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Questions for Raoul76
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 12:34:19 AM »
Why are you calling out a person in public?  I'm a we bit crazy about that

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2011, 12:48:39 AM »
Quote from: TraceG
Why are you calling out a person in public?  I'm a we bit crazy about that


He brought onto himself by saying that NFP and implicit faith were true teachings on the church. I am trying to figure out his perspective.


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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2011, 01:28:03 AM »
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Well, I'd say one of the things that made me change my mind on NFP, was that someone I respect, a priest in France, saw no problems with it, nor did any of the French clergy.


That's a very weak reason.  Lots of people support lots of priests, and priests often of approve of things they shouldn't.  

As for the fact that French priests you know of approve of it - that's another very weak reason, given the national character of France.

I'm not going to say that periodic abstention is wrong or immoral, but it certainly can be done for immoral reasons.  For that reason it seems to me to be a gray area of morality.  The people who condemn it all outright do not have justification for their position, because you cannot prove that paying the marriage debt is wrong, or that there are not grave reasons for mutual abstention.  The very terminology "NFP" is very troubling, as is the idea that young couples who seek to be married should be trained in such "techniques". (I'm not sure trads do that however)

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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2011, 01:35:39 AM »
replace "not" with "never"

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2011, 09:32:56 AM »
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I would highly recommend reading MHFM book "Outside The Church There is Absolutely No Salvation." It addresses all the points you brought up.


I would highly reccommend you burn that book.

And why did they need to change "Outside the Church There is No Salvation" to "Outside The Church There is Absolutely No Salvation"?