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Offline Mithrandylan

Re: Question for the so-called 'Lover of Truth'
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2017, 08:07:19 AM »
Oh hi GJC.  Nice job self-fulfilling what I said would happen next. 

Any luck finding that third place where people are asleep but not yet judged?  

Double standardizing hypocrites. Failing to acknowledge or address the outright unorthodoxy of a previous argument you made, only to come back and "demand" answers to other questions. Not sure if you're truly that obtuse, or just drunk on your own false zeal. 

I can hear the drumroll prepared for my answer. Greyhounds in the slip, straining at the start.  To paraphrase the bard, 'Cry God for Robert, Fred, and Fr. Feeney!'




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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Question for the so-called 'Lover of Truth'
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2017, 08:24:03 AM »
Quote from: Catholictrue on August 22, 2017, 10:42:41 PM
The reaction of Lover of Heresy to my question is another very clear example of his bad will.  

With regard to Mithandyland, your response, despite containing a number of paragraphs, doesn't answer the question.  It is vapid.  It veers off into other topics, and it contains numerous false statements and false arguments.  Many things could be written to expose it.  However, there is a simple way to demonstrate that neither you nor your methodology is Catholic.  Fr. Bernard Welp of the CMRI stated that he agreed with Fr. Denis Fahey that Jews who reject Jesus Christ can be in the state of grace and saved.  That's the position of the CMRI, etc.  That's what they believe.  So, Mithandyland, is their position heretical?  

You can find the docuмentation for Welp's statement here: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/fr-bernard-welp-cmri/ Below are a few of the relevant quotes.

FR. DENIS FAHEY TAUGHT THE HERESY THAT JEWS WHO REJECT CHRIST CAN BE IN THE STATE OF GRACE
ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE TAUGHT THAT SOULS CAN BE SAVED IN FALSE RELIGIONS
FR. BERNARD WELP OF THE CMRI 'CERTAINLY' AGREES WITH FAHEY

To the question, do you agree with the statements made by Fr. Denis Fahey and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Fr. Bernard Welp of the CMRI responded on Nov. 16, 2016, by saying:
Thank you for providing these excellent sources.  Father Fahey was cosidered and "αnтι-ѕємιтє" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.   
Another theologian that the Feeneyites have to disparage.  When will the Feeneyites realize that condemning all the Catholic authorities of heresy reeks of heresy itself.  
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Question for the so-called 'Lover of Truth'
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2017, 08:27:16 AM »
Quote from: Mithrandylan on August 23, 2017, 08:07:19 AM
Oh hi GJC.  Nice job self-fulfilling what I said would happen next.

Any luck finding that third place where people are asleep but not yet judged?  

Double standardizing hypocrites. Failing to acknowledge or address the outright unorthodoxy of a previous argument you made, only to come back and "demand" answers to other questions. Not sure if you're truly that obtuse, or just drunk on your own false zeal.

I can hear the drumroll prepared for my answer. Greyhounds in the slip, straining at the start.  To paraphrase the bard, 'Cry God for Robert, Fred, and Fr. Feeney!'
Yeah.  It is sad that we have to keep singing out the ABC basics to undo the damage the Feeneyites perpetuate on a Catholic blog.  The world would be better off without them.  But God's permissive will alas.  He'll bring good out of it.
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Offline Lover of Truth

Re: Question for the so-called 'Lover of Truth'
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2017, 10:57:25 AM »
If confronted with the choice of martyrdom before being baptized would you deny Christ so you could get baptized or get martyred and "go to Hell"?
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Offline Meg

Re: Question for the so-called 'Lover of Truth'
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2017, 11:18:24 AM »
Quote from: Catholictrue on August 22, 2017, 10:42:41 PM



ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE TAUGHT THAT SOULS CAN BE SAVED IN FALSE RELIGIONS

The above comment is imprecise. What the Archbishop actually said (which you later did acknowledge in your post) is that..."Souls can be saved in a religion other than the Catholic religion (Protestantism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.) but not by this religion."
I think that the distinction needs to be made. The Archbishop did not mean to say that souls can be saved a by any particular religion other than Catholicism.
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