Author Topic: Questions for Raoul76 (Read 9630 times)

curiouscatholic23 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 17, 2011, 09:18:25 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

You don't have to get ALL of your answers on Catholicism from sedes.

Why not? I am starting to loose patience with SSPXers. How many times do they have to see and hear the arguments before they realize their position is not catholic and unacceptable?

s2srea · « **Reply #31 on:** December 17, 2011, 09:34:30 PM »

Go see a priest. Any priest- sede, sspx, CMRI- just see one. You need it man.

curiouscatholic23 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 17, 2011, 09:51:01 PM »

Quote from: s2srea

Go see a priest. Any priest- sede, sspx, CMRI- just see one. You need it man.

Why? They all believe in NFP, BOD, & Invincible ignorance.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 17, 2011, 10:09:24 PM »

These young men are being cut down in rows. At this point it's almost like a rite of passage to go through a Feeneyite or semi-Feeneyite phase, but for many it's not a phase.

Serious Catholics tend to be intelligent; intelligent people tend to be susceptible to intellectual pride. It has always been this way, but today, there is no Pope, and the even bigger problem is a lack of interest in the spiritual life, in learning humility, obedience, in overcoming self.

I understand cc23 quite well, I had a problem with SSPX priests because of their junk theology; so I felt superior there. Then CMRI has that kind of neo-con thing going on that made me paranoid about them. While political affiliation has nothing to do with dogma, I came to religion from the conspiracy-theory angle, and I was really thrown off by the idea of people of the faith supporting the likes of George Bush Jr. and Sarah Palin ( still am, to be honest ). I felt like I had no one I could trust.

CC23 needs prayers, first of all. But I will say, and I have heard this from someone else, probably the easiest and quickest way to get over this intellectual pride, is to read books about saints. I say ABOUT saints, not BY saints; books BY saints comes later, when you are already on the road to perfection, then you can crack St. Theresa of Avila or what have you. But when you read books ABOUT saints, it gives you a pattern of behavior, you see how a holy man should speak and behave and think. The next step after that: The consecration to Mary. The next step after that... I don't know yet.

curiouscatholic23 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 17, 2011, 11:00:06 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

These young men are being cut down in rows. At this point it's almost like a rite of passage to go through a Feeneyite or semi-Feeneyite phase, but for many it's not a phase.

Serious Catholics tend to be intelligent; intelligent people tend to be susceptible to intellectual pride. It has always been this way, but today, there is no Pope, and the even bigger problem is a lack of interest in the spiritual life, in learning humility, obedience, in overcoming self.

I understand cc23 quite well, I had a problem with SSPX priests because of their junk theology; so I felt superior there. Then CMRI has that kind of neo-con thing going on that made me paranoid about them. While political affiliation has nothing to do with dogma, I came to religion from the conspiracy-theory angle, and I was really thrown off by the idea of people of the faith supporting the likes of George Bush Jr. and Sarah Palin ( still am, to be honest ). I felt like I had no one I could trust.

CC23 needs prayers, first of all. But I will say, and I have heard this from someone else, probably the easiest and quickest way to get over this intellectual pride, is to read books about saints. I say ABOUT saints, not BY saints; books BY saints comes later, when you are already on the road to perfection, then you can crack St. Theresa of Avila or what have you. But when you read books ABOUT saints, it gives you a pattern of behavior, you see how a holy man should speak and behave and think. The next step after that: The consecration to Mary. The next step after that... I don't know yet.

BOD lead to Invincible Ignorance which lead to Religious Liberty.

If someone says a great thumb worshiper could be saved through invincible ignorance, you are basically saying the great thumb religion is a means of salvation. If it is a means of salvation, why should someone not be allowed to worship it? Why should the government not infringe on his RIGHT to worship the great thumb?