholarships?
    Now is where it really gets interesting.

    Brother Michael Dimond was elected superior of Most Holy Family Monastery in late 1995
    Absolutely amazing, No! It seems that Frederick completed all the rigors associated with a Saint Benedictine apprenticeship required to become a monk plus, by osmosis, gained all the “hands on” experience of being a leader to become a valid Superior in only 3 years. What? How can that possibly be? In general, it takes 4+ years to become a “monk” in any other St Benedictine Monastery.

    What types of monks are living / working at the Most Holy Family Monastery in Fillmore, NY? Though the website doesn’t give that precise information one would assume that they must be Cenobites, that is, the monastic, who live under a rule and an Abbot (Superior). There are also a number of Oblates that diligently work with the monks. Oblates are individuals (laypersons) normally living in general society, who, while not professed monks or nuns, have individually affiliated themselves with a monastic community. They make a formal, private promise (annually renewable or for life, depending on the monastery with which they are affiliated) to follow the Rule of the Order of Saint Benedict in their private life as closely as their individual circuмstances and prior commitments permit.

    What is the role of an Abbot (Superior)? What kind of man the Abbot ought to be?

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    “The Abbot who is worthy to be over a monastery, ought always to be mindful of what he is called, and make his works square with his name of Superior. For he is believed to hold the place of Christ in the monastery, when he is called by his name, according to the saying of the Apostle: "You have received the spirit of adoption of sons, whereby we cry Abba (Father)" (Rom 8:15). Therefore, the Abbot should never teach, prescribe, or command (which God forbid) anything contrary to the laws of the Lord; but his commands and teaching should be instilled like a leaven of divine justice into the minds of his disciples.”
     - The Holy Rule of St. Benedict
    In order to be validly elected to the office of Abbot (Superior) what is required?

    If we look at the Constitutions and the Directory of the American-Cassinese Congregation of Benedictine Monasteries on page 14 you will find the answer.
    Please note that it's at the St Vincent Archabbey that “Fred” claims Joseph Natale was trained at and received permission to “start his own Benedictine Community”. The St Vincent Archabbey is also the American-Cassinese Congregation.

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    In order to be validly elected to the office of abbot it is required that a monk be:
    • at least thirty years of age; (Frederick was 22 years old)
    • solemnly professed for at least seven years (CIC 623); (Frederick was a lay brother not an O.S.B.. And even if he had been allowed to profess he would have only been in the MHFM for 3 years)
    • an ordained priest; (Frederick was never ordained a priest)
    • a member of the Congregation. (no affiliation whatsoever with the Congregation but that’s understandable as Frederick is a sedevacantist or at least turned that way after stealing Richard Ibrayni’s work on the subject)
    So as you can see from the above … Frederick “Michael” Dimond did NOT meet the "traditional" requirements to become a validly recognized Benedictine Superior. So one can assume that Frederick's MHFM simply created their own set of "Novus Ordo" rules (for lack of a better description) to support their specific needs.

    Who elected Frederick “Michael” Dimond Superior and on what date? Joseph Natale, the founder of the MHFM, died on November 11, 1995. At the time of his death there is no official indication how many people residing at the MHFM had the right to vote / to elect a new Superior. One source informed me me that there wasn’t any election actually held at all. Another source tells me that there was only 2 people at the MHFM because John Vennari had left to go and work with Father Nicholas Gruner. That left Frederick (who wasn’t yet entitled to be called O.S.B. as he was still a layperson) and Thomas Wedekind O.S.B. (a mentally impaired individual who worked with Joseph Natale). There is no information to be found on the site that explains how and who elected Frederick. At any rate … Frederick became, by hook or crook, “Superior” and Thomas was soon after “ordered out” of the MHFM.
    In short … it is not clear at all how Frederick became Superior. The question is relevant and needs following up on.

    Bro. Dimond took his final vows before a validly ordained priest.

    Wait a minute … what vows? If it’s the vows associated with being “professed” to become a monk then the election that was held making "Fred" the MHFM's Superior is invalid isn't it? Referring back to the information I placed above you can see that a candidate must be professed for a minimum of 7 years before being eligible to be considered in an election for the role of Superior. “Fred” did NOT meet any of the requirements for becoming a candidate. So knowing that … what type of validly ordained priest would even listen to the “final vows” of a charlatan who had fraudulently presented himself as Superior? Who was this "validly ordained priest" that witnessed "Fred's" final vows? Why isn't his name mentioned along with his ecclesiastical credentials to give credence to “Fred’s” claim? You would think that the MHFM would be proud to present to their web visitors the authoritative “facts” surrounding the election in order to dispel any suspicion of possible fraud. This is too important to be taken at face value (i.e. Fred’s word). I believe I have provided enough evidence to speculate fraud and demand an accounting.

    Father John Courtney Murray once said that “Anyone who really believes in God must set God, and the truth of God, above all other considerations". In short God will demand an accounting and in this case we have the right to demand one as well. Is "Fred" perpetuating a fraud against the public? You have the right to know.

    Who is Robert "Peter" Dimond?

    Outside of the fact that it is public information that Robert V. Dimond was born on August 9th 1978 in Philadelphia, PA; there is no other information found on the MHFM website concerning him at all except for the texts he has taken credit for writing.
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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #12 on: October 05, 2019, 04:54:40 PM »
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  • Ladislaus and Tradhican, Pretty sure your quotes above are even more empty than you claim mine were..

    Meaning, you DO NOT ACCEPT the teaching of those referenced Popes and saints and Doctors.. 

    You are just posers who are your own authority and are the BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.

    St. Alphonsus Liguori, Doctor of the Church (18th century)Moral Theology, Book 6, Section II (About Baptism and Confirmation), Chapter 1 (On Baptism), page 310, no. 96: "Baptism of desire is perfect conversion to God by contrition or love of God above all things accompanied by an explicit or IMPLICIT desire for true baptism of water, the place of which it takes as to the remission of guilt, but not as to the impression of the [baptismal] character or as to the removal of all debt of punishment. It is called "of wind" ["flaminis"] because it takes place by the impulse of the Holy Ghost who is called a wind ["flamen"]. Now it is "de fide" that men are also saved by Baptism of desire, by virtue of the Canon Apostolicam, "de presbytero non baptizato" and of the Council of Trent, session 6, Chapter 4 where it is said that no one can be saved 'without the laver of regeneration or the desire for it.'" 

    Moral Theology, Bk. 6, nn. 95-97: "Baptism of blood is the shedding of one's blood, i.e. death, suffered for the faith or for some other Christian virtue. Now this Baptism is comparable to true baptism because, like true Baptism, it remits both guilt and punishment as it were ex opere operato… Hence martyrdom avails also for infants seeing that the Church venerates the Holy Innocents as true martyrs. That is why Suarez rightly teaches that the opposing view is at least temerarious."

    On the Council of Trent, 1846, Pg. 128-129 (Duffy): "Who can deny that the act of perfect love of God, which is sufficient for justification, includes an IMPLICIT desire of Baptism, of Penance, and of the Eucharist. He who wishes the whole wishes the every part of that whole and all the means necessary for its attainment. In order to be justified without baptism, an infidel must love God above all things, and must have an universal will to observe all the divine precepts, among which the first is to receive baptism: and therefore in order to be justified it is necessary for him to have AT LEAST AN IMPLICIT desire of that sacrament."
     

    ·     Pope Pius IX (19th century)Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, 1863: “There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.”

    Singulari Quadam, December 9, 1854: "For, it must be held by faith that outside the Apostolic Roman Church, no one can be saved; that this is the only ark of salvation; that he who shall not have entered therein will perish in the flood; but, ON THE OTHER HAND, it is necessary to hold for certain that they who labor in ignorance of the true religion, if this ignorance is invincible, are not stained by any guilt in this matter in the eyes of God."
     


    Pope St. Pius X

      .  Baptism, Necessity of Baptism and Obligations of the Baptized: 17 Q. Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way? A. The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire
    [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. [9] As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him

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    Re: Reverend Crawford , Feeney, Dimond video
    « Reply #13 on: October 05, 2019, 04:59:12 PM »
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  • St. Thomas Aquinas even admits of a FOURTH BAPTISM

    Whether three kinds of Baptism are fittingly described--viz. Baptism of Water, of Blood, and of the Spirit?
    Consequently, a man may, without Baptism of Water, receive the sacramental effect from Christ's Passion, in so far as he is conformed to Christ by suffering for Him. Hence it is written (Apoc. 7:14): "These are they who are come out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes and have made them white in the blood of the Lamb." In like manner a man receives the effect of Baptism by the power of the Holy Ghost, not only without Baptism of Water, but also without Baptism of Blood: forasmuch as his heart is moved by the Holy Ghost to believe in and love God and to repent of his sins: wherefore this is also called Baptism of Repentance. Of this it is written (Is. 4:4): "If the Lord shall wash away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall wash away the blood of Jerusalem out of the midst thereof, by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning." Thus, therefore, each of these other Baptisms is called Baptism, forasmuch as it takes the place of Baptism. Wherefore Augustine says (De Unico Baptismo Parvulorum iv): "The Blessed Cyprian argues with considerable reason from the thief to whom, though not baptized, it was said: 'Today shalt thou be with Me in Paradise' that suffering can take the place of Baptism. Having weighed this in my mind again and again, I perceive that not only can suffering for the name of Christ supply for what was lacking in Baptism, but even faith and conversion of heart, if perchance on account of the stress of the times the celebration of the mystery of Baptism is not practicable."

     
    [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. [9] As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him

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  • Pharisees cant see it though..
    [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. [9] As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him